PUA Forum :: Confidence building courses, do they work?

I have a bit of a big decision to make, im unemployed and my life isn't going anywhere far but i've been considering taking a confidence course over the last month, it's going to set me back close to €1,000 however which is almost all I have left. The companies that do them will always only post the positive reviews, i've looked around for negative reviews and found none, is there anyone who's actually taken one of these courses and believe it's not worth it?

im unemployed and my life isn't going anywhere

@TheMajikalMethod You didn't answer my question man but thanks for explaining that

@Timo To be honest, I wasn't sure and that's why im asking. You think i'd be better off spending more time outside and with more people perhaps and earning and building confidence myself? I've learned that money doesn't buy happiness at all, seems it has to be earned. Maybe ill just stick to my 'The rules of the game - Neil Strauss' book and try to master that instead

@slimjimm000 Yeah, it is a ridiculous amount of money for something thats not even guarenteed to work, might as well be gambling 8 weeks worth of money, time and energy when I could be spending it on something more productive. The thing is, im not exactly sure what to do, I know I need to get out more and get rid of my shyness though

@Timo To be honest, I wasn't sure and that's why im asking. You think i'd be better off spending more time outside and with more people perhaps and earning and building confidence myself? I've learned that money doesn't buy happiness at all, seems it has to be earned. Maybe ill just stick to my 'The rules of the game - Neil Strauss' book and try to master that instead

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It was actually kind of a rhetorical question, but I can spell the answer out for you: a confidence course is not going to get you a job or a goal in life. Those are things you have to do yourself. Self-confidence arises when you have high self-esteem. So what builds self-esteem? Well, everything that makes you feel good about you. A surefire way to do this is to set yourself challenging goals and subsequently achieve them. Getting a job is probably a good start.

Also, money can buy happiness: http://dunn.psych.ubc.ca/files/2012/09/ ... 9-main.pdf

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Self confidence will come when you set goals for your self and reach them. Instead of having one big goal for yourself to become the "best account" or what ever it is you want to be, set small goals and as you achieve them, your feelings of confidence will grow.

@meetjoeblack I think I will give the unemployment agency a try. I noticed women are attracted to men, not boys, it might have been my fear of fully growing up that was causing problems. I do look kind of young for my age (People still confuse me for a teenager) but I look much better when I dress up in a shirt, and not a hood. Yes, it is about time I got myself a job, im much more than capable of one, i've got great talent and it's going to complete waste, cheers for the tip man

Author:	LeeEvansFan41 [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:29 am ]
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I have a bit of a big decision to make, im unemployed and my life isn't going anywhere far but i've been considering taking a confidence course over the last month, it's going to set me back close to €1,000 however which is almost all I have left. The companies that do them will always only post the positive reviews, i've looked around for negative reviews and found none, is there anyone who's actually taken one of these courses and believe it's not worth it?

Author:	Jay (Majik) [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:54 am ]
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Quote: I have a bit of a big decision to make, im unemployed and my life isn't going anywhere far but i've been considering taking a confidence course over the last month, it's going to set me back close to €1,000 however which is almost all I have left. The companies that do them will always only post the positive reviews, i've looked around for negative reviews and found none, is there anyone who's actually taken one of these courses and believe it's not worth it? Confidence is a state of mind. Not something that you do or don't have. It is a combination of chemical reactions in your brain that create a particular feeling. Everyone has felt confident in themselves about SOMETHING before. If you can think back to a time when you were extremely confident in doing something or saying something, you can learn to create this particular state at any time you would like. You can use your past experiences so you can force yourself to feel this way if you know what the feeling of confidence means to YOU.

Author:	User13247 [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:06 pm ]
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Quote: im unemployed and my life isn't going anywhere You think a 'confidence course' is gonna fix that? I'm pretty sure I can tell you the main takeaway from that course right now: get a job and set a goal in your life. See? I saved you the trouble of having to go. You owe me $1000 though.

Author:	slimjimm000 [ Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:14 am ]
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instead of buying a confidence course, invest the money, start a business with it, or invest in education. you dont get confidence with a course you have to get it yourself.

