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Author:  rahulsingh [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Journey -- Fun or Tesnion ???
After long time I started game...

Sorry i was caught in facebook world , just realized its not that worth not wasting time .

So here i begun :

Today I went to mall (Malls are only place i have right now) .


After i entered in mall didn't see any real set so i went to ladies cloth shop .

There i saw two girls checking some footware .

Me: Hi,
G1: Yes
Me: I need you suggestion , I have my cousine sis's B'day tomorrow and I want to buy gift for her.
G1:Buy some cloth .
Me:Like explain in detail bit . She is bit taller than you and your skin tone only
G1:What is like to wear , like western or indian .
Me: She like all cloths
G1: Any special preference she has ?
Me: No , she is just normal girl like you . Why don't you come and guide me (pointing towards cloths)
G1: Actully i don't have right now . So u check by you own
Me: Ok thanks.

This is how it went:
Mistakes I realized :
1) My voice tonality was not up to mark
2) Never involved second girl in talk
3) Failed to make conversation flow.
4) Still no real try of transition



Before I did second approach , I really show i beautiful girl .
But never could approach her , my AA got better of me.

After some time , I show to chicks entering mall when I was on 1st floor of mall.
I waited for them on first floor .
After while they came up ,so i decide to walk in opposite direction to them.

When they came close:

Me: Hey .
(They ignored and moved bit ahead)
Me:Hey , excuse me , i need your suggestion .
G1:yes
Me:I have my cousine sis's B'day tomorrow and I want to buy gift for her.
G1:Ok , you can by alot of stuff for her.
Me: Say something in detail . I mean u guys look like sis , same face expression .
G1: No no we are friends
Me Looking toward G2) U can also share you idea, don't give generalize answer I want to know in detail as you girls are good at understanding this.
G2: U can buy anything like blah blah stuff
Me: like give some details
(I noticed G1 texting on phone)
Me:Texting your BF ... (Smiling)
G1: I don't have BF OK (With attitude)
Me:Our discussion is gift not your BF(With fake laugh) .so lets continue it.
G1: So can we go now?
Me: Ok no issue. Bye.

Mistakes:
1) I was kind of stalker.
2) Never tried realizing what mood or frame of mind girls are getting in to.
3) No knowing yet how to tease playfully
4) Too weak body language
Author:  rahulsingh [ Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Journey -- Fun or Tesnion ???
Its my 2nd Field report now ..


Short about today ... IT WAS SUPER SUNDAY

I was at this mall again .

Approach 1 :

Show two cute girls coming out of one brand's show room :

ME: Hey , i need you opinion , i have friend of mine whos b'day is tomorrow and i want to buy gift
G1: Ok ..
Me:So i need you opinion , but first tell me are u sisters or what .
G1: No no , why think so
Metrying to engage G2 in convo) Sach me , u guys have same expression
G2:No we are friends
G1:No body has told us that we are sisters.
Me:Its not b'coz of you looks but you facial expression . See u smile together
G1& G2: Ha ha ha
Me: See i told u , u have same expression.
G1: No no we are friends
Me: As u may wonder why i asked this question to u so let me tell u.
Me: As i m working now friends expect me to buy better gift not just something like teddy or kitchen ( I feel this was DHV , so i said)
G1:you can buy dress for her
Me:i expect better answer from you .
Me: You both look good , ur dressing is cute. Girls are good looking there is nothing special in it ( It was neg as per me)
Me: But u have good dressing sense
G1:There are some good dresses available
G2:U can buy a cute from from that shop.
Me:why dont u come and show me , i m not expert in this stuff
G1:Actually we are getting late
Me:No issue its fine by the way whats you name ?
G1: Me G1 and she is G2.
Me: (to G1) I had friend of same name ..
Me to G2) I think you name is brand of sari
G2:Ya it is.
(At this point I didn't knew what to talk )
Me:So thanks for advice G1 and G2( There was formal handshake )
Me: Bye
G1&G2:Bye.

