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Author:  Fogell [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:24 am ]
Post subject:  I fucken froze...

This is so fucken embarrasing...so tonight i was with this girl (HB8.5) on a day 2...we'd been texting back n forth all week, and just couldnt get together till tonight...anyways, I take her to my place and I just didnt know what to do...like we were watching TV, and I was being very playful with her...we were talking, i tried a couple games like the 5-question game, and then I tried some stories like the U-shaped smile vs C-shaped...anyways, I was just trying to keep convo going...

anyways, I start play wrestling with her, and Im in a position for I can K-close her (for the 2nd time, we made out on the first night) and I just fucken froze...I kept thinking about "this is gonna lead to sex" (which ive never had before) and I froze...I dont know why, I just froze and couldnt do anything...and about 10 mins later I drove her to a party where she met up with some friends...she invited me to go with her, but it wasnt my crowd, and I really didnt feel like getting stabbed tonight...

but ya wtf...can someone tell me wats wrong with me? I definately not gay, but why, for the life of me, could I not fucken close??????? I mustve been over-analyzing the situation or something, I did have those thoughts going through my head that "what if she doesnt want too"...so can someone please just give me some sorta advice on how to deal with the problem of my head fucking me over

Author:  Classick [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:14 am ]
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your first time is going to suck anyway, sex is so different then what you think it will be the first time, check this out buddy

first off, sex, is not special at all, its natural, normal and both parties involved want it, think of sex as a byproduct of relationships with females nothing more, but the female instead is the special thing, or the important part to the mix. once you look at it that way, you will begin making more meaningful connections i think anyway, but thats coming from a hater of one night stands, i am about having sex with girls i really find something i like.

next, be the alpha, go to every party, especially if she invited you, you won't get stabbed if you learn to communicate in a non threatening way enough for everyone in the room to like you.

example, i went to a house party tonight, and the guy next to me get his face beat in, i was standing 2 inches from him when it happened, this is not my crowd, but i did meet a pretty young thing, HB-9 gina, and that went really well, i don't care what crowd I'm in, i just make sure if its a new one, i spend time talking to the guys and the girls, so no one there thinks poorly of me. i make impressions, good ones on everyone i can

i want people to remember me, no matter what party i go to, and have good things to say about me. but come on man, I'm not a jock, i don't fist fight, i am a lover, and i like meeting cute girls, like this gina chick, who her man was right next to me as i socialized with her, it was funny, and fucked up at the same time, he faded out of the convo, she was clearly interested in me, but i would bring it full circle to make sure he didn't get annoyed, and i would neg her, every time i did she became visibly more interested in me. when they left the party, i said goodbye to gina, and her guy friends, because i want them all to think ima good dude, and im the type of dude that they want to be around.

so go to every event, go to any event, its all practice for that ones that count, its all good man, people are your biggest resource, so network, especially if you ever want to be successful in business or politics, networking is key. meet meet meet. give people you don't know a reason to remember you and think, "damn that guy is going places"

so what you froze, i froze earlier today, analyze your lines, think of the results you wanted and what you could have done to get them, learn the freeze out routines, prepare yourself for this same moment because it most likely will happen again, when i froze earlier, i posted about it, thought about how i could of reacted differently.

this is a long process of being able to say the right thing to achieve the right results, in a matter of seconds, in no shape or form is that by any means easy, its tough to remember it all!!!

be proud you got as far as you did, life is about making mistakes man, you couldn't walk if you didn't fall and eventually learn to balance yourself, mistakes help us all throughout life, they are the stepping stone and building block to a better you. you want to be the best you possible, thats the mindset you need when you look back on this night, think about that, and the results you wanted, then start making up scenarios of what would of got you there. the key here is to no repeat mistakes, don't be a know it all, and stick with your same routines, or your same style or your same game. be willing to try new things to get new results. i make it a rule to try new things each time i go out, i had 2 things i wanted to do tonight

and sadly i failed about both!!!"pez opener, didnt remember to try it" and "bounce routine, girl had previous plans" but i approached so many sets tonight, spent alot of time with 2 of them, and made some meaningful connections, set high standards bro, and believe in yourself.

for instance i made mistakes tonight, 2 most memorable ones, i didn't think quick enough of an opener for this 11, i wanted to start with a neg and by the time i had an opener for her a few minutes later, she had left. then there was a 3 set i didn't approach, i was too scared, and felt that a normal opinion opener wasn't good enough, i didn't even try it! fuck that man, next time i go for failure. because when i fail, i can move on from that location and learn more

so go for the sex with this one, see what happens, use a freeze out if she resists

don't be like every other guy, if/when she says no lets stop, or lets just kiss, be like, ahh im sorry if your not comfortable its cool, turn on the lights, walk away, watch tv, freeze her out. you need to let this girl know you are about more then just the sex, because not going to the party with her might have been a bad move, it makes her feel like, we were having such a good night and now he doesn't want to be around me, is it because i didn't fuck him? take into consideration your shot might be forever gone with this girl, and if it is, move on to the next one and don't make this mistake again!

good luck to you

Author:  Fogell [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:16 pm ]
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Classick, I greatly appreciate your insightful response to my field report, and alot of the things you mentioned I have already thought about, and the other things I will definately take into consideration.

First off, regarding the party...your prolly right, I think i did make a mistake by not going to the party...however, at the time I just was having alot of doubt going through my mind, especially since I was rattled from freezing on her...the type of guy you were talking about being at parties, is similar to how I try too be. Im not the type of guy who gets into altercations over stupid things, its just that the party she wanted to go to was definately not my crowd, and it made me feel less comfortable since I dont even live in the town im in right now...

Anyways, what ill take from this experience last night was that I tried a couple new routines (5 questions game, and U vs C smiles) although I didnt execute them well (she cracked the 5 questions game cuz i delivered the questions to slow) I know now to work on them in the future...

The real unfortunate thing about this girl though, is that Im not gonna see her again, because Im going home today and I live 6 hours from the town she lives in. That is why we both made the last effort to hang out with each other last night, and thats why im just rattled...cuz I told myself going into the night, that Im only gonna be a memory to her in a day anyways, so its ok if I fuck up...

But again, thanks for your insight...the freeze out routine (after I make a move haha) is definately something I gotta remember...and ya my shot with this girl is over, so I guess the only thing to do now is to go sarge today haha

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