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| Author: | ntg2978 [ Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | What I'm learning, my journey |
For a long time, I struggled with how to convey a feeling of power and strength when dealing with women. Seemed like whenever I wanted to get to know a girl, she wasn't interested, but when I was busy, or feeling totally fine without them, then they were, and it caught me totally off guard. This seemed like a never-ending paradox to me, until someone taught me how to merge the two things, so that I was both powerful (in a state of power and strength, where I didn't need anybody) and seductive simultaneously. I have been working with this guy, Jay, who helped me put the two together, and I got to tell you, that my results have skyrocketed so far as a result. We've been discussing things like state-transference (meaning whatever you're feeling, she starts feeling), which is really powerful when you're in this state, because you cut out all the bullshit, and go straight to the primal urges part. Using this technique, I pulled a girl from a bar in less than 30 mins, because it was just so intense between us from the very beginning. So, what this guy told me to do was to imagine I was going to chop up a girl with an axe! I was like, wtf!? But he continued, what I really should be doing is giving off this intense sexual vibe, but since I was having a hard time doing that (I was feeling nervous), he told me to focus on a feeling like I was going to axe her; he said that the girl can't tell the difference between a feeling of intense violence vs a feeling of intense sexuality, and it is easier to feel strong & powerful with an emotion I have some experience of feeling (everyone has felt like beating the shit out of someone). Man, this did so much to help my game it's crazy. Now I can walk into a place, and feel like I don't need anyone, so I don't give off that neediness vibe, but at the same time have state transference working for me simultaneously, so that when I start talking to a girl, not only is she attracted to me because I'm showing I'm not needy, but she starts feeling intense emotions, because that's what I'm feeling at the time. The result is kind of like the feeling of walking up to a geek and telling them that you'll get them a date if they'll do your homework, of course they're going to say yes, and that's exactly what it feels like, like you can't really lose. |
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| Author: | ntg2978 [ Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What I'm learning, my journey |
Last night, went to the bar, and ended up meeting a friend I used to work with. We chatted for probably an hour, was not interested in pulling her, as she's dating a guy I used to work with, and I'm not that kind of dude. She leaves, and then I approached a girl on her own. The Stealers game was on, she had a jersey on, so that was a really easy approach lol we probably chatted for about 2 hours about a lot of deep stuff, I was not really interested in pulling her either, as she was not someone that I really wanted to have a relationship with, and lately, I've been getting way pickier about who I sleep with, I don't just want one-night-stands anymore, I want to find women that I'm really interested in dating. So, we went and got some cigs, smoked some for a while, drove her back to her car, and she told me to look her up at this other bar later on. So, I may check out the bar, would be cool to have a friend when I go out, as usually I've just been going out on my own. I still really need to work on group approaches, so I'm going to start working on that the next time I go out. I've pretty well got single ones down, and can talk as long as I want to. Now it's time to tackle groups. |
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| Author: | Jay (Majik) [ Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What I'm learning, my journey |
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I still really need to work on group approaches, so I'm going to start working on that the next time I go out. I've pretty well got single ones down, and can talk as long as I want to. Now it's time to tackle groups.
Don't worry so much about talking to the whole group initially. Just talk to the girl you want to talk to and if/when her friends start looking at you with that "who the fuck is this guy?" look... Acknowledge them, talk for a few minutes, then go back to the girl. Just show them that you are a normal, cool guy who's not going to rape their friend and bury her in your back yard. You've gotta just use your social intuition. When you feel the spot light on you, it's time to start performing. When you're talking to a girl's friend... Sometimes, those stares can cut through diamonds. |
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| Author: | ntg2978 [ Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What I'm learning, my journey |
I've gone out a couple of times since these last posts, and it's been pretty crappy to be honest. Just get there and not in state at all. I'm going to chalk this up to simultaneously doing a porn reboot, and I was at around 15-20 days when I went out, and had just went through all the emotional stuff, and was really exhausted. I'm feeling a lot better now, and I've noticed my perception changing from just a piece of ass to a whole person - I want to get to know women for who they are, and learn about them, instead of just sleeping with them. I have had a few experiences where I've slept with women the same night after meeting them, and then I text back to her afterwards and don't get a response; usually it just turns into a one night stand sort of situation, which I really don't want. So, now I'm focusing on really getting to know the girls a lot more, and going from there. Will report back as soon as I go out again. Really wanting to try some day game, but it's so fucking cold! lol |
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| Author: | Papagiorgio [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What I'm learning, my journey |
keep going |
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| Author: | ntg2978 [ Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What I'm learning, my journey |
