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Author:  50ShadesOfDance [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Partner dance game... developing technique to always f-close
Guys, this is a post that I will be continually adding to as I develop this highly situation-specific game. If you are interested in the amazing possibilities that partner dancing offers for getting laid, read on and keep following this post.

A long time ago I got into partner dancing (aka "social dance") as a way to meet women. In womens' minds, dancing is strongly correlated with sex... dancing with a woman in your arms can be seen as an extended version of foreplay, in a way that it often isn't at a club where a girl is grinding with you on the dance floor. Several advantages to partner dancing:
  • Girls love it... there are usually more girls than guys at dance events, and they are eager to be asked out onto the dance floor for a dance.
  • It offers instant isolation... you can go up to a group of girls talking to each other and just single out the one you want and say "Hey there, I'd love to dance with you... you ready?" and take her to the floor. Her friends won't mind at all... there's no cock-blocking, and they'll be on your side if it's clear you're showing their girlfriend a good time.
  • You have all kinds of chances to use kino and escalate (you have to be subtle, in the way that Gambler recommends, but it's easy to do).
  • Because in a woman's mind "dancing = sex", just dancing with you is going to turn her on if you're good at leading.
  • You don't have to know a lot of moves, you just have to learn to lead properly, which is great practice for leading a woman in everyday life. In fact, girls often PREFER a guy who turns them less and leads them better.
  • You have lots of chances to talk and game your partner.
Basically, it's all good, and women WANT you to do it. Plus, I really enjoy it. I've gotten good at basic swing/jitterbug, plus I dance country and salsa. Other cool styles are blues and bachata, which are HIGHLY sexual and which are also highly popular with women.

So my objective now is to really work the partner dance thing into an amazing tool to get women into bed THAT SAME NIGHT... I have often gotten signals from girls that they want this, but I have never been good at translating this kind of IOI into bedroom action.

So, my posts in this thread will focus on specific stages in the seduction process... from entering the dance hall to approach to the first steps on the floor... all the way to getting her to buy in to going home with me. I am going to break things down into little pieces, and study each stage of the process in-depth.

This is primarily for my own benefit... I want to get better at this. If you guys find it interesting and useful, so much the better!

Cheers, ~50
Author:  50ShadesOfDance [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Entering the dance hall
I'm going to focus on dance schools and community centers in this post.

Just as good PUAs always are careful with their entry into a club, the same applies to a dance hall. Social dance places are frequently less "style-obsessed" than your average bar or club, so you can get away with more.

Dance halls come in all types. Frequently they are dedicated dance places where they give lessons, or else they can be community centers or theaters where dance bands come to play. Sometimes they are bars or restaurants with a dance floor, but I'll talk about those places in another post.

On entering, I adopt a friendly, outgoing manner. I dress up nicely, but not too fancy (no peacocking here, it really looks weird and turns girls off). As soon as I come in, I start talking in a casual way with everybody that's there, INCLUDING the girls I am eventually going to hit on. Dance halls are casual, friendly places, so the usual laser-focus on particular girls that works in a club or in day game will backfire here. The women want to see you as being comfortable and integrated into the scene.

When I initially talk to the women I am theoretically interested in taking to bed, I am friendly, a bit flirtatious and fun, but nothing serious. It is important to be known to a number of women before the music starts... you can talk up the prettiest girls or you can talk to the event organizers, either one girls you social proof. I don't spend too much time talking to any one girl, because it's seen as weird to really focus on a single woman so early... that comes naturally at the end of the evening.

I need to work on this part of the evening... I need to integrate more cocky and funny into my interactions with the girl(s) I am interested in, get her laughing and talking, and using some subtle kino. I am thinking about trying to ask the girl I am talking to to try out a couple of moves with me without there being any music playing... that way she can get used to my touch and my company and my flirtatious nature. I will then leave her and return to talking to the other people I have been talking with, just to show her I am popular and wanted. I will leave her with the warning that "she'd better reserve the best dances for me, we're going to have fun tonight!"

I am also going to work on my body language... posture in general, open body when I am talking to girls, looking into girls' eyes when talking, smiling a lot more than is easy for me.

Will report back on how this goes...

Cheers, ~50
Author:  Bond-007 [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Partner dance game... developing technique to always f-c
Hi there!

Do you have any good material on social dancing? Perhaps some youtube vids or from other site.

Truth is I suck at dancing and I agree a lot with you about women and dancing, besides in my country (Uruguay), dancers practice other styles of dancing like salsa, tango and bachata. I`m not into that, I always wanted a pick up dance, social seems to be the thing I`m looking for and aiming to practice.

