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| Author: | Neo-the one [ Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Game on, game off. |
Sometimes you're dead on...and sometimes you're dead in the water. As a newbie, I have noticed that there are times when my game is flawless as a multi-million dollar diamond. Then there are times that my game is like a retarted monkey. I find that I freeze up at times. I always remember my shit after I've blown the set. I don't know what to do about this, other than having my notebook handy for my stuff. There are other issues. I get approach anxiety. Sometimes, I look at a set and think 'it's not worth my effort'. I mean, seriously, people! What the fuck is wrong with me? Don't answer that, lol! Last night, I was introduced to a HB7 by a mutual friend. I immediately went C/F. I was also kino-pinging my friend, who is like my sister and knows about my methods. Cracking jokes, making people laugh, picking on our toked big boobed blonde...I would also take paper out of my notebook and crumple it into a ball and throw it at the girls! So I started sarging the 7. She had a boyfriend, so I made a pathetic attempt at a BF destroyer. I would neg and DHV, push-pull, kino-pinging...I felt that I was on! She would undo a button on my shirt, and I would pull a strap on her dress down. I thought it was funny, and she would kino me afterwards. This was going great! Enter the AMOG... 7 and my pivot met the guy, who my pivot knows. Total AFC, so I wasn't worried. He danced with 7, then they came back to the table. I started my observation. He would lean in, while I was leaned back. He had a serious face, while I had a cocky, arrogant grin. Then, right in front of the AMOG, my pivot told her to dance with me...just as I was about to ask her. She said ok. I said "Let me see your hand". She gave it to me, and I put her on my arm, leading to the dance floor. We had a nice dance chatting about music. Later, I pulled out my notebook and drew a line. I handed it to her and told her to use her imagination. She fucking wrote the word "squee" with a heart at the end. Dammit. I should have just told her to write her number down. I could hear it now "I have a BF:, and me saying "So? Write it anyway (C/F grin)". But I didn't. I #closed another girl, who called me wanting me to bounce. So I fucking bounced. I could have done so much better with this set. I got locked out of the others, but I don't believe it was intentional, because they locked out Pivot and 7, also. I should have left and opened another set. I know it today, but I didn't realize it last night. Fuck it! It was fun! And I gaurantee that she is thinking about me today! |
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| Author: | Marlow [ Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:01 pm ] |
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I wouldn't have attempted to use a BF destroyer so early in the interaction. By doing so, you inadvertantly said "how about some dick?" Usually BF destroyers work best after you have used a disqualifier and have a mutual attraction. |
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| Author: | NK [ Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:01 pm ] |
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Ye id say as much as its good to get the BF destroyer in at some point during the set i find its often better to leave it till much later on. Definitely make sure you throw some good disqualifiers in beforehand and i often find its best to totally ignore the fact she just mentionned her boyfriend. It demonstrates your not at all intimidated by being compared to other men and simply have confidence in your own game to work the target over. It often helps to be selective over the things a girls says which you demonstrate interest. Maintaining a remote and distant dimeanor demonstrates higher value and makes the target work harder selling herself with what she says in order to gain more attention. You can turn the pickup on its head provided you make a good confident approach and maintain a calm and almost arrogant disinterest. |
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| Author: | Neo-the one [ Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:30 pm ] |
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Heh, I just need to learn how to use B/F destroyers, period! |
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| Author: | NK [ Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:50 am ] |
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ye definitely but i thinkt the reason she mentionned her boyfriend was because maybe you hadnt used disqualifers and gained mutual attraction. i find girls tend to mention a boyfriend for two reasons either as a bitch shield ie its obvious your hitting on them or because they are in a loving relationship. cant do much about the second but generally if you game a girl right they wont mention the bf. anyway sorry dont mean to get on your game man sounds like your doing well good to hear your having fun in the field. |
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| Author: | Neo-the one [ Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:19 pm ] |
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"anyway sorry dont mean to get on your game man sounds like your doing well good to hear your having fun in the field." Hey, I need the constructive criticism. Or else I wouldn't be here. So, neg, disqualifier, DHV, then IOI her? |
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| Author: | NK [ Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:46 pm ] |
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ye i think that you need to focus on getting those in first, then if she mentions the boyfriend pull out the boyfriend destroyer as it shows shes going to need a little more gaming than the usual i guess lol. it tends to be in defence so if your heading in indirectly she shouldnt need to use it in defence to anything. also id probably wait to get an ioi before handing any out. the idea of negs dhv and disqualifiers is to give the impression you arent interested and to make her have to work for you. i always find its great for your confidence aswell to recieve an IOI before you send any out and again its DHVing and making her crave your attention or acceptance rather than the other way round. nice work anyway man your learning the best way possible by getting out in the field and seeing what you have success with |
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| Author: | Neo-the one [ Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:56 pm ] |
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I agree. I don't give IOIs until I get IOIs from her. She has to earn them. |
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