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Author:  Gaia_16 [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:51 am ]
Post subject:  Need overcoming AA Material

Hey gus, I just wanted to ask if any of you had some books or hipnosis tapes for overcoming AA. I would really appreciate such help.

Author:  natedizzle [ Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:23 pm ]
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I've read countless numbers of books and tapes and I'm going to give you a piece of advice I wish I had before. Never rely on books or tapes for overcoming AA, I'm not hating on them because they have great advice but you will never learn to get over AA by reading, only by experience. You could ask the best PUA's out there and they all will say they had to go through trial and error just like everyone else to get good at this stuff. The good news is it is worth getting rejected a couple of times because the only way to get over AA is to approach people. Go out and ask 3 people what time it is then walk away. Once your comfortable with that go out and ask people for directions to some random place, then once your comfortable with that go direct or use an opinion opener and start a conversation. That's what I did but bottom line is if you want this bad enough you have to be willing to go out and make the sacrifice, all pua is, is learning to become comfortable talking to people on the street and being able to convey your personality quickly and easily. Hope that helped.

Author:  Lionel [ Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:46 pm ]
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Hi Gaya,

It all depends which kind of AA you have. If it is rather small, the typical PUA advice can help. In worst case you can do a 1 day bootcamp in which a coach (mentally and/or physically) pushes you in set. I have seen many guys get over their AA with this approach. I even cured some of my friends of their AA by implementing this method. However, if your AA is really really bad, you need psychological SPAM.

The most important thing you need to know is that any fear you have is the direct result of the way you think. Your beliefs are the cause of your fears. A baby is not scared of a tiger because he doesn't realize the tiger can kill him. Once grows up he will be scared as hell when he sees a tiger because due to his experience he has the (valid) belief "A tiger can kill me". The same holds for any kind of social fears. You have AA because you have a long list of limiting beliefs that generate your AA/fear. The first thing you need to do is to figure out what those beliefs are. Then, you have to change these beliefs and make them more rational and test them in real life. However, these real life tests have to be designed in a good way because if the real life test is too anxiety producing, your fear will not go away and might even get worse.

That is why typical dating coaching won't get you over AA if your AA is really bad. My AA has always been really bad and I did do these types of coaching and they even made the problem worse. One of these bootcamps destroyed my self-esteem so badly that in a next bootcamp I simply started crying when the coach started to push me hardly. I felt sooo ashamed because I would never have imagined to get tears in my eyes in public. I felt totally embarased at the time. Luckily I started focusing on psychology and I found out that my tears were normal. It took me several weeks to have my self-esteem restored. So get out of your comfort zone while changing your beliefs at the same time. But don't make too big steps. Feeling a little bit of anxiety is ok. But if you do things that make you feel extremely anxious, you are making your AA worse.

To tell you where I am at the moment ... I am doing cognitive behavorial therapy (CBT) to get over my AA. I am still not over my AA yet. But I feel much more at ease now when I go out or start speaking to strangers. I feel much more confident. When a girl gives me a "bad" look when I make eye contact with her, it doesn't hurt me anymore. If a girl keeps returning eye contact, I can hold it as long as I want; sometimes even a whole minute if she really plays along. And I can also say simple "Hi"'s to women that pass me. If I get introduced to a woman I can keep myself calm and have a normal ( but boring though ;) ) conversation. I also see myself approaching now in places where I would never see me approach. From a PUA point of view I am definitely not even close where I should be yet. But for me, these are all big steps. And I made these big steps by making little small steps at a time. And I do expect to be able to cold approach women within 2 to 3 months. This CBT approach was more helpfull to me than a complete year of forcing myself to approach and attend bootcamps. I made more progress in 2 months of CBT than I would in 10 years of forcing myself.

I hope this helps.

Author:  Gaia_16 [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:17 am ]
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Thank you both guys you really helped.
And Lionel I dont think my AA is too bad, Im able to talk to strangers and so but its specifically when talking or approaching girls Im attracted to when I get a bit nervous. As you said my whole nervousism is due to the fear of rejection and all those limiting beliefs Ive set upon myself, Ill try to improve my confidence bit by bit ;) and I also have to get out there and start practicing A LOT otherwise I will remain the same way Im right now!

Author:  Prophet'sOracle [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:11 am ]
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I've read countless numbers of books and tapes and I'm going to give you a piece of advice I wish I had before. Never rely on books or tapes for overcoming AA, I'm not hating on them because they have great advice but you will never learn to get over AA by reading, only by experience. You could ask the best PUA's out there and they all will say they had to go through trial and error just like everyone else to get good at this stuff. The good news is it is worth getting rejected a couple of times because the only way to get over AA is to approach people. Go out and ask 3 people what time it is then walk away. Once your comfortable with that go out and ask people for directions to some random place, then once your comfortable with that go direct or use an opinion opener and start a conversation. That's what I did but bottom line is if you want this bad enough you have to be willing to go out and make the sacrifice, all pua is, is learning to become comfortable talking to people on the street and being able to convey your personality quickly and easily. Hope that helped.
Aren't you the guy who always bitches in one of these threads every so often?

Author:  natedizzle [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:01 pm ]
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Ouch... Yea but it makes me realize what I lack in when I give out advice so it's a good thing. ;)

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