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| Author: | Mr. Stinson [ Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | I fucked her best friend and she knows, am i screwed? |
I have been in this situation twice now. Dateable girl has a boyfriend for a long time but shes part of my friend group. i wind up having a one/two night stand with her best friend. Dateable girl obviously hears about this, month or so later dateable girl is single. She is obviously into me but seems to stop herself from getting too intimate. Its like shes into me but doesnt want herself to be. I feel like things go really well then i get this odd resistance that is different from your general ASD. Both times ive been in this situation its been very similar and i got the same feeling from both girls. I think the fact that dateable girl and i were friends when i laid her BFF is what makes it tricky. If I didnt know dateable girl at the time then it would have been just a thing of the past, no big deal. From my perspective, if a chick slept with one of my closest buddies then tried to bang me, id probably be less inclined, especially if she was interested in a relationship. Also if i had dated her friend instead of one night stand it probably wouldnt even be an issue. However, the fact that it was a ONS probably makes me look like im hunting for trophies, which will certainly raise her ASD. i feel like i gave up the opportunity to have lots of passionate sex with a dateable woman and instead had some mediocre one night stands because of my appetite for women. what do you think? if a girl is dateable but unavailable should i keep my dick away from her friends with hopes that i may have a chance with her later on down the road? Edit: with the most recent chick, when we were having a really deep one on one convo i asked. "What do you think of the fact that i slept with Alli?". She responded with "weird." when i asked why she said something along the lines of "i dont know, its just... I know how she is with guys and..." then i believe we were interrupted. |
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| Author: | ASmooth90 [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I fucked her best friend and she knows, am i screwed? |
This question must be addressed on two levels. From a logical perspective, it seems like the answer would be that she may be turned off if you fuck her friend. From an evolutionary perspective, you should do your best to fuck as many of her friends as you can. Let me explain. Women are hardwired to seek out the man who has the highest "value." Value is based on a number of factors, but most relevant here is value attributed to a man by virtue of other women. In caveman times, the leader of the tribe was the man who was banging all of the women and passing on his DNA. The women developed heightened sensitivity to determine which man had the highest evolutionary value, in order to ensure survival and replication. The women did not want to fuck men of lower value, because their offspring would be chodes and probably die. This mechanism still operates in the female brain today, whether she wants to admit it or not. From an evolutionary perspective, if her friends like you and want to fuck you, you are a high value male, and thus more attractive. From a logical perspective, the answer may be different. Other human emotions such as jealousy may interfere. Since she said it would be "weird", but she couldn't seem to explain why it would be "weird", it's likely that she's implying that she would be jealous of her friend. Understand, however, that female psychology is different than male psychology, and although you would be turned off if she banged one of your friends, the same feeling will not necessarily ensue if you bang one of her friends. For these reasons, I would advise you to bang her friend, but make it seem like it just "happened", and it wasn't something that you planned. The heightened value within the social circle will probably outweigh the potential detriment of jealous feelings. |
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| Author: | CharlesFinley [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I fucked her best friend and she knows, am i screwed? |
Quote: This question must be addressed on two levels. From a logical perspective, it seems like the answer would be that she may be turned off if you fuck her friend. From an evolutionary perspective, you should do your best to fuck as many of her friends as you can. Let me explain.
