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Author:  nrjose27 [ Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Tried to build social proof, manager busts me
I never knew you could get in trouble for this sort of thing!

Like the above title says, I was practicing building social proof by rapidly engaging sets for no more than 5 seconds. "Hey, what's up? I'm so-and-so. Nice to meet you," was all i said (more or less), they would (sometimes) introduce themselves, i'd end the brief interaction with a hug/handshake, then open the next set.

On the last set that I opened to get in-state, I feel a hand pressed hard against my shoulder. I thought it was my wingman telling me that we were changing venues, but when I turned, it was this old, scruffy looking guy. We were about the same height.

He leads me out of set and interrogates me, believing my social-proofing to be some sort of an elaborate conspiracy for a much bigger plot - if I was "dealing in his club". (He wasn't wrong, actually, but the truth is something he wouldnt understand.) I asked him who he was, and he said the M-word.

So how did I react? slightly cocky: i didn't let this guy get in my head. I tilted my head slightly upwards as if I was looking down on him. Here I was trying to change my lifestyle, but if I didn't want to get thrown out of the bar and totally negate my social-proof, I had to play by his rules; I was walking on thin ice.

My wing and I had to go, anyways. My job was already done by the time I got busted, so we vamoosed to another bar. So that's what it felt like to get in trouble lol
Author:  ChocolatePUA [ Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tried to build social proof, manager busts me
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I never knew you could get in trouble for this sort of thing!

Like the above title says, I was practicing building social proof by rapidly engaging sets for no more than 5 seconds. "Hey, what's up? I'm so-and-so. Nice to meet you," was all i said (more or less), they would (sometimes) introduce themselves, i'd end the brief interaction with a hug/handshake, then open the next set.

On the last set that I opened to get in-state, I feel a hand pressed hard against my shoulder. I thought it was my wingman telling me that we were changing venues, but when I turned, it was this old, scruffy looking guy. We were about the same height.

He leads me out of set and interrogates me, believing my social-proofing to be some sort of an elaborate conspiracy for a much bigger plot - if I was "dealing in his club". (He wasn't wrong, actually, but the truth is something he wouldnt understand.) I asked him who he was, and he said the M-word.

So how did I react? slightly cocky: i didn't let this guy get in my head. I tilted my head slightly upwards as if I was looking down on him. Here I was trying to change my lifestyle, but if I didn't want to get thrown out of the bar and totally negate my social-proof, I had to play by his rules; I was walking on thin ice.

My wing and I had to go, anyways. My job was already done by the time I got busted, so we vamoosed to another bar. So that's what it felt like to get in trouble lol
I understand why you wanted to build social proof, and how you were doing that, but staying in sets for super short periods of time would do little to help you.

It's great that you are approaching sets, but you can and should stay in the set if you feel like you've built a decent amount of rapport with them, rather than leaving.

Simply introducing yourself to them doesn't necessarily build social proof. Good idea, just don't think it will work as well in practice as you may think in principle.
Author:  Eddie Fews [ Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tried to build social proof, manager busts me
The M word? Thats a new one. Lol

I'm not getting why you were ejecting out of the sets so early? Whats your goal? I'm all for rapidly jumping into the next set after you're done with the first, but stick in to learn as much as you can from each one in the process. So how far you could push things.

I've personally never had this happen. Something about you, must've made him feel comfortable coming over to do that. I would of reacted much differently.
Author:  oceanx [ Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tried to build social proof, manager busts me
I have not had this happen either. What is the employee going to say, "you are not allowed to engage in a positive banter with people."
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I would of reacted much differently.
How would you have reacted? I am curious as to your response in such a situation.
Author:  nrjose27 [ Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tried to build social proof, manager busts me
I should've mentioned this beforehand, but this was my first - yes, my absolute first - time going to clubs. Loud, blasting music with crowded people is something that i must get used to if i am to become successful at pickup. I've been to rock concerts, but in these situations, i'm always at the front and the people i engage is extremely limited.

Of course, as this was my first time clubbing (i still see myself as a club virgin lol), my club Game is still in its infantile stages (i still can't kino well, isolate, bring girl back to my place, etc.). Rapidly approaching sets and not staying too long would allow me to at least get myself into that "fun" mindset. In fact, there were some times when my light conversation turned into a long, engaging conversation, but again, my club Game isn't so advanced that i can do a same-night lay.

I've been to two other bars/clubs after this unfortunate mishap with nothing going wrong, but i just still couldn't believe that being sociable was looked down upon in that particular establishment. The manager said that i wasn't buying any of his drinks, but even if i did, he'd still bust on me for talking to girls and sets that had girls.
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