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Author:  SugarGlider [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:53 am ]
Post subject:  Second Sarge (# close)(learning a lot)(read & critique)!!
This was over a week ago. I kept going to write a field report but every time I did I'd lose my motivation. But here we go. Don't just lurk, give feedback!!

Things to Know:
-Seeing as people aren't giving feedback, I'm critiqing myself as I go. What I should have done will be in bold or italics.
-Also, my first set was interrupted, then I opened a second and third, and the first set reopened at another venue, read carefully so you don't get confused.


-Went out on town for a mate's birthday
-goal was to open 10 sets and close at least one
-I arrive at the venue and greet everyone. At that point there were like 4 guys and 3 girls (2 of which were taken).
-I get introduced to the single girl I hadn't met before then almost immediately everyone else goes to the bar, so it's just me and her (strangers) sitting at the table.
-AFC me would have sat in silence and made boring small talk--NOT ANYMORE!!
-I immediately went into my opener;
"I need your opinion on something *she is engaged straight away* Tattoos on girls, yes or no?"
"Ew no!"
"The reason I'm asking is because my cousin is 18 has been dating this guy for a month. She wants to get his name tattooed on her wrist! Everyone is telling her not to but it's making her want to do it more; what should I tell her?"
-We had a bit of back and forth for a while about it; I can't really remember what she said.
-SOMEHOW I transition smoothly into the cube DHV. I wish I could remember exactly how I did it; I guess I was in the moment. Maybe we discussed our interests and I said something like psychology or people reading.
-I ran the cube, she loved it. She gave it an 8/10 accuracy.
-It was about this time she said "I'll be right back" and got up to go do something. Our friends still weren't back sitting with us, so I was left by myself with the table.
-F*ck that. I wasn't going to wait around like a chump, so I stood up to find my friends.
(this continues later, this girl appears in set 2 as well)

Set Number Two
-as soon as I stood up 2 moderately attractive girls took our table (seats were scarce by this point)
-I turned to them and opened:
"I was up for 2 seconds and you took our table!" (smiling, non-theatening)
"Oh were you guys still using them? (refering to my friends and I)
"Nah, it's okay, we're leaving in about five minutes anyway" (False time constraint... well, it was a real time constraint. We were going to leave soon.)
-I continued the conversation by then using a canned opener.
-"I need your opinion on something (I sit next to them and work in a FTC), do you think kissing is cheating?"
-When I sat down I felt like she as a bit unsure about me; it wasn't like she was uncomfortable, just cautious. When I sensed that I used another FTC vocally and with my body.
-We discussed kissingcheating briefly, then I asked "Are you guys best friends?"
"Yeah.."
"I can tell, you have the same facial expressions *they look at each other* There, you did it again." *They laugh pretty hard then look back at me smiling.
-By that point I think I stopped them thinking I was some guy hitting on them, I showed some value, made them laugh and they were interested (a little).
-I continued; "You guys should be do the best friends test."
"I'm not going to kiss you.." said one of them.
I gave her a funny look and said "I'm not hitting on you..."
****This is something I could have done differently. I said I wasn't hitting on her, as if I was defending myself. A much better response would have been "Don't worry, you're not my type" This would have made her question why not, would have been a disqualifier and possibly started making her qualify herself to me. Lesson learnt.***
-I run the test on them, it works perfectly. They're laughing pretty hard and stuff.
-By that point I actually had to go as my friends were leaving. But I felt they wanted me to stay; and if my friends weren't leaving I could have stayed with the girls. They were hooked. But I said it was nice meeting them and left.
-As I got up and left they still had huge smiles, they said "Thanks so much for that!"
***I'm not sure about that response. I don't want to be thanked as if I'm a performer, but I think my quick exit made it seem that way. If I was able to stay longer perhaps I wouldn't have given off that vibe. But the main thing is that they really enjoyed it and I had them hooked. Practise.***
-at a point during the conversation the girl from the first set returned and touched my shoulder. I looked up and she sort of gave my a friendly "What the f*ck" smile as I was chatting these girls up. She walked straight on by and probably gave me some social proof. Haha!

The Third Approach
-we were at a new venue now, I was chilling with my friends when this beautiful dark girl came over. She was friends with my friend.
-they were talking and I was standing there awkwardly until eventually I cut them off and said "Hi, I'm SugarGlider. I was waiting to see how it would take for my friend to introduce us."
"Hey I'm 3rdgirl!"
"You have a C-shaped smile" I said with a grin.
"Uhh.. thanks? Haha"
Then I went into C's vs U's.
***I said she had a friendly C-shaped smile, if I could change things I would have said she had an unfriendly U-shaped smile as a neg. She was beautiful and I should have negged her***
-We continue the talk as a group; I bring up her shoes and say they're cool and that I've seen like 6 other girls wearing the same ones tonight
-She made growny/smiling kind of face and laughed, like she was disappointed; successful neg.
***I should have pushed more and tried isolating her. She was like a 8.5. Eventually she left though. Ah well, I got some practise in***

The Return of Girl Number One
-Eventually the girl from the first place came and joined us at the new venue (time distortion) and I sat with her and her friend (who I won over)
-I just sat with them for the rest of the night. It was great social proof for the bar, I was sitting with 2 girls making them laugh all night.
-I just ran every routine that I knew. It was total overkill but I wanted practice
-Eventually got her number, we've hang out a few times since. Got a kiss etc, but now trying to gently friend-zone her.



So there it is guys. Give me feedback!! Even if you don't know you're stuff, let me hear it. Even "You suck" or "Great job!" Anything! Don't lurk!
Author:  TheBuddingPUA [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:12 am ]
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Sounds like you've done pretty well but you HAVE TO close more, I was doing that at the start Opening and then leaving as if i was "leaving them wanting me" but it doesnt work out that way much.. im no expert but i have learned to always get the close because you may never see the HB again :/ Good luck :wink:
Author:  iceg001 [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:51 am ]
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not bad for second sarge
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