PUA Forum :: Night Club/2 # Closes

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Russian Star, thank you so much for your response. I have a couple questions though:

1. Could you explain rapport?
2. What do you mean "lock the set"
3.How should I AMOG him?
4. How should my wing DHV me? Example if possible

Your post was extremely helpful, thanks once again man!!!

Rapport is a fancy word for building comfort and finding junk in common.

Locking the set is simple, its when for example you leave against the wall and the set is surrounding you, or if your wearing a hat and put it on your target. It basically keeps the target and group intrigued and wanting to be with you.

You AMOG him by showing your value, you dont have to be a jerk and kick him outa the set.. thats something you do if he is a jerk to you, but if he is just there, befind him, show your value to your target and obstacle.

How does your wing DHV you? simple, the same way youd DHV yourself, he could tell an interesting story about you that trigggers one or more of the attraction switches.. people in general, not even girls.. will believe even a fake story if someone will tell it. YOu know how fake rumors are made and its hella hard to get someone to believe you? its the same thing, but instead of your wing telling her how much you suck, he can tell a interesting story to DHV you, it will give you more value then you DHVing yourself.

Author:	Soloman5000 [ Mon May 05, 2008 11:08 pm ]
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Alright so this was my first actual field test since I started reading the forums. Me and a friend Hotsteppin'peacock who is also on the forums went to a local night club. For some reason, there wasnt many people there but we made the best out of what was available. So we enter the club, there are hardly any girls there and we were a little early. So we hang out, and scope out the talent. We see a HB7 and HB4 come in together. They position themselves at a table about 10ft infront of us with the HB7's back towards us. The HB4 keeps looking over at us. So me and hotsteppin are not really excited about talking to them because there not really hot but we need the practice so I convince him we should. The convincing took roughly 10 minutes and during this time two other guys had made their way to these girls. We watch their techniques are quickly realize they are AFC's. They talk to the girls for a good 15 minutes. For some reason, one would talk, then the other one would go back and forth to their table for no reason. We could tell they didnt number close but one of them keept lingering around the HB7. At this point I decide to interrupt the AFC and start trying out my open'er. So I walk over, and put my back towards the AFC and block him from talking to the HB's. Once I did this, hotsteppin later told me he rolled off. I open with I can tell these guys are really boring you HB7: lol Me:Well while im here let me get you guys opinion on something HB7: Alright Me: You have seen the guys who workout and have really big upperbodies but stick legs and walk around like roosters with thier chest out, do you think that is weird looking? HB7: Yeah thats def really weird HB4: agrees Me: Yah me and my friend were talking about how weird is was and wanted a girls opinion on it. Me: Hosteppin'peacock, come here, tell these girls about that guy we know who walks around like a rooster. -Hotsteppin was at the bar and he walks over to the set Hosteppin: Yah we have this friend named______ and he has this huge upperbody but he has tiny legs but he thinks hes badass. He walks around like he has suitcases in his hands............(imitates how our friend walks). HBS: both LOL'ing Me: So why are there no people in this club? You guys scare them off? HB7: I have no clue, it really sucks though. Me: Yah, have you guys been to _______Club? HB7:Yah it seems to be a lot better HB4: agrees, blah blah blah -Hotstepppin does some fluff while I give the HB4 some attention Me: Well look, me and hotsteppin are going to a friends party later tonight, you guys need to come. HB7: But we wont know any of the people there Me: Well you know me and hotsteppin now, im ______, and hotsteppin_______, now we all know each other and are friends. HBS: LOL, agrees Me: So look, you guys give me your numbers and I may call you later tonight. If I call you guys are going to come! -I hand the HB7 my cell phone and she puts her number in it, then I hand it to the HB4 and she puts hers in it also. Me: Alright were going to grab a drink from the bar, we will cya later. -We immediately start another opener with a new set at the bar. -The Fluff that hotsteppin provided made the convo go on a lot longer than what I listed, I just couldnt really make out what he was saying. Now, I waited 2 days to call the HB7, and I got no answer, but got her voicemail. I left a brief message, "This is soloman5000, I met you ______night at ______club, hit me back up". I have not heard from her since I left the message. That was 1 day ago when I called. I dont know if I didnt build enough attraction and comfort or that they may have seen us go into the same routine on the next set. Or possibly they really expected me to call that night about the party and they got mad cause I didnt. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated, we are still learning. Later I will tell about set 2 and set 3.

Author:	Hot Steppin' Peacock [ Tue May 06, 2008 12:33 am ]
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I remember that night.

