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| Author: | Chuckde [ Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | learning from Michael Jackson's success |
The man was a legend to say the least. Beyond being a celebrity, he epitomized happiness and self-actualization. He inspired millions of people and gave them an ardent feeling of happiness. Everyone knows the amount of criticism and negative attention he received from the media. But the amount of attention he received for his inspirational music is far greater. Regardless, at work the other day i took note of people still mocking him, not realizing or understanding the legacy he created. He didn't do anything to cause them any personal harm, but for some reason they feel compelled to show disdain. I'm not trying to hate on my co-workers, just trying to learn from their mistakes and Jackson's legacy to make myself more successful. 1. Michael Jackson loved people. He saw the beauty in others, no matter their race (listen to the song "Black or White"). He had a share of haters, but he didn't let them stop him from loving humanity. 2. Extremely Passionate. When you listen to his songs, you can feel the enthusiasm. 3. Even though he had a rough childhood, he prevailed. 4. Did not seek approval for what he did. He did music the way he wanted, and lived his life the way he wanted. I just wanted to pay my respect to him by making this thread. Please feel free to add anything else about him, or talk about how he influenced you. |
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| Author: | Fu$$ [ Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:36 am ] |
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Damn man... Michael Jackson was an unhappy guy who died alone. We cant follow him as an example of life. Im not judging him, most of his troubles cames from a confuse childhood and precocious fame. He was not guilty at all. RIP Michael. Fu$$ |
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| Author: | Kalel [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:46 am ] |
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The real message is that one must first find inner peace in order to become happy. Micheal Jackson had some serious psychological problems dealing with his lost childhood. Rather than dealing with the problems head on, he attempted to solve it through material possessions (neverland) and living vicariously through other people (children). If he had looked inward to solve his problems rather than outward, he might have lived a much fuller and less controversial life. |
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| Author: | Erison [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:54 am ] |
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I was listening to WGCI, a chicago hiphop radio station, and they were discussing on why Michael Jackson was such a legend. It was because he never competed with anyone else. He only competed with himself. He always tried to outdo himself. RIP Michael Jackson |
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| Author: | Fu$$ [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:41 am ] |
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Inner peace. You've said all. Fu$$ |
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| Author: | Chuckde [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:30 am ] |
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The truth is, he did have psychological problems, but he must have made an attempt to solve this in order to reach that success. Perhaps we might be perceiving what the media has fed to us rather than making our own judgement of the man. He had to have had some inner peace in order to influence so many people, isn't that what we try to learn from PUA? We are strengthening our inner game in order to influence others. Why would he be an exception to this? It's true he might have tried to solve his problems with external possessions, but it's still a step towards a solution. And can we really say he didn't try to solve his problems from an internal pov? Or are we becoming victim to the media and to who the media tries to pertain to. Quote: it was because he never competed with anyone else. He only competed with himself. He always tried to outdo himself.
Definitely something to learn from that.
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| Author: | Kalel [ Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:54 am ] |
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You are right, I probably shouldn't be making assumptions about a man I did not know. I wasn't trying to judge the man as a whole. I was just pointing out a lesson that could be taken from his life story(though you are right, I don't know if that story is accurate or not). Quote: He had to have had some inner peace in order to influence so many people
I wish this were true, but you don't need inner peace to influence a lot of people. I doubt if Hitler, Stalin, Osama bin ladin, or Charles manson ever had any inner peace. But they did have the power of influence, which is all you really need to get people to follow you. (Please note that I am not comparing any of these people to MJ, I'm merely using them as negative examples of leaders)Quote: It's true he might have tried to solve his problems with external possessions, but it's still a step towards a solution.
Material goods can never solve a psychological problem. No possession in the world will fix your problems. Buying processions is not a step toward solution, it's a step toward another problem altogether. Quote: And can we really say he didn't try to solve his problems from an internal pov? Or are we becoming victim to the media and to who the media tries to pertain to.
You are Right. The media is ruing a lot of people lives. It always has, but it has recently gotten too powerful. To the point it is actually driving certain stars insane. I miss the days when I could watch the news for the news, and not hear about any gossip.
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| Author: | xibuz [ Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:35 am ] |
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The point is: More money = more of what we had before. MJ never filled the emotional void inside himself. His successful music career led to more false sense of security, more distraction with material posessions, drug use and pedophilia. To be successful with PUA we gotta learn to be happy with ourselves right now. Like mo, money mo bitchez won't help you fill anything missing in your life, but it will give you a false sense of security; if you're unhappy now you will be even more so after you been with over 9000 women and realize you're still empty inside. When you're self concept doesn't depend on anything external to you you can always be happy, and this feeling will will manifest itself everywhere and your mind and body will allign to it. This solves the catch-22 of "You're unhappy because you are lonely, but you're lonely because you are unhappy." I said you wanna be startin somethin, you gotta be startin somethin... |
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| Author: | The Wicker Man [ Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:04 pm ] |
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The reason people still mock him is because he thought it was normal to share his bed with children. |
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| Author: | atlmike [ Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:15 am ] |
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I think you have to separate the artist from his art. His art - incredible. brilliant. The artist - a mess. |
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| Author: | Kalel [ Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:55 am ] |
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The artist - a mess.
A friend of mine had a theory that I found quite interesting. He said that the way MJ described his love of children, was not that of a pedophile, but that of a woman. His theory was that MJ was a woman trapped in a man's body, and he never dealt with it. His counter-argument to the whole pedophile issue, was that if a woman had done the same thing that MJ did, it would never make the news because the world's perception of women's relationship with children is vastly different than it's view of men in the same scenario. I don't know if I agree with it or not, but it was a very convincing argument at the time. |
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| Author: | atlmike [ Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | my final thoughts on MJ... |
of course, i'm not on this forum to discuss michael jackson, but a good friend of mine used to own a store in the mall of america. they sold painted copies of famous paintings. he was working one day, and an entourage came in and in the middle was michael jackson. he found a painting of a naked boy and asked my friend if he knew where the original was. this story was told to me by the person that it happened to, not one of those friend's friend heard about stories. when he was investigated, law enforcement found copies of porn magazines with MJ's prints and children's prints, with the wine bottles...aka jesus juice. court testimony was that he masterbated children too. he also paid mult-millions in out of court to different people. all circumstantial, i know...but it all adds up. where there's smoke... anyway...certainly not trying to get into a debate. could actually not care less about him. i felt worse for billy mayes and his family. but i feel worse for my lame game! |
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| Author: | Chief [ Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:31 pm ] |
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| Author: | simplyraw [ Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:24 am ] |
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Hahaha, I was thinking the same thing
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