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Author:  Persuazn [ Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Club makeout + # close + Day 2 setup

Last saturday, I had one of my more successful sarges. It started at a bar, then a club, then a late night food run. The important elements that made this a successful sarge are as follows:

- Importance of state
- 93% of communication is nonverbal (body language, eye contact, etc)
- Playful banter
- SOI (statement of intent)
- Frame control
- Closing
- Phone game

I am beginning to incorporate more and more Juggler Method in my game, so please keep that in mind.

I was so frickin psyched that UCLA beat USC last saturday, and it definitely put me and my friends in a great state. While at the bar, got into a social mood and warmed up with some sorority girls. I knew one of the girls and just said hello. Nothing much going there, so the group wrapped up and headed to the club.

I knew most of the girls in our group, so we all started off dancing as one big group. I noticed that there was this one girl with us who I had never met before, a really cute indian girl. Now this is where things really begin to take off.

By dancing with all of the girls, I didn't show any preference or interest in any one girl. Because of that, I came off non threatening. I wasn't grinding the girls in a desperate or molesting way, but rather more joking and having fun.

But when I got around to dancing with HBIndian, I noticed she had these amazing green eyes. We locked eyes and I just held it, smiling just a little bit. In Juggler's e-book, he writes that grinding is no big deal for a girl. It's like making out for them. Instead, he suggests to hold their hands and demonstrate sensuality through hand holding.

So as we're dancing, I gently take her hands and interlock my fingers with hers. Imagine you were just standing with your hands behind your back. That's how I was holding her so that her hands were pinned behind her back. Again, the key here was that even though all the lights were green for me to grab a little ass or titty, I kept my cool and just kept eye contact and heightened the sexual tension as we swayed to the music.

A big part the Juggler Method is to SOI at high points in the interaction. So as I was staring into her eyes, I tell her "the way you move is so sexy, I can't stand it." And as I pushed her away and took a step back, I said, "but don't get a big head about it." Of course I had a big smile of my face and I winked at her as I said this.

You guys know that wide eyed jaw dropping face a girl makes when she is shocked in an unexpected way? Yup, that's what her face said right after this. So she comes up to me and grabs me to dance with her more.

Again, I go for her hands and by this time, she knows that I want to hold her hands and is caressing my hands back. I pull her really close to me and our faces are really close. I'm just smiling because she knows I want to kiss her and I know she wants to kiss me.

It's like in "Hitch," you go 90% of the way and let her come the last 10% for the kiss. Even though my body wanted to grab her and dry hump her right there on the dance floor, I kept my cool and kissed her...very...slowly...and sensually. No tongue ramming, but still very sexy.

Keep in mind that up till now, I hadn't had a coversation more than "Hi, I'm Persuazn, what's your name?" So were dancing, making out, dancing, making out...oh yeah I forgot, when I went in for that first kiss, I made sure that we were out of sight of our group. I didn't want her feeling like an exhibitionist in front of her peers. If she wanted to molest me later, cool.

I also made sure to keep the role playing of her being a seductress. As we would dance, I'd pull her in really close and say, "omg, this is soooo hot," and push her away teasingly while saying, "you are sooo BAD. I can't believe how naughty you are!"

And she was loving it.

My only mistake was that I didn't isolate to qualify. After the club, I just said that I had a ton of fun and that I wanted to see her again. She smiled and said she wanted to as well. I didn't make getting the number the end all be all. After she gave me her number, I suggested we go grab something to eat. Ran some comfort/rapport, but because it was in such a social environment, I couldn't isolate to qualify.

I ended the night with a nice little kiss and goodbye because I had to take my buddies home.

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I called her up three days later but got the VM. I left a message and she called back two days later. She apologized for not calling sooner and she said she felt bad.

I immediately started busting her balls saying how I was just about to delete her contact info from my phone. She started laughing at that. Perfect, I wanted to bring her back to that playful role playing vibe we had in the club. She asked if I had fun that night at the club.

Persuazn: Actually, you know what? There was this really weird girl who kept trying to dance with me. She was a terrible dancer but I felt kind of sorry so I felt obliged to babysit her.
HBIndian: Yeah, me too. I met this really creepy, sweaty guy who moved like a robot and who kept trying to kiss me all night.
Persuazn: God I hope he didn't have bad breath.

She has a great sense of humor and didn't take any of my shit. What was great was that I didn't have to entertain her or provide most of the conversation. She was just as into it as I was.

She asked what I was doing this weekend (IOI). I told her I was busy as heck and she said her too. I asked her when we could go out again and she suggested next weekend. I said cool and that I'd talk to her this weekend.

I'm planning to build rapport and comfort this next phone conversation. Hopefully, my next FR will be a lay report.

Have a good weekend fellas.

Author:  Zenit [ Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:49 pm ]
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nice use of the Juggler method. I have just finished reading Juggler`s book and feels he provides good advices and it is more natural than MM even if MM is by far the best in structure. I am working now in trying to use MM structure but incorporating some Juggler`s stuff

Author:  jacked [ Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:07 am ]
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She asked what I was doing this weekend (IOI). I told her I was busy as heck and she said her too. I asked her when we could go out again and she suggested next weekend. I said cool and that I'd talk to her this weekend.
Goodluck budd. Too much time open for her to meet another dude and forget you. At least don't look like you want a date with her, make it look like she can tag along with you to something you already had planned on going. Like Shopping, museum (ohhh this cool exhibit just came of mummies), something interesting that you are doing next phone call that she would probably want to invite herself too without any threat of sexual tension. Don't ask her to come with you bro, just sound enthusiastic about what you want to do, and she will most likely say damn I want to go, I want to go, I want to go... You know that stupid spoiled childish attitude girls love to display.

Author:  Persuazn [ Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Day 2 flaked

Arggghhh!!! The dreaded flake reared it's ugly head again. However, she texted me yesterday to ask how my weekend was. Here's the transcript:

HER: Hey! How was ur weekend? Mine was quick like always…Sucks to be back at work
ME: Totally awesome. My lil bro flew in sat nt. Sunday we ate like pigs all day and then watched the new James Bond movie. My brother snores so I am sleep deprived.
HER: Awww! U shoulda came to my bed I woulda let you sleep peacefully ;)
ME: If I were in your bed, neither of us would have gotten any sleep…(wink)
HER: Dirty, dirty! ;)
ME: OMG, get your mind out of the gutter, you naughty girl. I toss and turn, hog the sheets, and radiate heat like a hot potato so you wouldn’t sleep a wink ;P
HER: That’s exactly what I was thinking! Whose mind was in the gutter?!?! Haha…
ME: I can’t believe what a little flirt you are…all talking about your bed…I kind of like it.

That's some good advice, Jacked. I'll keep that in mind next time I'm on the phone with her. Everytime i've had an opportunity to text her, there's always been this underlying sexual tension like the convo above. You're right in bringing up an activity w/o the threat of sexual tension. Even though she's been primed and is comfortable with my flirting, it's always good to change it up and not make it all about hooking up. Nice call.

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