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Author:  DW-Heart-Charmer [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:37 am ]
Post subject:  Define the Relationship

I just converted a new girl to an MLTR through speed dating oddly enough. First time I ever done it lol.

Anyways she is pretty cool girl now. The first date was at a bar and then I brought her home for the close. She was on her period so I had her give me a BJ. A week later she came over and brought alcohol. We didn't have ice so she went and got some. F close. She is above average at sex and I can get her better.

The next week, I invited her over and she invited me to her work thing (trying to get me to be the boyfriend). I said she should come over after. She did. We hook up and it's becoming the relationship I want it to be (more on that later).

Tonight she texts me to hang out. She mentions something about using my computer for her job. I tell her I'd like to hang out, but I am not interested in the job search part. She says just 10 min. I ignore and she says she will take care of it and see me Wednesday night.

This is important because I am not the guy she does errands with, rather I am the guy she comes over to see, we hook up, talk about cool stuff and then she goes. At this time, I don't really have time for the girlfriend thing nor want it. I am designing the relationship I want where we hang out once a week, it is just good times and then she is back a week later. This takes good sex, a strong frame, and a willingness to walk away. Plus I have to know what I want and how to get that. Going good so far :)

Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:16 pm ]
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So this is not a relationship. It's a FWB (in training) L.R.

Author:  JackZero [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:59 pm ]
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Yeah...this doesn't really sound like you've defined the relationship to her. At best she is a fuck buddy to you, which I have no problem with, but to her she's trying to get something more. You know what she wants from you but instead of being honest about your intentions you avoid saying what it really is to her just to keep her around for sex. That's having a false front. False fronts create weak frames. Weak frames always lead to losing a woman the moment it is exposed.

Author:  DW-Heart-Charmer [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:15 am ]
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Yeah...this doesn't really sound like you've defined the relationship to her. At best she is a fuck buddy to you, which I have no problem with, but to her she's trying to get something more. You know what she wants from you but instead of being honest about your intentions you avoid saying what it really is to her just to keep her around for sex. That's having a false front. False fronts create weak frames. Weak frames always lead to losing a woman the moment it is exposed.
Often I have found it to be better to communicate with a woman in actions rather than language. Especially during her trial period.

In addition, she found a bra underneath my bed the other night. I didn't blink an eye. Fuck your false frame.

Author:  JackZero [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:16 am ]
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Yeah...this doesn't really sound like you've defined the relationship to her. At best she is a fuck buddy to you, which I have no problem with, but to her she's trying to get something more. You know what she wants from you but instead of being honest about your intentions you avoid saying what it really is to her just to keep her around for sex. That's having a false front. False fronts create weak frames. Weak frames always lead to losing a woman the moment it is exposed.
Often I have found it to be better to communicate with a woman in actions rather than language. Especially during her trial period.

In addition, she found a bra underneath my bed the other night. I didn't blink an eye. Fuck your false frame.
Fuck my false frame lol. Tough talk from someone who sent this:
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But then again, we're at the same spot. You don't understand. You'd rather be defensive and lash out. BTW...Congrats on not blinking about the bra. When you get to the point of making girls clean their shit up and not running out all loose tittied, tell us about that too.

Author:  CharlesFinley [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:23 am ]
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Yeah...this doesn't really sound like you've defined the relationship to her. At best she is a fuck buddy to you, which I have no problem with, but to her she's trying to get something more. You know what she wants from you but instead of being honest about your intentions you avoid saying what it really is to her just to keep her around for sex. That's having a false front. False fronts create weak frames. Weak frames always lead to losing a woman the moment it is exposed.
Often I have found it to be better to communicate with a woman in actions rather than language. Especially during her trial period.

In addition, she found a bra underneath my bed the other night. I didn't blink an eye. Fuck your false frame.
Fuck my false frame lol. Tough talk from someone who sent this:
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But then again, we're at the same spot. You don't understand. You'd rather be defensive and lash out. BTW...Congrats on not blinking about the bra. When you get to the point of making girls clean their shit up and not running out all loose tittied, tell us about that too.
DW's expert, veteran-level advice continues to inspire.