Author:	Hot Steppin' Peacock [ Tue May 06, 2008 12:36 am ]
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This is what happend that same night, after we moved from set 1. The Bartender didn't look bad. Now ive been waiting at the bar for a few minutes, and the bartender knows that, but never asked for my order. So i signal her to come over to me so i can order a drink. Me: Whose dick do you have to suck to get a redbull around here? Her: looks at me with a WTF look on her face Me: immediately after she looked at me funny "Can i get a redbull please?" Her: hands me redbull "4 Dollars" Me: 4 Bucks? Jesus Christ! Does it come with your number? Her: Looks at me and turns her head away immediately so i cannot see an expression on her face I get my change and thats all that happend, she was a real bitch so fuck her. The dude bartender got her back for us and dropped somthing on purpose so she would pick it up (she had a very small skirt) Im glad I did it because I was really shy at first, but I just said in my mind (wtf ill give it a go).

Author:	Soloman5000 [ Tue May 06, 2008 2:35 am ]
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Anyone?

Author:	Soloman5000 [ Tue May 06, 2008 4:47 pm ]
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We need help!

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Author:	Soloman5000 [ Tue May 06, 2008 9:36 pm ]
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I need some advice on what I did wrong.

Author:	DaddyTunes [ Wed May 07, 2008 6:09 pm ]
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WHAT the hell does HB7 and HB4 and HB? mean???!!?!?! im new here i asked already on another thread and never got the answer

Author:	Hot Steppin' Peacock [ Wed May 07, 2008 6:11 pm ]
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HB is Hot Babe, and the # is the way they look form 1-10 Heres a link to some terms: terms-of-importance-great-for-new-membe ... highlight=

Author:	RussianStar [ Wed May 07, 2008 6:37 pm ]
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Alright, im not memorizing your names, but the guy who spoke to the bartender... you were too arrogant. Women have to be treated with respect. Im obsessed with dicks. If some guy came up to you wile you were working and said, "whos dick do i have to suck...." ud be like, "wtf is his problem." It was probably a dumb thing to do to say that.. All u did was lower your value... To the guy who opened the 2 set.. the HB 7 and 4.. here is what you did wrong and why she never returned your call. BTW, you can delete that #, she will never call you ever. This is why: You came up and said, "those guys look like they are boring you." Why not say, "omg, this place is so lame, its so boring." And then the opinion opener.. which was good... Next, you blocked the guy.. why do that.. its dumb.. Why not be friends with the guy, be the life of the party.. now he thinks, "man, this guy is a jerk." and you probably made him feel bad. Why not make a new friend, sure AMOG him so you can get the girl, but dnt act liek an asshole, ur supposed to be a guy with high value. U didn't use a false time constrait, you didn't lock into the set. And you shoulda invited your 2 set to go to the bar wiht you and build rapport, and if it god really boring, you shoulda bounced to another location.. you didn't use kino.. u lowered your value.. She gave you her # because she was bored and you invited her to a party.. I can walk up to a random girl, bild no rapport, no comfort and say, "im goin to a huge party, and im inviting peope to come, whats your #." and that would work... if i cal a few days later, she either wont pick up, or say, "who is this." How i usually do it is, i build rapport.. they give me the #.. i text them.. and coax them to add it to their phone so we have some kind of bond. BTW, to the guy who used the DICK SUCK line.. dnt curse if its not congruent.. I don't say, "hey brutha.. whats up dawg, ya feel me?" cuz its not me.. i seem like a retard... you have to be congruent.. and you have to lock in the set.. For a hired gun or bar tender.. you have to have a lot of social proof.. so i suggest, being the life of the party, make friends with everyone.. onc everyone is friends with you, and you have social proof, the bar tender will notice... you go in, strike DHV, and thats it. BTW!!! fluff talk is dumb... u did not DHV.. and your opener about the muscle guy sucks.. where do you take it from there. She just said, "yeah, thats weird." She didnt offer a good conversation.. then you made fun of the guy.. she dosent know the guy and you CALLED HIM your friend!!!! What kinda guy of high value makes fun of his friends. Why didnt you use the jealous gf opener or something that will get girls talking. I DARE YOU TO GO AND SEARCH FOR A GOSSIP FORUM.. nobody is talking about chicken leg guys.. they are talking about relationships, who is dating who, who fucked who.. i wouldnt go up to a girl and ask her what her favorite type of car is, sedan, roadster, coupe, light coupe, supercar, hypercar.. I love cars.. but she might not, she will be like, "i have a sedan, so i guess that.. idk." boom, she lost interest.. you made it painfully obvious you weren't there to ask her that question and you were just hitting on her in a abnormal and not natural way. You also ended with, "im gonna go get a drink at the bar." Why didnt you invite them and play a bar bet.. the 5 question game is good, get them to buy you a drink.. do a compliance test or 2.. ur wing should not have fluff talked, your wing should have DHV'd you.. I totally suggest you read the Handbook.. and if you have, reread it.. cuz if you went out for fun night and not sarging, you did it wrong. If you went out to sarge, you messed that up even more.

