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Author:  Warped Mindless [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:29 am ]
Post subject:  My Opinion on looks and how it effects game.
I'll just come right out and say it. Looks don't fucking matter.

"But Warped I know a good loking guy that gets laid alot."

Who fucking cares. I know ugly guys that probably gets laid more.

"But Warped, all good looking girls are with good looking guys."

No their not, open your eyes.

"But warped, you have to have a strong jawline to attract women."

*facepalm*

Look guys, looks mean shit. When a girl does become attracted to you (or anyone) they will try to rationalize her attraction. Often times she will base that rationalization on looks. "I like this guy...must be because hes hot." In reality, looks have noting to do with it.

However, even though looks have nothing to do with it they sure as hell cant hurt. Guess what guys...you don't have to be ugly. You can at least become average. Proper grooming, good fashion, cool haircut, and confident body language will truely transform your physical appearance.

Make over shows do it all the fucking time. They take a chick or guy thats ugly as fuck, send them to a fashion and hair consultant and by the end of the show they look good again.

"By Warped, looks.."

Shut the hell up. Looks don't mean anything.

People like to transfer blame. "She didn't become attracted to me because I dont have a 'Brad Pitt' jawline." No, in truth she didn't become attracted to you because of something else...like a shitty personality. If you don't get women, its not your looks its you. Accept it, fix it, get laid.

The way I figure it you have two options. Either sit and complain about shit that doesn't matter (looks) or you can man up, approach some chicks and get laid. Its all up to you.
Author:  Psychotic_Rave [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:35 am ]
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You know one of the biggest reasons guys assume you have to be hot to get girls, is because they perceive guys with hot girls to be hot as-well just because they have a hot girl. So you could go as far as to say looks and whats considered "attractive" is built by a social understanding along with social conditioning and Brad Pit ;p
Author:  Warped Mindless [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:44 am ]
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You know one of the biggest reasons guys assume you have to be hot to get girls, is because they perceive guys with hot girls to be hot as-well just because they have a hot girl. So you could go as far as to say looks and whats considered "attractive" is built by a social understanding along with social conditioning and Brad Pit ;p
Exactly. Adam Lyons cites a study that was done a few years back. Basically, a group of scientist took a shit ton of guys and took pics of them. They showed the pics to girls and had the girls rate their physical attractiveness. They then took the same guys and added a chick to the pictures and had more girls rate them. Whne a girl was added, the ratings always went up.

Therefore, guys look sexier when they are by or around women.
Author:  jurupa [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:10 am ]
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lol.

So looks in no way don't matter?

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So when are you going to go out with her?
Author:  Warped Mindless [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:54 am ]
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lol.

So looks in no way don't matter?

Image

So when are you going to go out with her?
Stop trying to pawn your GF off on me.

Anyways, as I'm sure you know, I meant GUYS don't need to be good looking.
Author:  Fin [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:02 pm ]
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100 Blind dates...

Take a blind stab at what was the factor that predicted highest satisfaction/ most likely to continue seeing match after the blind date....



FACIAL ATTRACTIVENESS!

Doing a course on this at uni so I'll drag up the studies within a couplle of days, not only that but looks influence who we employ, who we vote for, who we judge to be more moral, who we judge to be more succesful (and who actually IS more succesful for that matter) on top of that if you are in court, being good looking will reduce your sentance and reduce the actual chances of you being convicted.

WM sorry to burst the bubble mate, but looks matter in this society.

A better phrase would be; "looks matter, but you don't neccessarily need them"
Author:  Jav [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:24 pm ]
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lol.

So looks in no way don't matter?

Image

So when are you going to go out with her?


:roll:

I thought that by 1400 posts you'd have figured out that for males the physical appearance of a female DOES matter. Not the other way around.
Author:  trixsta [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:40 pm ]
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Looks matter to a certain extent. I've got a good looking guy friend and sometimes he gets approached by girls in clubs, whereas I hardly ever do.

Not that I care, but looks obviously matter. But they aren't everything. I don't even consider them to be worth much - but they are worth something.
Author:  Johnny B. [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:29 pm ]
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“It's beauty that captures your attention; personality which captures your heart.”

