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Author:  Miklo [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Help this poor AFC
DAMN SOCIAL SHYNESS!!! I am extremely new to the community in general, have been reading up when I can. Went out last night with the intentions of maybe trying out some of the shit I've learned so far. I dressed to impress, and was getting a few IOI's from to my amazement a couple of 7's',8's, and even a 9. One three set I should have opened had two of the girls giving me IOI's but mainly one of them and 8. But of course, I fucked up and left the bar and returned to where my people were. I can't seem to get balls to break out of my shell. I can walk through a club pickup on some of these signals, and just keep walking, and its tearing me up that I know I can get these girls if would just start doing what I need to do, and TALK. I can use any help you have to offer this damn AFC, I would like to start my journey to PUA'dom. Also, I'm located in Dallas,Tx so if anyone in the area would be willing to help me out, remember I am BRAND NEW to all of this, so it will be hard work I'm sure
Author:  CycklopsGT [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help this poor AFC
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DAMN SOCIAL SHYNESS!!! I am extremely new to the community in general, have been reading up when I can. Went out last night with the intentions of maybe trying out some of the shit I've learned so far. I dressed to impress, and was getting a few IOI's from to my amazement a couple of 7's',8's, and even a 9. One three set I should have opened had two of the girls giving me IOI's but mainly one of them and 8. But of course, I fucked up and left the bar and returned to where my people were. I can't seem to get balls to break out of my shell. I can walk through a club pickup on some of these signals, and just keep walking, and its tearing me up that I know I can get these girls if would just start doing what I need to do, and TALK. I can use any help you have to offer this damn AFC, I would like to start my journey to PUA'dom. Also, I'm located in Dallas,Tx so if anyone in the area would be willing to help me out, remember I am BRAND NEW to all of this, so it will be hard work I'm sure
I'm not a master or anything, but I do know about how you learn to do things...and as Jane Fonda used to say, you "stretch to the point of gentle tension." Just go outside your comfort zone a tiny bit. Then do that a couple times, and your comfort zone will expand, and expand and so on.

What you might be able to do (again, I'm not a master), is just start out by approaching a group of girls and asking a quick, predetermined question. Like the "I need to settle a question with some friends" type. Since you know what you're going to say, and you plan to leave immediately after, it should be no problem to do so with confidence.

(btw, if they like you enough to ask you more about it, you can still just say "I have to go right now, maybe later!" Then they might actually wave you over later, at which point you're in good enough that they'll help you along as long as you're talkative and honest.)
Author:  Zeal [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:25 pm ]
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Hey we've all been there before man relax. Personally I wouldn't take it a step at a time. Fucking get out there and just talk to people don't worry about getting laid getting numbers nothin like that. Go out there say hi and go on from there see what works what doesn't. That's how I got good at approaching. If its a confidence or shyness thing, get a dozen roses, do this during day game, and pass them out to 12 HBs maybe start a convo. It'll help with your shyness. If its that you can't think of shit to talk about, get a phone book call people and talk to them see how long you can hold a convo for. Small shit like that helps. Another good one, and you're on the right path, get a wing give him $200 and tell him to give you $20 back for every set you open. Its up to you if you get it back or make your wing a richer man haha. I think that's something Mystery suggested I'm not sure but it works. Good luck and remember only 28thousand days to live...so little time for those oppertunities. Peace

Zeal
Author:  Toolfan955 [ Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:02 am ]
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Start off small, when you go into a club and your first approach is an HB8, you can't help but be nervous. Ease yourself into it, small talk with some guys on the way in, maybe open a few less intimidating groups. As you go, you will gain more confidence and also become more comfortable with your surroundings. Talking to a lot of people can also build some social proof that you are a guy who gets attention.
Author:  aRdoslav [ Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:52 pm ]
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Yes, Zeal is right. I suggest you go to the mall and say HI to everyone you had a eye contact. Expand your confort zone. Starting with "hi" is nice idea.
Author:  Miklo [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:36 am ]
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Thanks for the help, I will be sure to get out there and try to get out of my comfort zone. I think day game is a good place to start, again thanks for the help guys.
Author:  CaLib0i [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:05 pm ]
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don't sweat it. Don't go out thinking of sarging. And if you do go out, just expect to crash and learn from the experience. I do better when I think like that. It relieves some stress.

Quick tip, just open 1 set, and mess up on that. As long as you opened one you'll do better at opening the next. Plus the anxiety wont be as bad
Author:  GenuineJ [ Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:00 pm ]
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Start small my brother. Alexander the Great didn't control Rome after one night of fighting. George Bush didn't steal the election in 2000 after only 3 days of campaigning.

One very nice trick is to start off small by going into good public venues and asking for the time. It works nice and you can build a good conversation after it. Don't get me wrong, it is very AFCish but for begginers its a great way to knock some AA off. If the HB has a nice watch, then tell her so. If she pulls her cell phone out of her nice gucci purse, tell her that her purse is too expensive and gain some rapport off the neg. It really can be whatever you want it to be off of a simple "Can I have the time" or "You wouldn't happen to have the time would you?."

One thing though is never to start off with an excuse me. It shows a lot of DLV because it doesn't sound like you could be into her only just the time. Keep it real.
Author:  Easton [ Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:49 pm ]
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Okay, it sounds like you might forget to say things because the shyness kicks in. get an opinion opener, get one story. remember these two to the extent that you have flexibility to link them together and freestyle if something comes out of nowhere. get your opener out there. ask the question, and interrupt their responce with another part of that story. When someone says something, be empathetic abou that. Keep eye contact with her and ask about her opinion ("have you been in a bad relationship recently?") throw in "my friends are waiting, so i'm not going to stay long, but..." and go into story two

see how this works out
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