Faults :
1) Still didn't engage both target in convo
2)Still transition issue is there
3) NO FTC( False time constraint)
4) Didn't knew how to take lead in convo , didn't have material to keep convo going
5)No being funny ( and probably cocky )

Approach 2:
I saw i hot girl kind of running and and fastly going downsatir
I was telling myself approach , approach approach
Finlay I did though i knew she was in hurry .

Me: Hey , i need you suggestion
G1:Actually i m in hurry
Me:No probs give me 2 mins
G1: Ok
Me:....( Ran again same opner)
She:blah blah blah
Me:Why i am sking u this coz u look good and seem to have good dressing sense
G1:(smiled) then blah blah . I m getting late
Me:what is actually reason for that
G1:I have class
Me:ohh what class
G1:its of study
Me:u don't look like studious girl to me
G1: (smiled)
Me:whats you name
G1: its G1
Me:Thanks G1(Handshake ) Bye
G1:Bye( Then see literally ran off . she was getting late in real )

Problems:
I don't want to judge myself for this approach .


Approach 3:
I had seen this group sitting in food zone before as well , I should have approached before to avoid looking creepy.

I thought it was 2 set turned out it had 4 members all girls

Me: I need you suggestion
G1: Ok what
Me: Can i sit here
( they all adjust on this long bench to create a place for me to sit)
Me: Ran opener
G2: For whom you want to buy
Me: Gor a friend
G2: If it was GF I would have told many good idea
Me:No she is friend
G1: we need to think on it
Me: Sure ,
Me:( to G1) while they think i want ask u a personal question
G1:what
Me: the thing u are wearing in neck , does it indicate like are u married
G1: No no
Me: What is show coz u and g3 both are wearing
G1: We like it thats why we wear
Me: I thought it was modern day mangal-sutra
Me:( to G3) why u look down
G1: G3 is ill
Me: ok ok . why don't u come and show me x thing
( then G1 and G2 discussed something )
G1: That thing there u see i m talking of it
Me:it would be nice if come along
Me:( to group) can i steal your friend for a while
G2:if u have gf i can say lot of thing
Me: assume she is gf..
G2:blah blah blah
Me:Ok wahts your name.
G1: I am G1 , she is G2 and she is G3
Me:Ok bye bye
(Tried to give hand-shake but failed)




Faults :
1) Didn't engage all targets in group, G4 never even came into picture
2)Still transition material missin
3) NO FTC( False time constraint)
4) Failed to real chick logic
5)No being funny and taking lead
Author:  rahulsingh [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Journey -- Fun or Tesnion ???
Thanks to this community i m learning to convert negative things to opportunity .

Today i was all set to meet a girl at coffee shop whom i met on FB.

We had decided fix time to meet but she never showed up ...I was there alone waiting for her .. She never showed up .

Had I was not in this community I would have been depressed starting to have self doubt .

But not this time.. I told my sefl ... chal yaar koi nai hota ye sab ... apne ko kush karne ke liye kuch kar

So after scanning area and waiting for targets,

I opened a three set ..

Me: I need your opinion ...than ran my opener ..
G1: Ok .
Me:Hey lets get aside , we are standing in path way
(All 3 come along to a side with me)
Me:u look confused , tell me your names
G1: I am G1
G2: I am G2
G3: I am G3
(I noticed G1 who was hotter in all was playing tough for me, so i decided to ignore her for while to lower her ego)
Me to G2 and G3) Let say tomorrow is b'day for G1 what gift u buy ?)
(G2&G3 looking at G1 and kind of asking)
Me:Hey this is cheating ..
(Then I grabbed G2 and G3 by hand and pulled aside saying come this was u are not allowed to talk)
G2 & G3: buy this ,buy that (Both where having fun ...laughing .. enjoying)
I note that G1 had gone disinterested ...Starting playing with cell.. standing 5 feet away from us
Me i knew that this was bit too much ignoring) (To G1) hey come aside , I was joking u can give you idea
G1&G2: We need to go now our friend is waiting to give as assignment
Me: Oh what u do ..
G2: I study X course
Me:Ok bye then (G1 was showing too much resistance and wanting to go)


Issue:
1) Still not confidently opening
2) Seems my mind is to much focused on opening to transition , and loosing track of plot
3) Still not enjoying the moment seem like I am on mission or something
4) Not relaxed and loud when talking

Good thing:
1) I made a courage to have kino by grabbing girls by there arm

--- Update ---

Thanks to this community i m learning to convert negative things to opportunity .

