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Author:  Big_Country [ Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:46 pm ]
Post subject:  my problem is how i was raised...
I grew up in the Bible belt south and my parents made me go to church everyday the doors were open. It has severely affected my game causing me to be maybe a bit too respectful of women and very conservative. Its hard to "game" a woman and be too aggressive about it...

It would Really help if anyone has any comments or something that could help get rid of this overwhelming sense of being the non-aggressive good guy.
Author:  JSmooth [ Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: my problem is how i was raised...
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I grew up in the Bible belt south and my parents made me go to church everyday the doors were open. It has severely affected my game causing me to be maybe a bit too respectful of women and very conservative. Its hard to "game" a woman and be too aggressive about it...

It would Really help if anyone has any comments or something that could help get rid of this overwhelming sense of being the non-aggressive good guy.
I grew up in Southern Kentucky in much the same situation. I live in Nashville... all part of the bible belt as you know. There is nothing wrong with being respectful of women. However you can still tease, neg, and do other things to entice women.

Keep in mind that women are sexual creatures that want the compliment of being approached, and paid the compliment of being picked up. The other day I approached a sexy christian woman doing bible study with her friend in Starbucks. Turned out she was married, but her words were, "Thank you for coming over here though. If I was single...I'd totally give you my number." She's married but she feels good that she's out and was looking good enough to get approached. :)

You can still be have good christian values and meet & attract the women of your dreams.
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:35 pm ]
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i was raised with the bible as well.. i had very absent parents .. not many friends or whatever. in almost all years of my life i didn't had social contacts ..
shitty youth...not many friends.. most people didn't give a shit about me...when i was small like 8 or 10 years old people just laughed when i fucked up ( family blabla)

anyway im a very solid person.. i can do whatever i want anytime...im experienced in psychology , art , physics , maths , languages, biology , botany, sports, fencing , philosphy ... kind of polymath... nobody taught me .. i taught myself.

I HAVE TOOK 100 % EFFORT to change and believe me it too fucking 6 years to fix some major issues... it took years to learn psychology and to look into my own mind , and that is very hard to do if you have nobody in your life to reflect on.

last week i was sitting on a couch talking with a psychiatrist ( someone i know ) and i started crying because my parents never REALLY gave damn about me. about 6 years ago i commited suicide .. i told my parents about it but they never listened to me, they just kept watching TV and they didn't really care.

i never knew i cared , i couldn't really remember the emotions ... i mean there are so many things form our youth in our unconcious

in general im a good person .. i care about people... but it was really hard for me to accept the fact that other people DO not care about you. All people have self interest and they will fuck you over in a heartbeat...

im not saying all people are bad ... im saying Almost all people are bad

you have the person who you want to be
and you have the person you are

to change you have to stop accepting yourself which is very painfull... this is what is called inner game.

in the bible you learn rules to respect other people but it doesn't work these days. Christian values don't work.. believe me i have tried them. im not saying you shouldn't use christain values .. but if you use them , o boy be preparded to be fucked over alot of times.

the truth :

do not be respectfull to woman at all ..

most woman cheat .. fuckover their friends and family .. there are alot of terrible woman .. the majority of woman are terrible. People need to earn your respect... don't make it easy for them.. .surround yourself with good people.

Do not trust people straight away .
Author:  $uave [ Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:47 am ]
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Lode...


you make me sad.
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:01 pm ]
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nothing to be sad about .. it's just the ancient case of being a nice guy... getting fucked over over and over....and trying to respect other people in the meantime

People will fuck you over in a heartbeat... they do not give a fuck IF they have self interest... if a woman is attracted she will care about you... if she isn't attracted she won't give a fuck....

wake the fuck up and stop floating in this pink elephant and imaginary fluffy sugercoated pink pony reality.... everyone is fucking over other people and everyone is lying to themselfs...

does that mean the world is a dark place... no
does that mean you have the right to arm yourself against whatever and whoever .. yes
Author:  $uave [ Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:53 pm ]
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thanks, but I'll stick with my pink pony reality.
Author:  Entrokinetic [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:42 pm ]
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This is My advice, Women have no Mercy whatsoever there are A LOT worse the Men.
In the game You have to forget about Your emotions : ) try to be a little bit selfish, but just a little bit. If You are too nice women would not respect You.
Author:  Stand Up [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:58 pm ]
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Girls like the back and forth of light teasing. They thrive on it, they do it with boyfriends and their girlfriends. Learning to flirt and do that is actually very respectful, making someone happy is the ultimate respect.
Author:  $uave [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:23 pm ]
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being a nice guy is often confused with being a pussy...

what's being "nice" to you?

to me it is helping out when people need my help, trying not be an asshole to them for no reason.