Author:	LeeEvansFan41 [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:09 pm ]
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@TheMajikalMethod You didn't answer my question man but thanks for explaining that @Timo To be honest, I wasn't sure and that's why im asking. You think i'd be better off spending more time outside and with more people perhaps and earning and building confidence myself? I've learned that money doesn't buy happiness at all, seems it has to be earned. Maybe ill just stick to my 'The rules of the game - Neil Strauss' book and try to master that instead @slimjimm000 Yeah, it is a ridiculous amount of money for something thats not even guarenteed to work, might as well be gambling 8 weeks worth of money, time and energy when I could be spending it on something more productive. The thing is, im not exactly sure what to do, I know I need to get out more and get rid of my shyness though

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Author:	poeticlyskuac [ Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:35 pm ]
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Quote: @TheMajikalMethod You didn't answer my question man but thanks for explaining that @Timo To be honest, I wasn't sure and that's why im asking. You think i'd be better off spending more time outside and with more people perhaps and earning and building confidence myself? I've learned that money doesn't buy happiness at all, seems it has to be earned. Maybe ill just stick to my 'The rules of the game - Neil Strauss' book and try to master that instead @slimjimm000 Yeah, it is a ridiculous amount of money for something thats not even guarenteed to work, might as well be gambling 8 weeks worth of money, time and energy when I could be spending it on something more productive. The thing is, im not exactly sure what to do, I know I need to get out more and get rid of my shyness though Hey dude, If you want access to my confidence program (<-website) pm me or email, it may not be as in depth as 1k worth but as it stands I have very positive reviews on my program coming in. I am planning to add more on self-limiting beliefs but this program is very solid all around(which will be a whole other aspect that will make it a lot more expensive). My program is aimed at making you happy as well as confident and raising your self-esteem. The website is kind of slow right(so be patient) now but I'm going to have it moved to a faster host by the end of this week. Here is a link to my confidence program (the course already went up and will go up again). Here is a posters recent review of it: Core Self-Confidence Program Review to-make-other-people-happy-vt158590.html Plus I'll be here for you along the way to help with the program, I only want to help people achieve the self-confidence and high self-esteem they are after. Remember this is only the beginning of pick up, not the end. The self-limiting beliefs aspect is in the works and will be finished within the month but if you are having serious issues in one area we can set up a SPAM to talk more and I'll help you with some self-limiting beliefs. I won't lie it's not easy going through the program it makes you change big parts of your life (which is why it works, obviously if what you were doing worked you would be confident already). Either way good luck with your confidence, I could also recommend a number of confidence books to help you if you'd like. Peace and Love, Vic

Author:	User13247 [ Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:02 pm ]
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Quote: @Timo To be honest, I wasn't sure and that's why im asking. You think i'd be better off spending more time outside and with more people perhaps and earning and building confidence myself? I've learned that money doesn't buy happiness at all, seems it has to be earned. Maybe ill just stick to my 'The rules of the game - Neil Strauss' book and try to master that instead It was actually kind of a rhetorical question, but I can spell the answer out for you: a confidence course is not going to get you a job or a goal in life. Those are things you have to do yourself. Self-confidence arises when you have high self-esteem. So what builds self-esteem? Well, everything that makes you feel good about you. A surefire way to do this is to set yourself challenging goals and subsequently achieve them. Getting a job is probably a good start. Also, money can buy happiness: http://dunn.psych.ubc.ca/files/2012/09/ ... 9-main.pdf

Author:	Jay (Majik) [ Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:15 am ]
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Quote: Quote: @Timo To be honest, I wasn't sure and that's why im asking. You think i'd be better off spending more time outside and with more people perhaps and earning and building confidence myself? I've learned that money doesn't buy happiness at all, seems it has to be earned. Maybe ill just stick to my 'The rules of the game - Neil Strauss' book and try to master that instead It was actually kind of a rhetorical question, but I can spell the answer out for you: a confidence course is not going to get you a job or a goal in life. Those are things you have to do yourself. Self-confidence arises when you have high self-esteem. So what builds self-esteem? Well, everything that makes you feel good about you. A surefire way to do this is to set yourself challenging goals and subsequently achieve them. Getting a job is probably a good start. Also, money can buy happiness: http://dunn.psych.ubc.ca/files/2012/09/ ... 9-main.pdf Self confidence will come when you set goals for your self and reach them. Instead of having one big goal for yourself to become the "best account" or what ever it is you want to be, set small goals and as you achieve them, your feelings of confidence will grow.