Thanks Papagiorgio and Majik. Alright, so I'm feeling much more like myself again. I have 30 days done on my reboot, and am feeling better now. I feel more alive most days, and feel more energy for the gym and stuff. Went out to a lower-key bar about 2 nights ago, and saw a 2 set sitting at the bar. Took a seat nearest to them, and opened them with a simple Hello, how are you doing line, and then we began chatting. It was obvious the one closest to me was the dominant female, as when I asked her what she did, she gave some attitude and said she owned a restaurant downtown; I countered with, Oh, is it a family business...to which she had to concede that it is, and so I said, oh, that's still nice, to neg her just a tad and take her off her guard. I was really interested in the girl on her other side though, because she's an employee of the restaurant, and is also working PT with special needs people, and we really got along pretty well, for the limited amount of time we did talk. It was a difficult situation, because there was an older outgoing lady to my right about 4 stools away from me, that kept engaging me in conversation whenever there was a slight break in my talking to the set. I finally used this to my advantage, and engaged her in conversation, and then she felt she was a part of the group dynamic, and all of us began interacting, so there was not that same countering dynamic as before. However, now I did not get as much of a chance to talk to the girl on the end, whom I was interested in, so it did not turn out good. I did however find out where she worked, and we had a brief conversation (where there was lots of hard eye contact on both sides) and I could tell she was into me, and I showed her I was into her as well. The friend picked up on this, it seems, and initiated to leave with her, and she followed, and they were gone before I knew it. So, today, I went to the restaurant to see if I could get a chance to talk with her a bit more, and it turned out to be a very high-class sit-down type of restaurant, and I didn't want to go in by myself. So, I arranged for a buddy and I to go on Friday. Then I'm walking back to my car, and whoa! there's the girl! What are the odds? So, I stop and ask her wasn't she the one at the club, she says yes, she thought she recognized me, and I told her I checked out her restaurant, but didn't know it was a sit-down one; she said yes, and that she works during the weekdays mostly. I told her a buddy of mine and I are going to be coming in on Friday, and asked if she would be there, she said yes, so I left it with, ok, I'll see you on Friday. I decided not to go for the number close or anything because I had only talked with her for a max of 5 min total between the two meetings, and this one took me by surprise so much that I kind of fumbled through a lot of it, but did fairly well. So, a meet is setup to go in with a buddy to this restaurant on Friday and I'll engage her in a lot more conversation then; I've already told my buddy I'm into her, he already has a fiance' so I'm not worried about competition from him, and it should allow me to be able to talk to her more. The only thing that concerns me is the friend, if she is present, as well as if the place is busy, but I'll just use some false time constraints and get her to talk with me for a few minutes and grab her number or make a date on the spot. I should also mention that after the 2 set left, and after the older lay left, a couple of older ladies (very attractive for their age...maybe 50's) came in, and I engaged them in conversation, and talked with them for probably 2 hrs or so, and they told me the "secret" to not paying for parking downtown, and not having to walk 15 min to do it. While I was out downtown today, I checked out a few things, and think I've found somewhere I can park that's like 2 min away and still not pay for parking, so just goes to show you that you should not just go out to get laid or gf's, it's really good to go out with the mindset of networking as well, as these ladies invited me to the bar they work at which is down the street, and told me to come to their ground hog day party there. Also one of them was talking about setting me up with her daughter possibly lol I don't know, I prefer to find my own women. |
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| Author: | ntg2978 [ Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What I'm learning, my journey |
Been a while since I wrote here, been pretty busy with life shit going on lately. Alright, so I did go to that restaurant, my buddy flaked on me, so I had to go it alone, but went regardless. I showed up when there was like no one else in the restaurant, and she was my waitress, so that part worked out well. She took my order and I asked her some more questions about herself. I told her to come back and chat with me when she wasn't busy; she said ok. Long story short, I got her number. I called her the next day, but no voicemail; I texted her the day after that, but no response. I called her again the following day after that, and still no response. So, I've transitioned into inquisitive mode, thinking to myself, "Ok, how did you fuck up?" Upon going through in my mind what I did, I've come up with some realizations: 1. I was too available 2. I smiled a lot while talking to her (I was happy, but I looked like I was TOO excited to see her again - showed that I don't have choice among females, so I need to work on this) 3. I showed too much interest in her too quickly; should have kept it more relaxed 4. I should have told her "you have beautiful eyes" or "you have a great ass" or something, so that getting her number was in some sort of context of me finding her attractive, instead of taking the pussy way out that I did which was, "we should hang out sometime, why don't you give me your number" On this one though, I have mixed feelings; don't want to have her anit-slut defense kick up, but at the same time, want to show interest, so I'm not sure if I handled this right or not. That's really all that's been going on lately. Whenever I have results I'm not happy with, I go back to the drawing board and try to figure out what I can improve upon. |
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