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Author:  870 [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Let's talk about EGO

I make no secret of the fact that I am a giant egomaniac. I am a full-blown narcissist in the most literal sense of the word; I love everything about myself. I'm intelligent, capable and devastatingly charming with an ass that just doesn't quit--yep, I'm the total package. And that is the good kind of ego. It gives me a sense of self-worth that's completely independent of validation from the opposite sex. It gives me courage to do what I have to do in life because I will never succumb to self-doubt.

But self-love also has a darker side and to disregard it is to become trapped by it. That's what I want to talk about today, and to do so I am going to tell you all a very personal story from my life.

Up until I was about 17, I did not believe I was capable of feeling positive emotions. Until that point, all I had ever experienced on the spectrum of feelings was "really pissed off" or "indifferent." In spite of this, I had always been good with the ladies and simply resigned myself to the fact that I would never fall hopelessly in love the way most people seemed to.

Then she came along and my life was irreversibly put on a radically different course.

Let's call her Ashley. As far as I was concerned, Ashley was flawless--a perfect 10 by anyone's standards, brilliantly intelligent, funny without being pretentious, free of any inhibitions and insecurities, the total package. Every time I looked at her my heart body-checked my chest. We held identical world views on issues where it mattered and our differences complimented each other amazingly well. If you've heard Style's 100% perfect girl routine, then you know the concept that applies to my relationship with this girl. It was fate. We were soulmates.

And for about a year, things got along swimmingly. Predictably, we never fought, and only seemed to grow more and more in love with each other. I couldn't believe my luck! I had finally found those elusive emotions tucked away somewhere inside of me and they blossomed into something indescribably fantastic.

Eventually, as it always does, it began to rain in paradise. One night, during a session of "let's fight so we can have hot makeup sex," we decided to call it quits over something so inconsequential I don't even remember what it was. Young and naive at the time, my first instinct was to go out and pick up somebody new. Why? I'm not sure. Maybe I thought it was something I had to prove--to her, to myself, to my friends. Who knows? The point is, I did it. This is how ego can hurt you.

The next morning, Ashley came over unannounced to talk things over; needless to say, she wasn't pleased with the random girl still asleep in my bed. Sure, I had done nothing morally wrong (we were broken up), but I know now how betrayed she must've felt, because she made me feel it too.

I got a call later that night from my best friend, who filled me in on her attempt at seducing him earlier in the evening. He's a stand-up guy (seriously, I could never ask for a better friend) so he didn't do it, but I was still crushed. "How could she do this to someone she supposedly loved?" I asked angrily. The irony wouldn't strike me until later--this is how ego can hurt you.

But what about our unbreakable bond? It was still there, and in the aftermath of all this, I still saw (and slept with) her on a regular basis, because for the following 6 months she tried desperately to get back together with me. She'd bring me flowers. She'd show up randomly and sing me romantic songs. She did everything she could to communicate how sorry she was for everything that had happened, and my pride kept me ignorant of it all. This is how ego can hurt you.

I thought I had to be an example to my friends that you don't have to take a bunch of crap from women. I thought I had to punish her for disrespecting me in such a vulgar way. And by the time I came around to the idea that maybe, just maybe, none of that shit matters and what's important is being with the person you're madly in love with, she had finally given up on me and found somebody new. This is how ego can crush you.

Ego can do a lot of things for you, but it can also hold you back from what's really important. Lots of guys tell themselves, "Cold approaching is for losers, if a girl wants me she'll come to me!" They tell themselves, "I'm fine the way I am. Why should I change?" Rather than actually being the best they can be, they justify things in their mind so that they can live in an illusion of already being there.

There is a lot of ego in this community, some of it the good kind and some of it bad. Sometimes the most important thing a man can do is regularly take a cold hard look at who he is, weed out the bad, emphasize the good and reach a whole new echelon of awesome. Don't wait and learn this lesson the way I did.

Your boy,
870

Author:  madals [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:54 pm ]
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F*uck.
That story made me see that starting to form in me. Thankyou.

Sometimes you just see something in yourself when you see it in someone else. This post did that for me. Luckly I am only starting to have some of the traits you had. But it was the wakeup call i needed to avoid it.

I am still on the self-confidence side 99% of the time tho :) just gotta sort out that 1%.
Madals

Author:  Chrosiris [ Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:36 am ]
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Holy shit dude. I did the same thing happened with the girl I dated in high school and my most recent girlfriend. I can totally verify that what you are saying is true.

Author:  Chino Kapone [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:13 am ]
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Author:  samex [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:13 pm ]
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This story is full of awesomeness, and in a way i don't if know the lesson was worth it, only you can say.

But if you really want to read an unbelievable book on ego, I highly recommend " A New Earth" by Eckhart Tolle, as it talks a lot about ego, and touch upon the stuff the you mentioned.

samex

Author:  flypapermeems [ Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:18 am ]
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dang.
*hugs*

good lesson though. ego can be useful but... it can be detrimental. at least you learned from it. humility is a good quality.

Author:  Rhum [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:19 am ]
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Interesting post. Something similar happened to me. You're right but I believe that most people realize this after their first serious relationship. If they think the way they did then it is more like a battle then a relationship.

Author:  madals [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:59 am ]
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After thinking about this more there is a simple line to follow:
Know your amazing but know your not automatically better than other people.