Author:	Soloman5000 [ Wed May 07, 2008 10:51 pm ]
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Russian Star, thank you so much for your response. I have a couple questions though: 1. Could you explain rapport? 2. What do you mean "lock the set" 3.How should I AMOG him? 4. How should my wing DHV me? Example if possible Your post was extremely helpful, thanks once again man!!!

Author:	RussianStar [ Wed May 07, 2008 11:57 pm ]
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Quote: Russian Star, thank you so much for your response. I have a couple questions though: 1. Could you explain rapport? 2. What do you mean "lock the set" 3.How should I AMOG him? 4. How should my wing DHV me? Example if possible Your post was extremely helpful, thanks once again man!!! Rapport is a fancy word for building comfort and finding junk in common. Locking the set is simple, its when for example you leave against the wall and the set is surrounding you, or if your wearing a hat and put it on your target. It basically keeps the target and group intrigued and wanting to be with you. You AMOG him by showing your value, you dont have to be a jerk and kick him outa the set.. thats something you do if he is a jerk to you, but if he is just there, befind him, show your value to your target and obstacle. How does your wing DHV you? simple, the same way youd DHV yourself, he could tell an interesting story about you that trigggers one or more of the attraction switches.. people in general, not even girls.. will believe even a fake story if someone will tell it. YOu know how fake rumors are made and its hella hard to get someone to believe you? its the same thing, but instead of your wing telling her how much you suck, he can tell a interesting story to DHV you, it will give you more value then you DHVing yourself.

Author:	Soloman5000 [ Thu May 08, 2008 1:38 am ]
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Quote: Quote: Russian Star, thank you so much for your response. I have a couple questions though: 1. Could you explain rapport? 2. What do you mean "lock the set" 3.How should I AMOG him? 4. How should my wing DHV me? Example if possible Your post was extremely helpful, thanks once again man!!! Rapport is a fancy word for building comfort and finding junk in common. Locking the set is simple, its when for example you leave against the wall and the set is surrounding you, or if your wearing a hat and put it on your target. It basically keeps the target and group intrigued and wanting to be with you. You AMOG him by showing your value, you dont have to be a jerk and kick him outa the set.. thats something you do if he is a jerk to you, but if he is just there, befind him, show your value to your target and obstacle. How does your wing DHV you? simple, the same way youd DHV yourself, he could tell an interesting story about you that trigggers one or more of the attraction switches.. people in general, not even girls.. will believe even a fake story if someone will tell it. YOu know how fake rumors are made and its hella hard to get someone to believe you? its the same thing, but instead of your wing telling her how much you suck, he can tell a interesting story to DHV you, it will give you more value then you DHVing yourself. Thanks a lot Russian Star, that clears up a lot. Also, the reason why we didnt invite them to the bar is because we are not old enough to drink and nether were they, any other ideas on how to move a set within a club if your underage? Thanks

Author:	RussianStar [ Thu May 08, 2008 2:03 am ]
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I am not old enough to drink to, im gay. What you wanna do is see if they would buy you a non-alcoholic beverage.. using a bar-bet game like the 5 question game or something. It also gives you a chance to kino.. i would personally try to bounce them out of that bar into another social gathering.. This way you can find anotehr set and merge them. This increases your social value, which you woulda needed cuz you already portrayed yourself to be an asshole by closing out that guy and ur opener didnt help, neither did your wing. If she isnt old enough to dirnk,a nd neither are you, move to a differnet social gathering. How you ask? Like this, "hey, me and my best friend (make sure you call your wing your best friend) really think this place sucks, we know this party/club/lounge/bar, why dnt you tag along, i promise it will be more fun then.. well.. this. After a hour or 2 at your new location, after you have bevome the life of the party and showed social proof.. you say, "I am getting pretty hungry, lets get something to eat, i know this awesome restaurant." This is where you can use the bar-bet and get her to pay for your meal. hahah.. u would not pay for hers, this is not a date.. u are not her boyfriend, and she did nothing special for you to go out of your way to pay for her.. This would be a good time to isolate your target.. but u might want to do it earlier, use microcalibration to tell you.. but isolate your target, and switch to a more direct game.. you would isolate her by saying, to her friend, "me and your friend like each other, is that ok with you?" when she says yes, you get social approval frmo the obstice and say, "im gonna borrow your friend for 1 sec, kk?" you hold your hand out, our arget takes it, to bring her to a secluded area, talk for a little, go in for the K-close and # close.. if u # close in front of the obsticle.. it might be uncomfortable. I you abolutely have to, then u have no other choise. If you did that, ud have a better chance of succeeding with the HB 7 then what u did.. which sucked.. hope that helped.. BTW, u can thank me by sticking it in my butt and such!

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