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Author:  Kasa [ Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:07 am ]
Post subject:  My first field report.. Crash and burned
Although I did horrible I did learn some thing from it.

OK on to the report. I am in high school. I've decided to practice my game at lunch. Ok, so theres a HB 9 that I sorta know from last year. She some times waves at me in the hallway. I noticed her standing in the line about 60 feet away from mine. She was wearing bright green clothes and her eyes had the same color around them eyelid and a little above it. She stood out. Well I was in line i tried to prove alpha male energy. My first mistake was looking away when I thought they were looking at me. I got my lunch sat down ate. Got up and spotted her in a 4 set at a table. I walk over by were they are sitting. I start to feel scared and approach anzity what if she is mean what if i screw up. I see some of my friends and go over by them, yes I know wussed out. I talk to my friends a while. By then I have reminded my self that it doesn't matter if she ses no because there are millions of other HB out there. I allready have my opener. How was your lunch, pause mine was crappy there was a strand of hair in it. I sit down and say i can only stay a second. They already had there bitch shields up. Me: I noticed your crazy woardrobe from the other side of the lunch room. You must like bright colors. HB9: No, i like dark colors, rolls eyes. First shit test. Me fucking up big time: Sorry i won't point out the obviose again. I try to recover by saying o you got a new hair cut its horrable i don't like it. HB 9 and HB5 say your a dick second shit test. I wuss out and leave.

Ok, so first off i should of done the time constraint first. My topic was an ok opener i think. You can tell me what you thought. I think I might of sat down to quikly. Other than that do you think i could of passed there shit tests.

If i could have tried again i would have brought a girl with me as a pivot. I also wouldn't of said you must like bright colors. I still woulda prob negged her the same and tried to calorbrate for there shit tests.

If you have any pointers post I need a lot of work till i can sarg sucssefully.
Author:  speed-bird [ Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:50 am ]
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If only I had all this PUA information when I was in high school! Jeez things would have been different.

Anyway, I think your negs were a little too harsh, there has to be an upside to a neg.

If I were you I'd work on just getting as far as the opener and leaving it at that until you get good at openings, that way you'll lose the AA (clearly that crippled you here) and you'll get into the habit of thinking of openers on the spot. Then work your way into routines, and then start experimenting with negs and DHVs. Negs and DHVs both have to go in there. It's hard enough at High School age to get an approach going, and if your school's as big as you say it is then it must be a target-rich environment. Just concentrate on being sociable and talkative first.

The difference between sarging in school and in the city's bars is that in school, it's an enclosed environment where word travels fast, especially if it's personal and most definitely if it's something negative about you. I'd try and do some damage control with this chick if I were you, next time you see her say something along the lines of "Sorry about the little Seinfeld moment back there, a few things just came out the wrong way. I'm actually a nice guy." Don't try to score with her, just try to get on good terms with her, or your stock could go down across the school and the bitch shields will be in full force across the board, and that can be very difficult to reverse.

I'd do a bit more research if I were you. Have you read The Game?
Author:  Yillan [ Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:34 am ]
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Actually, "you must like bright colors" could work, assuming that's what she was wearing. Just say something along the lines of "That's too bad, I like bright colors" and move on to something else.
Author:  alex_hitchens [ Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:56 am ]
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as style always says man, girls are thinking two things when you approach them - why he is here, and when is he going to go?
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How was your lunch, pause mine was crappy there was a strand of hair in it. I sit down and say i can only stay a second
your opener was good in that you included a false time constraint, but you didnt root it. Meaning that you didnt answer the question "why is this guy sitting here asking about our lunch? Instead try an opinon opener next time.
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They already had there bitch shields up. Me: I noticed your crazy woardrobe from the other side of the lunch room. You must like bright colors. HB9: No, i like dark colors, rolls eyes. First shit test. Me fucking up big time: Sorry i won't point out the obviose again. I try to recover by saying o you got a new hair cut its horrable i don't like it. HB 9 and HB5 say your a dick second shit test. I wuss out and leave.
Okay their bitch shields were up because u screwed up on the opener, their comments after with the rolling of the eyes werent really shit tests, but more just them saying you didnt do a good enough job opening.

you realised you fucked up when u apologised and try to recover with a neg, thats the right idea, in this case the neg was a little harsh but u got the idea.

my advice, read more! and keep sarging!
good work tho man,
cheers
Author:  Alchemist [ Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:58 pm ]
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Wished that I started in high school! I am pretty new to all of this but am going to toss out an idea:

- Walk by her table (as if you are passing by it anyway)
- Look over your shoulder
- Slow down
- SMILE
- Comment on her green outfit
- WALK AWAY (barely waiting for a response)

This approach would make you stand out as a guy who is not needy, not seeking her approval and confident. You'd have plenty of opportunities to see her again anyway so you can actually build it up piece by piece.

Best of luck.
Author:  Blues [ Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My first field report.. Crash and burned
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Although I did horrible I did learn some thing from it.

OK on to the report. I am in high school. I've decided to practice my game at lunch. Ok, so theres a HB 9 that I sorta know from last year. She some times waves at me in the hallway. I noticed her standing in the line about 60 feet away from mine. She was wearing bright green clothes and her eyes had the same color around them eyelid and a little above it. She stood out. Well I was in line i tried to prove alpha male energy. My first mistake was looking away when I thought they were looking at me. I got my lunch sat down ate. Got up and spotted her in a 4 set at a table. I walk over by were they are sitting. I start to feel scared and approach anzity what if she is mean what if i screw up. I see some of my friends and go over by them, yes I know wussed out. I talk to my friends a while. By then I have reminded my self that it doesn't matter if she ses no because there are millions of other HB out there. I allready have my opener. How was your lunch, pause mine was crappy there was a strand of hair in it. I sit down and say i can only stay a second. They already had there bitch shields up. Me: I noticed your crazy woardrobe from the other side of the lunch room. You must like bright colors. HB9: No, i like dark colors, rolls eyes. First shit test. Me fucking up big time: Sorry i won't point out the obviose again. I try to recover by saying o you got a new hair cut its horrable i don't like it. HB 9 and HB5 say your a dick second shit test. I wuss out and leave.
Alright dude, I'll try to break it down. Good job trying to be alpha, and you already know your mistake of breaking eye contact, so I won't waste your time with that.

When approaching it's best not to make it look like you PLANNED to go and talk to her -- you don't want to make her feel special yet. So as you're walking by her table do a double-take -- you're walking by, you stop as if you JUST decided to talk to them and sit down next to one of the obstacles. Your opener wasn't bad at all, actually. It just depends on how you pulled it off. Personally I would've transformed mine into an opinion opener: "Hey guys, how's your lunch? Mine had a HAIR in it. I'm kinda pissed -- I'm eating, talking to my friends, whatever, and suddenly I see this huge-ass piece of hair sitting on top of my spaghetti. Should I take it back or not?"

Get their opinions or whatever and 3/4 of the way through when your target is talking interrupt her with a neg. "Wow, you must like bright colors. You goin' hunting?" You completely failed her shit test from the first word: "sorry." You never apologize to an HB.

Instead after her response just throw her off with a "wow, I was just messing around -- is she always like this? how do you roll with her?" and go into into another dhv story or whatever.

The other mistake was that you failed her shit test and then you actually paid MORE attention to her and threw another neg (which you also failed.)

However, regardless of all of this, good job. You made the approach and you're learning from it, which is a lot more than most AFCs are able to do. :)

See you around dude.
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