Author:	poeticlyskuac [ Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:42 am ]
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Quote: Quote: Quote: @Timo To be honest, I wasn't sure and that's why im asking. You think i'd be better off spending more time outside and with more people perhaps and earning and building confidence myself? I've learned that money doesn't buy happiness at all, seems it has to be earned. Maybe ill just stick to my 'The rules of the game - Neil Strauss' book and try to master that instead It was actually kind of a rhetorical question, but I can spell the answer out for you: a confidence course is not going to get you a job or a goal in life. Those are things you have to do yourself. Self-confidence arises when you have high self-esteem. So what builds self-esteem? Well, everything that makes you feel good about you. A surefire way to do this is to set yourself challenging goals and subsequently achieve them. Getting a job is probably a good start. Also, money can buy happiness: http://dunn.psych.ubc.ca/files/2012/09/ ... 9-main.pdf Self confidence will come when you set goals for your self and reach them. Instead of having one big goal for yourself to become the "best account" or what ever it is you want to be, set small goals and as you achieve them, your feelings of confidence will grow. Self-Confidence is more than accomplishing goals ime, it's a ton more. It's about being happy with who you are the direction your going, and the future you hold. It's about comfort with who you are, not just experiences. Self confidence is about a lot, experience is definitely the biggest piece of the puzzle but still merely a piece. Money doesn't buy happiness, I started reading that article and planning on finishing it but some of the happiest people in the world make shit for money. Watch the documentary Happy. It's not the money that makes them happy it's their outlook on life. Happiness doesn't come from the fly ride or the big house but Happiness is not bought, it's the experiences that are bought. So while your statement holds some validity it's not true overall otherwise rich people would never be unhappy but shit loads of them are while a poor person would never be happy, but this simply isn't true. Your outlook means more to your happiness then anything else, being gracious for having a car is what makes you happy not wanting a beamer over your civic. Peace and Love, Vic

Author:	LeeEvansFan41 [ Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:40 pm ]
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@Timo Hmm, I never really thought about spending money that way, it makes sense when we think about it. Well, I can get work and stuff, but I seem to have problems keeping a job. I often feel very burnt out and moody the majority of the time in a workplace and im pretty sure my confidence may have something to do with that, I know confidence alone can't get ones desires in life, they require time, energy and sometimes study, but confidence makes the whole thing easier. I was a very confident child, always the best in class and everyone loved me, that all changed though when a teacher began singling me out daily and of course the rest of the class believed it was okay to do that, unfortunately I never learned how to be assertive, I just get aggressive in situations like that and it just lands me in more trouble @TheMajikalMethod Thanks for the good advice, small goals rather than big goals sound much more managable, basically facing things a little bit at a time and growing stronger each day, im pretty sure Sasha (PUA) said something like that once @poeticlyskuac I think im happy with the person I am, intelligent, good looking and not afraid to like what I truely like and not what society wants me to like. Unfortunately, a lot of negativity has built up and i've lost the drive to go for what I want, im happy with who I am on the inside, but not on the outside, I had a very close friend who was basically me, but on the outside, there's a pretty big difference, we have everything in common, looks, charm ect, but he seems to have no problem bringing these positive traits to the surface. Yeah, I guess ones outlook does matter, I always see things negatively unfortunately, being grateful on what one already has is obviously better than being ungrateful on what one doesn't have

Author:	meetjoeblack [ Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:42 am ]
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Quote: I have a bit of a big decision to make, im unemployed and my life isn't going anywhere far but i've been considering taking a confidence course over the last month, it's going to set me back close to €1,000 however which is almost all I have left. The companies that do them will always only post the positive reviews, i've looked around for negative reviews and found none, is there anyone who's actually taken one of these courses and believe it's not worth it? That is ridiculous. Sign off here, go to an unemployment agency (not a temp agency), seek an apprenticeship like electrical or something worth while. They can subsidize education for you. A friend got one and is loving it. The economy is bad cause people piss away their last dollar on nonsense. Get a job. I can upload Paul Mckenna's confidence hypnosis CD and link it to you in PM and you can dub it off vidtomp3.com instead. When you got money, do a Date with Destiny Tony Robbins seminar or other, Not go broke or run up visa debt.

Author:	LeeEvansFan41 [ Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:25 pm ]
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@meetjoeblack I think I will give the unemployment agency a try. I noticed women are attracted to men, not boys, it might have been my fear of fully growing up that was causing problems. I do look kind of young for my age (People still confuse me for a teenager) but I look much better when I dress up in a shirt, and not a hood. Yes, it is about time I got myself a job, im much more than capable of one, i've got great talent and it's going to complete waste, cheers for the tip man

Author:	meetjoeblack [ Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:37 pm ]
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Quote: @meetjoeblack I think I will give the unemployment agency a try. I noticed women are attracted to men, not boys, it might have been my fear of fully growing up that was causing problems. I do look kind of young for my age (People still confuse me for a teenager) but I look much better when I dress up in a shirt, and not a hood. Yes, it is about time I got myself a job, im much more than capable of one, i've got great talent and it's going to complete waste, cheers for the tip man Try the employment agency. Ones like northern lights or others. If you work part time at least 20hrs a wk, they can't help you much, and well, turn this negative into a positive. You could get into a trade, do side jobs under your own business, and invest money. How old are you?

Author:	LeeEvansFan41 [ Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:07 pm ]
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Im willing to work full time, for quite a long time I felt I wasn't 'able' to work because I was often put down by others at school, the truth is though, im more intelligent than most, i'll be 25 in July

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