Origionally i was going to say knoy our not better than anyone else but i later realised that isnt 100% correct. In some things people will be better than others which makes them better for that purpose, but just because your good at something doesnt mean your a better person than someone who isnt good at it.

Author:  soup [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:55 pm ]
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sorry i skim read this, so this might not be totally related, bad habit but im in a bit of a rush.
Anyway, this quote:
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There is a lot of ego in this community, some of it the good kind and some of it bad.
this reminded me of an article I read a while back

Ego vs Self Esteem

http://www.rsdwiki.com/index.php?title=The_New_RSD

Author:  870 [ Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:56 am ]
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The gist of what I wanted to convey with this story is right here:
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I thought I had to be an example to my friends that you don't have to take a bunch of crap from women. I thought I had to punish her for disrespecting me in such a vulgar way. And by the time I came around to the idea that maybe, just maybe, none of that shit matters and what's important is being with the person you're madly in love with, she had finally given up on me and found somebody new. This is how ego can crush you.
Once you develop yourself to a certain point in this "game," there comes a time (and usually a special woman along with it) where it's not only appropriate but necessary to shed the rules and principals that governed your interactions with the opposite sex and defined your reality in terms of attracting them. Those rules and principals eventually become cumbersome and limiting rather than helpful, and the point of my original post was to make others aware of this fact so they could recognize that time when it came.

In the absence of the chat, I've been scrounging around the internet for other things to occupy my time at work. While doing so, I stumbled upon a note I wrote on Facebook about a year and a half ago discussing a similar topic. Though my perspective has changed a little since I wrote this, many of the points are still valid to the discussion. Give it a read if you want:
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Throughout history the underlying premise of mankind's greatest love stories has always been one of sacrifice. From Romeo and Juliet in Shakespeare's time to the love stories embraced by our generation such as The Notebook, the best of the genre always involves the main characters finding their "one true love" and thereafter sacrificing something (or everything) important to them in order to keep it, often overcoming ridiculous odds to do so. These characters seem to participate in this exchange without hesitation, never doubting that what they are doing is completely justified by the feelings they have for the object of their affection. The message is clear and it resonates with any person who has a soul: complete, true love is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and nothing, including your dignity or honor, is above parting with in the name of holding on to it.

It is in this regard that I am reminded of the often-used cliche "life imitates art," because if that statement holds true it follows that the same principals espoused by these great love stories should also apply to our relationships here in the real world. As anyone who's ever thought they were in love but wound up alone can tell you, that is most certainly not the case.

The truth is that, while all anyone really wants is to have a relationship so fulfilling and faultless that both parties have no inhibitions in terms of the lengths they will go to preserve it, those who are willing to surrender their dignity in order to do so once they have that relationship are very few indeed, if they exist at all. Our pride lends credence to the belief that any attempt to reclaim love after the relationship comes to an end makes us look pathetic and weak; the irony therein being that it is actually evidence of great strength and conviction. But we cannot sleep with our ego. It won't comfort us when we are down; it will not fill the place in our hearts reserved for that "special someone." It wouldn't even exist if we didn't permit it to. So are we really to believe that forfeiting this useless idea in return for the love of that one special person isn't a worthwhile exchange?

I would ask anyone who reads this to take an honest look at their romantic history. How many times have you thought you had a good thing with someone, only to have the relationship end for whatever reason, and then never speak to them again? And in the aftermath of those relationships, how many times did you silently hope that they would call you, or come over, or do anything to prove that the time you spent together wasn't just in your head--that those blissful events and feelings you remember actually existed for both of you?

The tragic conclusion of this note is painfully clear: your former significant other was almost certainly hoping for the same thing from you and if only one of you had done it, the useless dignity you yielded to do so may well have produced an experience worthy of becoming the basis for the next great love story.
The bottom line is, at the end of the day nobody (including you) is going to care whether you "stuck to your guns" and "taught that girl a lesson" or not. These things only exist because you allow your ego to dictate them to your mind.

All that should truly matter in your world should be who or what makes you happy. Don't let your ego scare you out of hanging on to it.

Your boy,
870

Author:  Chrosiris [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:25 am ]
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It feels good to win the battle but sucks to find out you've lost the war. I've done the same thing and I bet the whole time you felt like you were in control of the outcome until you found out about the other guy. I know I sure did. For me it was kind of a sick way of seeing just how far she would go to please me until she completely gave up on me. Crushed is an excellent word because that's exactly what I was. Thanks for the post man.

Author:  yoyomaa [ Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:47 am ]
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You not only end up hurting yourself but alot of people will think you are a fool along the way.

When I talk up myself in the wrong way I find myself looking like one of the guys from the TV show "The Tool Academy". It's so damn easy to look like one of those nimrods when you are talking about how awesome you are.

So be careful out there guys...you don't want to be the only one who thinks you are great.

Author:  Mack 2.0 [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:17 am ]
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I agree with the original poster, and that was a hell of an article he submitted here. I've done the same thing. Once. With my first love. It haunted me for a long time.

I think it's a lose-lose though. When that happens, you either go ego trip and lose the girl, or you accept her bullshit and she walks all over you from that day forward until you lose the girl.

I've come to accept it as the natural order of things. I'd rather lose with my head held high.

Sign me up for good (and bad) ego.

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