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Author:  J-Dark [ Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:16 pm ]
Post subject:  FU - Report. Approaching HB5 and HB9 in Liverpool
Hallo !

Okey, first I am from Norway, so I have to excuse my English.
This is one of my first Sets I approach after starting my travel to becoma a PUA. After this FU, you will problably notice that it is a goal, not a reality.

To the fuck up report.

Okey, I am 20 years old, so I went to this student place. I walked to the quiet area of the club, smiling, chatting with my friends and tried to look "Happy go lucky". Then i see two girls, a HB5 and a HB9. Walked past them, and opened them over the shoulder:

ME: Hi, I need a female opinion ---- blabla

I turned my body towards the HB5, but the HB9 is the target (of course ;-p) So my body language said that I didn`t care about the HB9. But only for the first maybe 2 minutes , then I turned to the HB9, and heard what she had to say, but didn`t pay much attention. After they said theirs opinion, some smallchat came up. They asked me where I came from etc. But this HB9 still had a Bitchshield, she said she had a boyfriend etc (you know). So I tried to DHV. First with the "think about a number between 1 and 9, multiply with 9 etc", and after that one, the HB5 was like "WOOOW!", the HB9 didn`t say much, but a bit later she said that she didn`t have a boyfriend, but her ex just walked past our table. More smallchat, but still I felt the HB9 had this bitchshield, so I threw in a neg "I like your eyes.... but I like your right one better than the left one". She almost freaked out, and asked her friend if it was true, and looked herself in the mirror. Throught the whole act, I was acting cocky, and lay back. And now the HB9 say "My ex isn`t really here, he is home". And now I felt confident in my game, but after more smalltalk, and maybe I was too cocky and stuff, all of a sudden they said "We have to leave, sorry" and I just said okey, no problem (But of course it was a problem, because I failed, but acting like I had lots of other girls waiting). So here is my question, what did I do wrong `?

Conclusion:
This is what I think I did wrong:

-Too cocly too long
-Didn`t isolate the target
-No Kino at all
-Didn`t build any comfort, but I feel I never got to that point ? (But I chatted with them like 20-25 minutes)

But ,as I said, I am a newbie. So you sure have a lot more on me. I appreciate all feedback I can get from you guys.

Cheers.
Author:  Ace Rimmer [ Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:41 pm ]
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Not using any comfort or kino after 25 minutes isn't ideal. Don't see how you could've isolated the HB9 from the 2-set, her friend would've been stuck to her like a limpet anyway.

Don't treat it as a failure, you approached, and got the HB9 to admit to her deception. A lot of guys just starting out as PUA's can't even do that.

I'll also give you a little story of my experience with scouse girls. Went to the Cavern Club to see a band who were performing here, a band from my area. Went out in the bars afterwards, and this HB7 approached me and was all over me. Great, you might think.

Made the fatal mistake of buying her a drink, but things were ok, until she started raking her nails down my back. I told her to stop, she did it again, and tried to simulate humping me from behind. I quickly got shot of the crazy bint. I'm thinking that maybe she was drugged up to the eyeballs. It struck me that going into every bar or club toilet you'd get a scally asking " You want any pills mate?". :shock:
Author:  speed-bird [ Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:30 am ]
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Your report doesn't mention a wing. A wing would have taken care of HB5, and if he was good then you would have closed HB9 without a problem.
Author:  avk [ Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:59 am ]
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FAAAALSE TIME CONSTRAINT ,

in all of your story I did not see one FTC , yeah sure you have your material hooked and you landed the plane in the right place but where is the FTC.


well I gotta give you credit for approaching ,

better game next time :)
Author:  J-Dark [ Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:34 am ]
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Made the fatal mistake of buying her a drink, but things were ok, until she started raking her nails down my back. I told her to stop, she did it again, and tried to simulate humping me from behind. I quickly got shot of the crazy bint. I'm thinking that maybe she was drugged up to the eyeballs. It struck me that going into every bar or club toilet you'd get a scally asking " You want any pills mate?". :shock:
Haha, actually we went to a place first, and a guy came up to me and asked "Do you do drugs ?"
But nice story there. And thank you all for feedback.

I didn`t have any wing, I only had one friend in the club, but he was at the dance floor. I know I made a mistake when I didn`t throw in a FTC, and I will now never open a set again without a FTC.

Maybe my two mistakes, not any FTC and absolutely no comfort building withing the first 25 minutes, ruined my game ? The reason I did this, was because I wanted to remove the HB9`s bitchshield.. But see now that it maybe was a mistake.. And without a wing, how to get rid of the HB5 ?
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