Today i was all set to meet a girl at coffee shop whom i met on FB.

We had decided fix time to meet but she never showed up ...I was there alone waiting for her .. She never showed up .

Had I was not in this community I would have been depressed starting to have self doubt .

But not this time.. I told my sefl ... chal yaar koi nai hota ye sab ... apne ko kush karne ke liye kuch kar

So after scanning area and waiting for targets,

I opened a three set ..

Me: I need your opinion ...than ran my opener ..
G1: Ok .
Me:Hey lets get aside , we are standing in path way
(All 3 come along to a side with me)
Me:u look confused , tell me your names
G1: I am G1
G2: I am G2
G3: I am G3
(I noticed G1 who was hotter in all was playing tough for me, so i decided to ignore her for while to lower her ego)
Me to G2 and G3) Let say tomorrow is b'day for G1 what gift u buy ?)
(G2&G3 looking at G1 and kind of asking)
Me:Hey this is cheating ..
(Then I grabbed G2 and G3 by hand and pulled aside saying come this was u are not allowed to talk)
G2 & G3: buy this ,buy that (Both where having fun ...laughing .. enjoying)
I note that G1 had gone disinterested ...Starting playing with cell.. standing 5 feet away from us
Me i knew that this was bit too much ignoring) (To G1) hey come aside , I was joking u can give you idea
G1&G2: We need to go now our friend is waiting to give as assignment
Me: Oh what u do ..
G2: I study X course
Me:Ok bye then (G1 was showing too much resistance and wanting to go)


Issue:
1) Still not confidently opening
2) Seems my mind is to much focused on opening to transition , and loosing track of plot
3) Still not enjoying the moment seem like I am on mission or something
4) Not relaxed and loud when talking

Good thing:
1) I made a courage to have kino by grabbing girls by there arm
Author:  rahulsingh [ Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Journey -- Fun or Tesnion ???
Today is Sunday .. A person who would not leave his bed before 11 was in field by 10.

Approach 1 :
This was done done at 10 AM in a market where 70% shops were closed .
This is amazing , i went to new place in city to explore rather than just going to mall .
After chickening out on 4 set , twice actually on same set I managed to see a 2 set coming out of shop:

Me: Is this your shop
G1: NO.
Me:I want to buy a gift ... (my only opener)
G1:Today is Sunday almost all shop closed.
Me:yeah what u suggest .
G1:Actually we are also searching for cloths .
Me:Ok (I didn't knew what to say next, mind blanked)
Me After 5 sec pause) Thanks.. bye bye .


Approach 2:

I was in mall .
Show two girls sitting on bench one on phone on idle .

I walked towards them.

Me: Hey I want to ask u something (Ran .. my opener)
G1: (after discussing with G2) buy watch
Me:hey thats cheating (To G2.. go away and talk ,she goes away)
G2:u can buy t shirt
Me:Ohh buy the way from your bag i can say u are students right ?
G1:yes
Me: what u study
G1: i m doing this
Me:Ohh which college
G1:college X
Me A this point i didn't have anything to say) So u said t shirt , which type
G1: Blah blah blah
Me: thanks bye


Approach 3 :
At this time i was feeling good bout me
Show two girls checking cloths on women section.