Not being "aggressive" (I suppose u mean escalating) is a question of balls. You don't have to be jerk. In fact, in my experience, you're better off not being a jerk.

That doesn't mean you don't have to create sexual vibe, kino, and close.

As for your social conditioning-it's most likely because of your attitude to PU. Try looking into Zan Perrion's staff. He'll show you different outlook on the game.

Hope it helps.
Author:  galaxy_pua [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: my problem is how i was raised...
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I grew up in the Bible belt south... it has severely affected my game causing me to be maybe a bit too respectful of women and very conservative. Its hard to "game" a woman and be too aggressive about it...
hahaha, man I was also raised in pure Christian family.. and I see the way it affects your game. It sucks.

But you have some moral values, that are only good for you.

When I've realized I am able to game a 3set of chicks to make them want to have 4somes with me (and they actually were taking me home already), I stepped away from doing it, because of the christian beliefs that I still have in my brain.

Good luck!
Author:  Lionel [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:31 am ]
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Problem ? Well, 99.9 % of parents don't have a clue of how to raise children. At school people learn languages, biology, chemistry, mathematics ... but the really important things like politics and raising children are not learned. So don't blame your parents. They raised you as good as they could given the knowledge they had. I also have issues because of the way I was raised but I don't blame my parents for that. The way they raised me gave me a disadvantage when it comes to women, but it gave huge advantages when it came to other things. I am an engineer with a PhD degree. As I was the first born child, I was raised the most strict of all. And that is also why I am the only child at home with a PhD degree. Thanks to the same raising as a teenager I have played soccer in the first division of the youth teams in my country. Those times were great. I played against the biggest teams in Europe. Now, at work I am considered as a very reliable source. When problems have to be solved I can always find the discipline to solve them. When the pressure is needed, I know how to handle it. All thanks to the way I was raised. With women I suck because AA cripples me. This is also due to the way I was raised. But am I going to blame my parents because they told me I have to respect other people ? Is that the mistake my parents made ? Trying to make educate me ?

So stop complaining about your parents. Nobody can do a perfect job; especially of they were not trained for it. Be thankful your parents gave you moral and standard. Realize that the way they raised you, will give you benefits in other areas in your life. And if there are areas in which you think you are not developed enough due to the way you were raised, then work on those areas yourself. Your parents are not obliged to make a superhuman. They do the best they can so that you can achieve things in as many areas as possible. If there are other areas where you lack things, you are the only responsible for improving them. You are a grown up man. BEHAVE like on. Take your destiny in your own hands. Stop whining like a little baby. Be a man and find a solution to your problem.
Author:  40 year old virgins broth [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:03 am ]
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really religious convictions only affect one aspect...bedding, and maybe having multiple partners.

so if u use the systems to meet a woman u want to spend time with, then there should be no conflict at all.

I would say that would be the least of your problems. See if it works(and that's a big IF) first, and u can always tone it down and gear it how u want once u master it.
Author:  Allahz Apostle [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:28 am ]
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Don't be afraid to open yourself up to demonic entities, and the Satanic lifestyle. I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. Jesus isn't the ruler of this world, Lord Lucifer is. All people act in accordance with his will, which is to pursue their fleshly desires. These ho's are programmed from birth to give up the pussy, so go claim it. And don't be ashamed of those biological drives, because Father Lucifer created bitches to be fucked. Anyone who thinks sex is bad is retarded, because the True Creator designed it that way to ensure the survival of the species.
Author:  40 year old virgins broth [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:39 am ]
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Lucifers a fag.

yeah sex got us here, but we are millions of years removed from that now, thats why we wear rubbers. your buddy satan didnt plan on rubbers,

so if lucifer was so brilliant, why couldn he forsee the problems fucking can cause, if not restricted.

u may think fathering 9 kids with 9 different women is cool, but I dont
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