Women are hardwired to seek out the man who has the highest "value." Value is based on a number of factors, but most relevant here is value attributed to a man by virtue of other women. In caveman times, the leader of the tribe was the man who was banging all of the women and passing on his DNA. The women developed heightened sensitivity to determine which man had the highest evolutionary value, in order to ensure survival and replication. The women did not want to fuck men of lower value, because their offspring would be chodes and probably die. This mechanism still operates in the female brain today, whether she wants to admit it or not. From an evolutionary perspective, if her friends like you and want to fuck you, you are a high value male, and thus more attractive. From a logical perspective, the answer may be different. Other human emotions such as jealousy may interfere. Since she said it would be "weird", but she couldn't seem to explain why it would be "weird", it's likely that she's implying that she would be jealous of her friend. Understand, however, that female psychology is different than male psychology, and although you would be turned off if she banged one of your friends, the same feeling will not necessarily ensue if you bang one of her friends. For these reasons, I would advise you to bang her friend, but make it seem like it just "happened", and it wasn't something that you planned. The heightened value within the social circle will probably outweigh the potential detriment of jealous feelings. While this is very detailed... the answer has fuck all to do with DNA. You fucked her friend. Yes, you're screwed... Unless you can swing a threesome. |
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| Author: | Mr. Stinson [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I fucked her best friend and she knows, am i screwed? |
UPDATE***** ***i didnt intend for this thread to be "do i have a chance?" i wanted it to be more of "do you think this hindered me?" ***** anyways, i have many other options going on so i have really only been talking to this girl because we have a lot in common and seem to make good friends. Do i still feel attracted to her? of course. Am i getting her to wingman me and also introduce me to her friends? of course. Soooooo. we have a real heart to heart via text, eventually she invites me over later *something that shes never done* and we talk. Its one of those good talks though. The real personal type. like when your getting to learn more about yourself by sharing with this other person kind of talk. really it was fuckn magical. (you are probably thinking now that im gunna bang her. nope.) At some point we are laughing, and i just say it: me: "you were definitely into me a couple months back." her: "oh yeah, i definitely had a crush on your for a while." me: "haha i could tell. im gunna ask you a personal question though...Did me sleeping with Ali affect my chances with you?" her: "OH YEAH. DEFINITELY. LIKE 100%.....YEAH" me: "haha i could tell that also, bummer (or some shit like that.) ***********THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS: IF YOU MEET A WOMAN THAT IS WORTH DATING BUT SHE IS TAKEN AT THE TIME. DONT BANG HER FRIENDS." you can stop reading now if you like, if your interested in the rest of my experience continue. then we got into talking and she even told me what she didnt like about me. she said i was cocky, i banged her friend and I tend to objectify women . I told her that she found me attractive partly because of my cockyness. (i play cocky funny alot with my group of friends) and she admitted it was a little attractive. Now dont get me wrong, this girl was 100% a oneitis for a short period of time so i tried EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK. I especially tried making her jealous (and ill admit im still subtly trying) so i would pick up women infront of her. I believe this is why she thinks i objectify women. One time i spotted a girl across the bar, took off my jacket, gave it to her, told her to hold it and said "im gunna go bang that chick" and went to open a set. In all honesty i take lots of pride in how passionate and intimate my sexual experience is and i think women are beautiful, sensitive creatures. I never actually objectify a woman but i do jokingly do it as a power thing. Women tend to love it and hate it at the same time. where i currently stand: Honestly i think its about the same place. I still think she is very attracted to me, not just because of the fact that i have high value, but also as who i am as a person. Though i think she has decided to fight the feelings. She seems to realize that our kino is very sexually charged and she awkwardly avoids it. (i dont push it on her , but i can tell she is vary aware if we touch accidentally.) to be honest is pretty adorable. Its like her heart has given in but her mind and body havent yet. I know she just got out of a 3 year relationship and has the intention to just bang a bunch of guys. This is a little annoying to think about but i know it is unfair to feel that way because she knows that ive been with a fair amount of women and will continue to be and it would be hypocritical to try to stop her. For some reason i feel like things will just work its self out with this chick. Kinda like shes one for the long haul, its just not time yet. Short form: She did like me. Banging her friend seriously made a hurdle. I still think she is attracted to me and cant help it. I will get her yet. |
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| Author: | ASmooth90 [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I fucked her best friend and she knows, am i screwed? |
Dude I didn't read past the part where she said that you fucking her friend affected your chances with her, but you're missing the bigger picture. Yes, logically, she is jealous. But women are evolutionarily wired to go for a man of high value. Make her forget about her logical reasons for being jealous (some time will help), and if you're in social situations where you're around her and her friends, be the fucking man, make her see that her friends are attracted to you, and she will follow. |
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| Author: | CharlesFinley [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I fucked her best friend and she knows, am i screwed? |
Due respect to the poster above me, again, but dude -- I was right the first time. You're fucked. Focus your efforts elsewhere and forget about her. Advising you to focus on her and try to change her opinion of you is the opposite of abundance mentality and not what pickup is about. I also can't imagine it'll work. |
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