Me: (Ran opnener)
G1: buy blah blah
Me: dont be just giving lame answer ok tell me whats ur name
G1: what
Me: Ohh u dont know u r name (Ha ha ha)
G1: I am G1
Me: and u ..
G2:Me g2
me: u are not giving good idea (Hold them from shoulder and push them apart. Kino)
Me: no i have two mind to give idea ..
G2: buy that blah blah
G1: take her to candle light dinner
Me: I wish she was u , then i could have taken u to candle light dinner (This is amazing man , never told stranger girl this)
G2:u can try this that
Me: Ohh thats cool idea , bye the way u r earing is cool..
G2:yeah its gold .
Me:How would i know that ..
G1:no its gold , and sat down on sofa near bye
G2:its real. now we are getting late we need to go
Me: ok bbye
G1&G2:Bbye

Approach 4 :

I was going upwards in mall after parking bike
On stair i show two set

Me: I want your opinion but tell me one thing first
G1:what?
M1:are u sisters or friend ?
G1:Sisters ...
Me: ran opener
G1:blah blah blah
Me:thanks bye


Approach 5:
I was riding bike:

Me: do u know any gift shop here
G1:No we dnt know
Me:Ok bye


Pros:
1) I left my comfort zone and approached in street and and road
2) Tried to use slow and loud voice (I know i failed but i tried)

Cons:
1) No transition .
2) Ejected in 3 of the approaches.
3) no voice tonality or body language part is fixed yet
4) using opener which is hard to transit
Author:  rahulsingh [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Journey -- Fun or Tesnion ???
Well today I made 5 approaches in total till now.

Approach 1 : 2 set

Me: I want buy gift.....blah blah
G1:Do u want buy it from here ?
Me: Not necessarly from here.
G1:U can buy dress
Me: i mean tell me , who are u both ..
G1 : We are sisters
Me: cool ur name ( to G1)
G1:I am G1
Me: and u ?
G2: I am G2
Me: ( to G1) Suppose u want to give gift to G1 what u give
G1: A dress ., top etc
Me: what dont u show me cloths here
(We go to cloths shop )
G1: ( checks cloths & picks some thing) this is good blah blah
Me: I noted that u have been wearing unique thing in nose
G1:yes blah blah
Me: what u did ?
G1: I studies X couse
Me: finished ?
G1: yes now i want to do y course
Me: good thats good
G1: we are getting late , we need to go now
Me: Ok bbye


Approach 2:
Show to 4 girls entering shop , after while they came out and 2 of them went in one direction and another two towards second exit
Went after them

me: hey i want to ask u one question
G1: what
Me: i have have friends birdday .. blah blah
(Girls looked confused)
G1: actually we are getting late ..
Me: Dont worry .. papa band nai bajayenge
G1:lauged
G2: We are getting late .. u ask some one else
Me: Ok bye bye

Approach 3:

Chased 2 girls out of mall after stalking them for 10 min

Me: I want buy gift blah blah ....
G1:buy that ..blah blha
Me:hey one thing why u cover ur face like this.. to protect it from Sun or boys apke na dekh paye ?
G2: laughed no no sun
(there face were now covered so lost charm of talking )
Me: i m in hurry so i need to go now bbye


Approach 4: Best approach of the day

Show a lone girl

Me: i want buy gift for firend
G1:Ok bye that this
Me: why dont u show something to me
(We go to shop)
G1: this is good etc etc
Me:what u do ?
G1: i study this u ? ( this is good chance i sensed it , but didn't knew how to proceed)
Me: i m X professional , u look sad why ( tried cold reading )
G1: no no nothing like that , today i m shoping alone not with friends
Me: U miss your BF ok ( with smile )
G1: NO NO i dont have BF , tried showing some cloths to me
(Then we got out of shop we talked about good cloth shops in city for 3-4 min more)
G1:Ok i need to go now
Me: bbbye

Approach 5:
I was on bike returning show too girls .
Me: Do u know any gift shop around ?
G1: Stopped the scooty and asked G1 about it.
(they talked with me about direction , i didn't knew what to say next)
Me: thanks bbye

Problems:

1) I have recorded one of approaches on cell mic .. man i suck while talking voice wise
2) Loose body language
3) No holding conversation , not able to transition
4) Failing to think situation at moment

