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| Author: | TROLLO [ Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Is it Portsmouth? Having no notable success here. |
I’m in a place of despair, I’m 33 (though look about 25) of normal looks. I run my own mail order company and about to start a restaurant. I seem to be great at making friends with people, but terrible at getting the opposite sex attracted where I live. I’ve had 3 girlfriends and had sex with 5 girls, I am not coming from ‘virgin’ territory, I’ve been single since I was 28, and although I’m better looking and have the PUA education now, I’m doing worse than ever. I live in Portsmouth which is where my despairing situations seem to be based. I started studying PUA back in May 2013. My friend who’s a PUA in London suggested reading Models by Mark Manson, about the natural approach, this seems less aggressive than RSD and more suited to me. It certainly gave me good input on improving conversational skills for dates, and managed get a second date with a girl I really liked, but nothing else. My friend then recommended watching the RSD Blueprint 20 DVD series which I did. I learned a lot of comical / more high energy ways to interact with women which really didn’t work for me in the nightclubs and bars of Portsmouth. Just got a range of odd looks and the girls’ friends grabbing them away from me (although this has happened even when asking foreign girls where they’re from). What I came away from RSD benefiting from was the understanding of state which I get from putting myself into social interaction mode now by talking to pretty bar staff etc, and again I’m great at making friends so the bar staff enjoy talking to me at all our local hangouts. After watching RSD, reading Models, I was still getting no real success apart from one phone number close and one group approach to some Czech/Slovak girls (this one from just asking if we could join their spare table through circumstance – ended up at a club and I stupidly turned down sex as my friend liked her). So all this is about 9 months after starting PUA. Not even a kiss yet apart from that date. In March this year I contacted Ali who works with Kezia Noble about doing day game, he simplified PUA, building up social confidence by street approaching asking directions, then more awkward interactions, then 2 hours later I was approaching attractive women in the street. I approached 3 girls, who were 10/10s, I made a compliment, made them laugh, talked about our lives, then number closed, all in 5 min sets (bar 1 which I stupidly walked away from, rarely but sometimes I make stupid decisions!). I left that day feeling liberated. I was feeling so confident, talking to girls on the tube, who in the morning when arriving I could barely look in the eyes, as I only seem to usually get confident at night when getting into state in Portsmouth. I still only do night game. But have trained for night with RSD and Models. Plus Ali has been of great help with internet advise on this. == When I came back from London doing daygame to Portsmouth my friends were curious to see my new powers. Sadly since coming back here, there’s been nearly nothing but rejection and rudeness by women. I’ve studied so much now, and when I watch RSD, Kezia Noble, re-read Models, speak to Ali and my other PUA friend there’s nothing I’m doing wrong. Infact I see infield footage of people successfully closing at night and doing it worse in my opinion. There’s things I’m not doing like calling women sluts and asking “who the fuck are you?” as my approach, but I guess that’s just because I don’t find it acceptable. The only success in Portsmouth apart from a couple of number closures, has been a girl pulling me in a nightclub. I’ve taken so much shit, it’s left me depressed, and almost hating women. I’ve had girls laugh, mimic me, pretend to go for a smoke then walk out the venue, been snubbed. Girls in my town seem to favour obvious hipsters, chavs and bar tenders. I sound bitter, but I really go out every week with a new enthusiastic approach. My approach is: Open with “I thought you were pretty, add a specific compliment about their looks”, Introduce myself. Guess at what they do. Get a light hearted vibe conversation going, a few teases, humor based observations. Try and escalate with a more sexual compliment if I think she’s not too timid. Always close. BUT often I don’t get the chance beyond step 2. In between this time in May I went to Brighton for a music festival, night 1 I got 2 19 year old girls back to ours for drinks within 20 mins, and slept with 1, night 2 I joked around with a group of 20 something girls, and got them following me around the bar asking what I was doing later, night 3 I met a Zimbabwean doctor who became obsessed about meeting me in Portsmouth, and the same night number closed on a 19 year old hippie, and was bantering successfully a Latvian baseball girl. So Brighton and London have shown I can be successful with good looking women. So what is it, to me it must be Portsmouth? Has anyone else been to my town and what experiences have you had? I understand the mentality of being excited away from home. But I am not sulking when out. Supposedly my PUA friend was in 100s of lays here, and as has one other friend of a friend who read The Game. But I’ve seen no evidence of improvement here. SORRY IT’S A REAL LONG READ! AND APPRECIATE ANY FEEDBACK, WOULD WELCOME ANY LOCAL MEETS WITH FELLOW MEMBERS. |
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| Author: | EnsoNytes [ Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Portsmouth? Having no notable success here. |
What's up my man Trollo? I read your report. To try and offer you helpful advice, I would have to know a lot more about you as a person. Do you feel like you have to use canned material? If so, why? Do you only do night game? Have you tried going out and meeting women during the day? What are your hobbies? Have you tried joining clubs or taking classes that interest you? This is a great way to meet women. How do you feel like you are "failing" when it comes to women? What I'm saying, is that you should already feel that you are a confident well rounded dude. It sounds like you alluded to that when you said that you are about to start a new business venture. It sounds like you are having success in your professional life. This is great! PM me if you want to go into detail about stuff. |
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| Author: | TROLLO [ Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Portsmouth? Having no notable success here. |
Quote: What's up my man Trollo?