Look dude (DW, not Jack), you didn't/don't have to be a dick because you don't agree with peoples' advice. There's room for more than one opinion here... You're just intentionally trying to stir shit up for some reason...

Author:  DW-Heart-Charmer [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Define the Relationship

Why are you attacking me? I would send that message again. I mean those words.

Can we focus on game and not ego battles?

Author:  JackZero [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:03 am ]
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Why are you attacking me? I would send that message again. I mean those words.

Can we focus on game and not ego battles?
You sound like the bully that ran into your victim's big brother.

Don't talk shit and then ask for peace. This has never been an ego battle except for you. You even stated that you came in and ruffled feathers and put people on notice that you'd do it. The fact is that you can dish shit out but when it's put back on you, you show your immaturity.

I should give you a pass because you are just a kid, wet behind the ears and think you know everything.

Author:  DW-Heart-Charmer [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Define the Relationship

Lol okay.

You can follow me around and bully my posts. Just as I stated in my message, I am interested in the greater good of this forum, that's what I'll be doing.

Author:  CharlesFinley [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:15 am ]
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I am interested in the greater good of this forum, that's what I'll be doing.
Sorry, if that's the case why are you attacking opinions that differ from yours and making such a grandiose, silly entrance here to put the mods on notice?

You're full of shit - and several people can smell it. I can't figure out if you're trolling or just showing your immaturity. But either way - how is that helping the forum?

Does being a dick to your community represent some kind of excellence in your world?

Let's drop the attitude, and we can all get along - if what you're really here for is to crusade for the greater good.

Author:  JackZero [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:20 am ]
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I am interested in the greater good of this forum
If that is the truth, we won't have any problems. Humble yourself and quit acting dickishly and I'm sure you'll be welcome.

Author:  DW-Heart-Charmer [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:40 am ]
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Sorry, if that's the case why are you attacking opinions that differ from yours and making such a grandiose, silly entrance here to put the mods on notice?

You're full of shit - and several people can smell it. I can't figure out if you're trolling or just showing your immaturity. But either way - how is that helping the forum?
A dissenting opinion will challenge everyone's beliefs and if you feel strong enough in your own beliefs, they will only grow stronger in those beliefs with an opposing belief pushed against them.

If however there was some ego involved or something more than discovering the world at play, opposing beliefs would do harm to your world view and put you on defense.

The guy who wholeheartedly believes his hair is brown, doesn't care if someone tells him his hair is blue.

A beautiful woman who believes that she is beautiful would only care if she was told different when her ego was threatened (ie a desirable guy said she was ugly).
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I am interested in the greater good of this forum
If that is the truth, we won't have any problems. Humble yourself and quit acting dickishly and I'm sure you'll be welcome.
I am not here for anyone's approval. Please don't take that personally and I am sure we can be on good terms.

Author:  JackZero [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:47 am ]
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I am not here for anyone's approval. Please don't take that personally and I am sure we can be on good terms.
The thing is that you have a deficiency when it comes to your social skills. Pick up revolves around how you socialize with 1 to many people. How can you expect to teach a social skill when you have that deficiency?

You don't have to worry about me taking anything personally, I'm just hoping that something gets through to you. You have lots to learn.

Author:  DW-Heart-Charmer [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:12 am ]
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The thing is that you have a deficiency when it comes to your social skills. Pick up revolves around how you socialize with 1 to many people. How can you expect to teach a social skill when you have that deficiency?
I can never teach you anything. The truth is inside of each and everyone of us, always has been. What we can for each other is inspire thought. We all have a lot to learn ;)

Author:  JackZero [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:16 am ]
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The thing is that you have a deficiency when it comes to your social skills. Pick up revolves around how you socialize with 1 to many people. How can you expect to teach a social skill when you have that deficiency?
I can never teach you anything. The truth is inside of each and everyone of us, always has been. What we can for each other is inspire thought. We all have a lot to learn ;)
At least your first sentence was right.

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