Goodies:
I have made 10 approaches in last 2 days , getting easy for me to approach now, getting comfortable with opening
Author:  rahulsingh [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Journey -- Fun or Tesnion ???
3 more approaches for day :

Approach 6:
Show to set sitting and having some snack

Did my gift opener ...
Had good response from a girl who was actully married
I transited to cultural talk when actully i knew i was feeling uncomfortable and wanted to return back to opener
Talked with G2 for while as well.
Ended up getting facebook ID. little consolation for hard days work i guess
I ejected as i ran out of things to say

Approach 7:
Show 3 girls talking ...
I turned my bike around and asked the direction , they showed direction
I didn't knew what to say so ejected

Approach 7:
Again did direction opener and got direction .
Letter i tried to ask name but got mean response .


Thats it for day .

Myth broken was: i could not approach while on bike
Author:  rahulsingh [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Journey -- Fun or Tesnion ???
Well after 2 times again chucking out and not able to be real direct I changed mode to semi direct (Half assing)

Brief summary about todays sets:

1) Total Sets opened 6.

2) I opneded with line I want to buy gift ...and instead of giving reason of female opinion , I told my reason was that I found them cute/well dressed so I could have answer from them .

3) 3 of those sets had HB8 and HB9.. I managed to open them without fear.

4) Twise I tried nagging HB8/9 of the set by telling u look older than other girl , boom after that nagging they asked me to ask so lession lernt , never neg about age.

5) Twise I complemented girl as if they look like models . Nothing happened they smiled .

6) Positive was I didn't miss single set today once I decided to go semi direct

Improvement :
1) Work on tonality and body language , 3 of those approaches were audio recorded , I have very low energy and very shaky voice while talking .
2) Need to improve on body language
3) Now really need to learn cold reading
4) Next target is to be direct super and hold convo for at least 5 min .
Author:  rahulsingh [ Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Journey -- Fun or Tesnion ???
Today I tried few different things . Today was day I was really low

Total Sets tried to open : 8
Total sets responding to open: 5
Total Set Hooked for more than 5 min :1

Set with different tactic :
Me: (On bike show a girl covering her face up) Muze pagal mat samzna .
G1: kyun ?
Me: Mai apko ajib sa saval puchne wala huin , why are u covering face in evening ?
G1:Are wo to maine skin SPAM karvai hai
Me:Apko pich baithe hai wo kon hai , sister ?
G1: Ya wo meri sister hai
Me: Unho ne nai cover kiya ... Aisa to kuch nai ki make up kharab ho jaye and all ...
G1:Nahi nahi aisa kuch nahi
Me:OK bye

Then 2 nd set was total loss... They didn't respond to opening

Set: (2 Girs in mall)
Me:I want to ask u question
G1:Ok
Me: I have friends b'day coming 2 days after I was confused about which gift to buy
G1:How can we say , we dont know her choice
Me:Oh i thought u are well dress so u will be having better Idea
G1:Go upstairs there good cloths
Me:Ok , any better Idea
G1: We are actually buying stuff
Me:Ohh and what do u do
G1; I m doing b.com and she is doing B.ed
ME (Looking at G2) : Let me go away from u , I am afraid up of teacher
G1:She is having marriage in Month
Me Shaking hands with G2) congrats
G1:Mine is after 3 months.
Me:COngrats
Then we talked about their home town and their hubbies
It was good talk but when I tried for number close they chickened out and asked my number
I tried trick of saying I do only missed calls not direct numbers but failed
Ended up getting FB ID (Lame I know)
But this was first set , in all my around 40 approaches where talk went up to number

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Rest Sets are not worth noting
I manage to scare a girl.. LOL
Talked with a foreign girl , ended up talking more with her Indian old age teacher

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Wats notable is out of 8 , in 3 sets i didn't use my gift owner and still managed to hook 2 of them
In fact my gift opener failed 3 out of 5 times today , strange
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