I don't approach with a script no, I'd say I confidentally approach with the pretty compliment and dialog I posted.I read your report. To try and offer you helpful advice, I would have to know a lot more about you as a person. Do you feel like you have to use canned material? If so, why? Do you only do night game? Have you tried going out and meeting women during the day? What are your hobbies? Have you tried joining clubs or taking classes that interest you? This is a great way to meet women. How do you feel like you are "failing" when it comes to women? What I'm saying, is that you should already feel that you are a confident well rounded dude. It sounds like you alluded to that when you said that you are about to start a new business venture. It sounds like you are having success in your professional life. This is great! PM me if you want to go into detail about stuff. I only done daygame in London, which was successful. I've kind of cowarded off here, based on nightgame being so unsucessfull. My hobbies are music, history, politics and food. Though I'm pretty "trendy" at the same time Yes definately failing but not sure if it's me or Portsmouth! I definately think I'm a well rounded dude. But it seems it's the geezer types/bar staff clique who are getting most of the women. Where are you based? MANY THANKS, SIMON |
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| Author: | EnsoNytes [ Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Portsmouth? Having no notable success here. |
I'm out in the southwest U.S. Daygame is solid. I recommend coffee shops, super markets (especially organic), shopping malls. Quote: But it seems it's the geezer types/bar staff clique who are getting most of the women.
I can't speak for your city, but I know in my nightlife scene it pays dividends to work in the industry. This is the thing that guys who just study pick up don't understand about bars and clubs. Bartenders promoters and owners in the nightlife industry DONT NEED PICK UP. They get laid all the time because they have the most social value in that context. My point, is that you have to run game where you hold the most social value, wherever that may be. If you don't currently have any value in any social settings, then you have to create it. I personally became a club promoter. Promoters know everyone and can get people drinks for free. After I became a promoter, girls started coming to me. You don't have to deal with nightlife if you don't want to though. Most guys do night game for the main purpose of having a lot of foot traffic to work with. A lot of the mainstream population will go out to bars and clubs, so naturally there are a lot of opportunities. The thing that guys don't understand, is that the "4 set" they spot across the bar probably came to that venue to meet the bartender that hooks them up every weekend. It's about who you know. |
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| Author: | BittyBanger [ Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Portsmouth? Having no notable success here. |
Yooooo i was in middletown today bro. Or newport whatever the fuck its called man same island right idk im a canadian tourist. I was at first beach, second beach; the nice little city. There was pusssssssy everywhere wtf are u saying bruh? Bang dem broads. And dont take me as an expert ive only fucked once but like i said all i saw was young pussy(im 19 tho) and i was telling myself im moving here one day do you honestly advise against it? |
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| Author: | RockstarPUA [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Portsmouth? Having no notable success here. |
Hey dude, i know portsmouth well, I went to uni there for 5 years. I have a couple of theories but first tell me some information: 1. What clubs do you hit and on what nights? 2. Of these places, where do you get more success/ less success? 3. What time of year do you get more/less success I may have some insights and suggestions for you |
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| Author: | TROLLO [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Portsmouth? Having no notable success here. |
Quote: Hey dude, i know portsmouth well, I went to uni there for 5 years. I have a couple of theories but first tell me some information:
Sure tend to focus on weekends as I'm 33 and clientelle during the week is too young for me, circa 18/191. What clubs do you hit and on what nights? 2. Of these places, where do you get more success/ less success? 3. What time of year do you get more/less success I may have some insights and suggestions for you No real place I get more success, I tend to goto Dog/Wedge/Vaults Not really season related though it's so hot in many places I'm a little concious of this. What's your theories mate? |
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| Author: | RockstarPUA [ Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Portsmouth? Having no notable success here. |
Hmm to be honest that discounts my theory lol. My theory was that going out during the week means, like you said a lot of younger girls, mainly students who, are generally told to stay away from the locals. in fact on my first day at uni we had an orientation lecture, and the boys were encouraged to stay away from the local girls and the girls to stay away from local men, due to the high amount of military. Also I was going to suggest to go to albert road places rather than the bigger clubs because those are just full of scumbags lol. So really you are doing the things I would have suggested, so I cant really help mate, sorry. I hope you figure it out eventually. |
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| Author: | Chassidko [ Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Portsmouth? Having no notable success here. |
Quote: Hmm to be honest that discounts my theory lol. My theory was that going out during the week means, like you said a lot of younger girls, mainly students who, are generally told to stay away from the locals. in fact on my first day at uni we had an orientation lecture, and the boys were encouraged to stay away from the local girls and the girls to stay away from local men, due to the high amount of military.
I would agree Palmerstone road's also good I've found and the clubs especially Guildhall...yuk stay clear if fuzzy duck lol
Also I was going to suggest to go to albert road places rather than the bigger clubs because those are just full of scumbags lol. So really you are doing the things I would have suggested, so I cant really help mate, sorry. I hope you figure it out eventually. |
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