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| Author: | speed-bird [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | 1st attempt, opening only, no close |
New here. Finished reading Neil Strauss' book at the weekend and became a believer! This isn't from a proper sarging session but just a little warmup exercise I gave myself. Field report #1 Location: Borders Bookstore, Sunnyvale CA Date: November 27th, 2007, PM Target: HB8 Outcome: No close, but damn! It was exciting! Background: I had some time to kill after going to the dentist and before driving off to another city for a date. So I went to the bookstore to A) get some reading material about languages, to beef up some material for a routine I'm working on (I have a very exploitable foreign accent and want to learn more about linguistics), and B) to chat to some prospective targets and get into the swing of opening sets. I intend to work on openers at first just to build confidence and then set myself the objective of getting as near as I can to the close. Situation: Queuing up to pay for the book. Saw a decent looking lady in the line in front of me. I looked at her book and it was a children's book, so I assumed she was married and not worth the effort. I discreetly looked around and saw a very pretty college-age girl behind me in the line. I looked down at her book and I saw the author's name, it was by Tolstoy. Me: "Anna Karenina?" HB8: "Yes" Me: "Good book. Great story. Better than War and Peace." HB8: "Really?" Me: "Yeah. In War and Peace he waffles away off into the weeds about philosophy, and it's all bunk." HB8: laughs Me: "Have you read any of Tolstoy's stuff before?" HB8: "No actually, this is my first one." Me: "He's very realistic, very detailed. It's just like being there. You can almost smell the horse manure." HB8: laughs Me: ... pause ... look at cashiers and assess how much more time we've got left, yeah we have another minute or so. Time for a personal question... "College project?" HB8: "It's a high school project. I picked something challenging." Me: "Wow, I hope you have plenty of time." HB8: laughs "Well I have about three weeks to get halfway through it" Me: "Well, you'd better go back and get a book on speed-reading" HB8: laughs and giggles Cashier: "I can help the next person in line" I took off and paid at that point. Chatted to the guy behind the counter about his tattoo, just to keep the flow going. He probably thought I was gay. But so what? Then I had to rush to the bathroom and blow town so I could go an that date. Remarks: No close with this girl, the objective was to practice the opening. The opportunity to get a DHV into the opening was too good to pass up, the fact that I'd read her book was a coincidence begging to be exploited. Not saying goodbye while still in the line was, in hindsight, a good move. It would have made things easy in the event of a follow-up since it's awkward to talk to someone again after having just said goodbye. Don't say goodbye until you've had at least an email close. Room for improvement: Get the timing right at the checkout so that you're both leaving at the same time, and re-open the conversation on the way out the door or in the parking lot, and go for a better close. Check age before closing, if she's still at high school then she might not be over 18 (although I'm pretty sure this girl was). I know it sounds lame, but for a man that hasn't had much action in the last few years it was pretty exciting and I felt great afterwards. I can see how this stuff can get addictive, it reminds me of how I used to be when I was in college and would have thought nothing of doing something like that. It's just a matter of getting into the swing of things again. Any feedback? Thanks. |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Good Start |
Sounds like you're off to a good start. It's getting use to opening people around you in all situations that makes you more comfortable later on. I typically don't open anyone if I plan on being interrupted within about 3 minutes. There is the 3 second rule that says you open a set within 3 seconds of seeing it. However, there is also the 3 minute exception that basically states if you know you're going to be interrupted within 3 minutes of the open then you wait. For example, if you're in line like that, see a girl just sit down in a restaurant, the waiter will be over soon. Anyways, good job! |
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