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Author:  Tyketto [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:44 am ]
Post subject:  Wish I never learned about being a Pick-Up Artist
I first learned about becoming a pua about 5 years ago. At that time in my life I had come out of a couple of bad relationships and had no women in my life besides my girlfriend at the time.

When I was introduced to it, I new my life would not be the same. I started out doing some approaches and I was starting to become okay. Then I met one girl who liked me and we started a nightmare of a relationship that lasted for a few years. My self-esteem was demoralized after she treated me like shit, then dumped me. I then reconnected with a different ex-girlfriend for a while after that. I went back with her to try to regain some self-confidence, but it didn't help me.

I say I shouldn't have learned about game because I feel that it is something that eludes me. I try to muster up courage to open a set and I cannot push through it. I am a slave to my emotions. By not learning about game I would not feel the desire to push myself to open sets. Every day I say to myself, this is the day I am going to finally open a set. Every day I end up not being able to do it. It is really frusturating :evil:

Does anyone else feel down-trodden?
Author:  AFCmack [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:27 am ]
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Man ive felt that way many times over the eight years ive been applying game youve got to push through them though and get back out there if you want this, youve approached before so you have evidence that it can be done.
I can only say you have to be persistant start small chat to the shop keeper the bus driver anyone and everyone say something risky, comment on something without analysing what to say.Avoid trying to analyse your 5 years of game by your approach 'fuk it' dont put pressure on yourself to be a MPUA becuase the MPUA has fun in his interactions or youll give yourself performance anxiety dude.
Forget thinking of it as opening a set instead just think about talking, Kissing, fcking or whatever else your mind wants to think of just let it relax then open your mouth and say hi.
Just say hi and dont say any more or just make any noise that comes out.
Author:  InstantClassic [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:01 pm ]
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AFCmack covered it all right there, i just have to say try not to worry about it too much, if your calm and relaxed about it then it should be a lot easier


Carl
Author:  Tyketto [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:22 am ]
Post subject: 
Thanks for the help guys :)

I am very mad because I feel like i'm wasting my life away trying to overcome something that has such a strong hold on me.

This is what my mind tells me when I see approach opportunity:

"If I talk to them, they will be pissed off". "I should start with a lower quality first". "What if they don't hear me?" "They are near other people who can hear what i'm saying to them". "The next one I see". "She doesn't look my type". "What if someone else comes". "I'll fuck up and be embarrassed". "What if their reply to my opinon opener throws me off?" "I didn't get a good enough look at her first". "I recognize them from somewhere".

These are just some of the bullshit that my emotions tell me. I know most of these are not true, but I am a slave to my mind. When I started out, I had moderate success until I let a toxic relationship derail me.

It pissess me off that I have all this head knowledge, yet can't push through this mental block to enjoy my life. While at the same time, I see tons of AFC guys who have women in their lives. These guys probably don't know half the stuff that I know, yet they have women in their lives where I don't.

Sorry, I just needed to vent and see if others feel like I do. Thanks :)
Author:  Wal [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:19 pm ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
"If I talk to them, they will be pissed off". "I should start with a lower quality first". "What if they don't hear me?" "They are near other people who can hear what i'm saying to them". "The next one I see". "She doesn't look my type". "What if someone else comes". "I'll fuck up and be embarrassed". "What if their reply to my opinon opener throws me off?" "I didn't get a good enough look at her first". "I recognize them from somewhere".
The mind is a really brilliant problem solver. Your issue is that there is no problem to solve, so your mind invents these problems to work on. In this way, your mind gets to continue to do its thing even when it is not needed, and it gets in the way of reality. Ignore your mind until you have a tangible problem that needs a solution.
Author:  Teknine [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:47 pm ]
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Tyketto I have felt these things bro. Straight out the gate - I think you are letting your history w/exes define you too much. Fuck that noize. Reset.

Something clicked in me recently after getting fucked over by some bitch I was really into. I don't give a fuck now. I'll approach and say some bullshit. I don't have a routine at the ready - I just know my time is precious and I'm actually pretty fuckin cool. Sometimes I play the no game game. Like our boy Eminem:

"I've got no game
And every face looks the same
They've got no name
So I don't need game to play
I just say whatever I want to whoever I want
Whenever I want, wherever I want, however I want"
Author:  Tyketto [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Reply
I do let my past define me too much. That might be one of the causes of my mental block.

Sometimes I work myself up to getting to the point where I say "Fuck it, Im going for it, I don't care what happens" I will go to the mall, college, some target rich location. I spot a set ready to open, then my mental block kicks in. Like today, I was going to open this set of athletic chicks. Then my mind quickly tells me that "Im not athletic enough" or "I don't have enough cool things in my life to be worthy of such a woman" or some other bullshit.

It is like there is times where I feel I cant progress and open a set unless I clear the past skeletons out of my closet. What do you guys think?
Author:  InstantClassic [ Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:56 am ]
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it just sounds like you are over analyzing the situation in field. dont worry man i do this to.....the best piece of advice i can give you on this situation is to try and open a set in such away that your brain cant get in the way..... say as your walking down the street as soon as you spot a girl (or a group) just go up and say something, anything really....if it goes well great, if it doesnt.....then its doesnt matter cause your still alive right....its not going to kill you if it goes wrong.....so just try to relax and remember no matter what happens try to have fun out there


hope this helps

Carl
Author:  Black Phantom [ Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:51 pm ]
Post subject: 
I can help you with this.

I can make you approach within a day.

If you're interested leave me a message on privat.
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:27 pm ]
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Forget about "what if?"

There are only TWO things that can possibly happen when you do an approach

(1) It goes well, and she likes you - GREAT!

(2) It goes badly, and you have a funny story about getting blown out - FUNNY!

Win-win, no?

What we like to do to help guys get out of their head and stop caring about what people think or "rejection," is to go out and get intentionally blown out on PURPOSE, just to realise how pointless it is to care.

Try it. Next time you're out, do a few sets where you just say a TERRIBLE chat up line, and then just stand there and make THEM feel really awkward, and then just leave and laugh about it. It's all about the power of self-amusement. Don't think "what do I do to get them to like me?" think "what would be funny to do right now?" and then just DO IT.
Author:  $uave [ Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:16 pm ]
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Quote:
Forget about "what if?"

There are only TWO things that can possibly happen when you do an approach

(1) It goes well, and she likes you - GREAT!

(2) It goes badly, and you have a funny story about getting blown out - FUNNY!

Win-win, no?
That's right. Detachment from outcome. Even MPUAs do that. (Tyler Durden mentioned about it.)

Just set a goal to approach-not close, nothing. Approach=success.
P.S. Next time you go to a club, just go for yourself-just to have fun, not for girls. While in process of enjoying yourself and just having fun, go up to any girl/set of girls and tell them that they look gorgeous. Introduce yourself, talk about whatever the f*** you want. Look at your watch and say "Hey I have to catch up with friends, you look cool we should hang out some time, write down your number" give your cell phone. Simple and effective.

It's mostly about haveing fun yourself, and not caring about outcome.
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