2) Take control: Challenge a woman who is challenging your value. If you allow her to dictate your value by making you wait, you'll end up waiting in the friend zone.

In your other post you got a piece of advice that fits here perfectly.
You allowed her to dictate when a kiss was going to happen. The reason she got to dictate it was because you tried to force the situation on her instead of doing it in the moment. Once you believed that a kiss was not going to be possible you seemed to have lost interest in the date by allowing her to do the talking and you just listening and not joining in. She felt the loss of interest and ended it by telling you that it was nice meeting you.

Truthfully, it doesn't sound like there will be a second date because you made no emotional connection on this one. You can try to contact her again and hopefully there is interest still there, but I wouldn't start chasing her.

In your other post you got a piece of advice that fits here perfectly.
You allowed her to dictate when a kiss was going to happen. The reason she got to dictate it was because you tried to force the situation on her instead of doing it in the moment. Once you believed that a kiss was not going to be possible you seemed to have lost interest in the date by allowing her to do the talking and you just listening and not joining in. She felt the loss of interest and ended it by telling you that it was nice meeting you.

Truthfully, it doesn't sound like there will be a second date because you made no emotional connection on this one. You can try to contact her again and hopefully there is interest still there, but I wouldn't start chasing her.

Thank You for the reply Jack......what does it mean to "challenge a woman" ?

Well... actually that was a big mistake. You don't set up a kiss that way. If you want to kiss her your objective should be to generate enough arousal so that she is the one who really wants to kiss you. Your focus was on "lets make her logical mind make a decision to kiss me" when in a reality your focus should have been on "lets sexually arouse her enough so that her primal brain will force her to kiss me".
All in all, i believe the biggest mistake is when a PUA tries to convince or make an agreement with his target.
you want to kiss her ===> which emotional state do you want to evoke so that kissing you will be a normal behavior? (sexual arousal) ===> lets create that emotional state in her and then go in for the kiss.

Actually what I would of done if I could of gone back into time

What you should do is not talk about you and her kissing while on the date. Instead you just kiss when the moment presents itself.

If it were me and I could go back in time...I'd play the lotto.

Bud, dont you get it? She said "I dont kiss on the first date"

Bud, dont you get it? She said "I dont kiss on the first date"

We went to the lake. I bought her skittles (influenced by RC's guide to buy her something she likes under $5)

No... You don't get what jack is telling you... You don't verbalize kissing (unless you've gotten alot of green lights which you didnt)

Also you don't need to wait 24 hrs to show her you're not desperate. No offense but you are. You had to make a bet for a kiss. You let her waste your time talking about her ex.. You want a second date with a virgin girl who wouldn't even kiss you so she can talk more about her ex and tell k you stupid stuff like I don't kiss because of x. You really think she doesn't know you're being desperate? Would a guy with options waste his time like that and then want another go to waste more time? Think before you say things.

I think I did good with the skittles part, she said it was her favourite candy.....and I didnt get her the sour kind, but the regular and she said yeah she doesnt like the sour kind..

Yep its in RC's guide which is good.






You sure that wasn't mine? lol


You've already gotten great answers.