I need something that`s sexual, but I`m not into taking it as seriously like compiting or such, I want it to get girls interested.

Women love a man who knows how to dance.
Author:  50ShadesOfDance [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Partner dance game... developing technique to always f-c
Quote:
Hi there!

Do you have any good material on social dancing? Perhaps some youtube vids or from other site.

Truth is I suck at dancing and I agree a lot with you about women and dancing, besides in my country (Uruguay), dancers practice other styles of dancing like salsa, tango and bachata. I`m not into that, I always wanted a pick up dance, social seems to be the thing I`m looking for and aiming to practice.

I need something that`s sexual, but I`m not into taking it as seriously like compiting or such, I want it to get girls interested.

Women love a man who knows how to dance.
Ché pibe, sos uruguasho, ¿eh? Pues bienvenido al foro...

Salsa, bachata and tango are precisely the kind of dancing I'm talking about... these are dances where you hold the woman in your arms and have her undivided attention for long periods of time. This is the kind of dancing where I am looking to develop strong game.

I don't know any tango, it's too bloody difficult and there aren't any places to do it in my town (in Arizona). But we do have salsa and bachata. Both of these are excellent, sensual dances that are great for seducing women. I particularly like bachata because it is strongly sexual... if you have never danced it then you should try. It's also a slower dance, that gives you more time to talk to the woman. Salsa is typically a fast dance, and it requires you to be able to sexual body language a lot, since it isn't as easy to talk to the woman (at least for me, maybe for the salsa experts it is).

There probably aren't many other types of social dance in Uruguay... in the U.S. we have swing, waltz, country and blues as popular dances which are great for seduction, in addition to the ever-popular Latin-Caribbean dances you've already mentioned.

¡Que no seas voludo, siguí posteando aquí, eh! Queremos saber cómo te va.

Cheers, ~50
Author:  50ShadesOfDance [ Mon May 06, 2013 7:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Techniques to get the girl to say Yes to my company post-dan
As always, the real world is a more difficult place than my own thoughts and plans would let on.

Here are some issues that I've been facing when dancing at a country bar, and the solutions I've come up with.
  • Groups of 3 or more girls tend to huddle up and not be looking around, so it's hard to catch the eye of the one I want to talk to. It usually works, though, just to walk up behind the one I want to ask to dance, put my hand casually on her back, and then when she turns around ask her if she wants to dance.
  • Two girls together will often spend more time looking around, but sometimes they'll be involved in conversation, in which case I have to stand and wait to get their attention. I just cheerfully said hello to their girl I want, once she looks at me, or if she continues to ignore me, I put my hand on her shoulder. I've found if I maintain a very positive energy, girls will usually say yes to dancing.
  • The big problem with partner dancing is that girls are used to being asked to dance a lot, but they see it as something secondary to being with their friends. It's not that they don't want to meet guys, but they also don't want their friend(s) to feel abandoned. So, girls will usually not want to dance more than one or two dances before returning to their friends.
  • I originally tried the very AFC move of asking a girl, after a dance or two, if I could buy her a drink. This almost always results in a NO (if a girl says Yes, she's making a definite commitment to me, which she'll have to defend to herself and to her friend(s), and which often freaks her out). In order to solve this problem, I've developed the technique of asking the girl to introduce me to her friend(s). I say "Introduce me to your friend... that way I can take turns taking you both onto the floor to dance". This is a much easier thing for a girl to accept, especially if I say "Now that you've met such a great dancer, you should share with your friends!"
Author:  50ShadesOfDance [ Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:13 am ]
Post subject:  Blues dancing... the ultimate # close venue
Brothers,

After trying a number of venues to meet women, I finally stumbled upon blues dancing, which has been AWESOME. If you haven't heard about blues dancing, here's what you need to know... it basically involves pulling the woman close into you and grinding your pelvises together in time to the music. Well, almost... a lot of the dance is about inter-partner communication, fun connection with the music and playful turns and stuff. But, the pelvis grinding is definitely part of it, and the girls frickin' love it!

Not every woman that pelvis-grinds you is going to want to f*ck, but you can gauge the state of attraction of the woman by how much she is smiling (somehow blues dancing brings out the smiles in women) and how comfortable she is in moving with you when you have her in close embrace.

I've found that if I get these cues, I can always #-close the girl. This isn't quite the f-close I am looking for, but I am working on that. In the meantime, when I take these girls out I can then run game on them in private, which I am getting better at, and have f-closed on the followup date.

So look around your town and find out if there are any blues dance groups. Blues is really easy to dance to... you don't need any prior instruction and you'll be doing fine after one night. And the girls that go are really cool... they're smart, well-dressed and fun. What are you waiting for?
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