[ Johnny B ]
Author:  jurupa [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:28 pm ]
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I thought that by 1400 posts you'd have figured out that for males the physical appearance of a female DOES matter. Not the other way around.
I was more poking fun at the op at how looks never matter and yet they do matter to a certain extent. Looks cover more than just physical appearance of ones self. As it also covers how one projects themselves (ie showing/expressing confidence) as well as how they are dress. As first impressions are indeed important. A guy does not need to be physically attractive. But if he is not dress well and does not hold him self well, he will look bad and in turn lower his chances of getting a girl. I am sure by now you know girls will sum you up within 15 seconds of her first seeing you even before you open your mouth to say something.
Author:  ANDeeZY [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:44 pm ]
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looks matter depending on how shallow and how horny the woman is.


Inner game supercedes all.
Author:  jurupa [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:55 pm ]
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Anyways, as I'm sure you know, I meant GUYS don't need to be good looking.
And yet they do. Looks are not everything but they never less matter. Tell me do you dress up for a job interview or do you wear what ever? If you want the job you are going to dress up for the interview as first impressions count. Well guess what the same thing applies to girls. Girls will sum you up within 15 seconds of first seeing you. Which means if you do not come off good looking you are pretty much not going to close the girl. There are more to looks than just your physical looks, as how you look is how you present your self to the world. If you stand tall because you have confident and dress well (meaning you wear clothes that fit your body and show who you are) girls will think you are good looking and/or attractive. As its been pointed out you generally don't need to be actually physically good looking to get girls. It does help but its not key.
Author:  Mr. Amador [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:46 pm ]
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I'm an econ major. I learn a lot of statistics and econometrics.

When you are trying to explain a variable there is something you must know: There's causality and correlation.

"Causality
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Causality is the relationship between an event (the cause) and a second event (the effect), where the second event is a direct consequence of the first.[1]"

Correlation just means that the variables that you are analizing happen to go together. You cant tell how the causality relationship between them: There's no way of knowing what caused what.

"A correlation between age and height in children is fairly causally transparent, but a correlation between mood and health in people is less so. Does improved mood lead to improved health; or does good health lead to good mood; or both? Or does some other factor underlie both? In other words, a correlation can be taken as evidence for a possible causal relationship, but cannot indicate what the causal relationship, if any, might be"

Now back to pick up:

Looks make people get laid?

If we look at the entire male population of the world, good looking guys get laid more than the representative male. But, just the looks make them get chicks? Well, not always.

Since getting laid cant make you more good looking, there must be another factor that gets people laid.

And that factor is... well this whole website is devoted to it, or more correctly to them.

If you are an ugly dude dont let your face be an excuse for not getting laid.

You can look decent enough if you groom and buy some clothes that fit.

I'm a good looking guy, and I had zero game, and virtually no sex life.

Now I have problems with the logistics of having too many girls interested.
Author:  ~Finesse [ Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:40 am ]
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"But warped, you have to have a strong jawline to attract women."

*facepalm*
LOL! Thats all I'mma say. :P :roll:

~Liquid Blend
Author:  madals [ Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:25 pm ]
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Attraction isn't on or off - physical attractiveness effects what level of attraction you have to someone, male or female.

Think of it as a scale, -10 to 10. When you first meet someone, your around 0 (indifferent) and then things they do that increase how much you like them makes them get closer to 10 (you love them) or closer to -10 (you hate them).
Looks effect where you start, if your hot, you start at 4, if your fuck ugly, you start at -4 and if your totally average looking, you start at 0. Now, to understand how looks effect your game, imagine you can only move +/- 10 points from where you start.

Basically, if you start at -4, the maximum someone can be attracted to you is +6. Obviously you can't go aboce +/- 10 in on either end of the scale.

Now, the key thing to deciding if someone will have sex with you is where their "fuck point" is, (generally around 7-8). From this model, you can easily see that as long as you are not more than -2 to start (below average) then the majority of people will still be willing to sleep with you if you do nearly everything else right.

In summery, unless you are very very ugly, being good looking is merely a advantage. Just as being rich is an advantage, or being talented is an advantage etc etc.
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