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Author:  Sensis [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 am ]
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Alright, today I went out on campus and started hitting up some Hb's. I pulled out an Hb8.5 (hottest one there) in my lab and started playing some C&F and told her she wanted to be my lab partner, and I scored that. Also gave me some social proof among the other 2 decent ones in the class and got them flirting with me as well. One problem I noticed, though, was that I tended to smile WAY too much. Couldn't help myself. I was having fun and just goofing around and busting their balls and shyte...started wondering if I was getting into clown territory.
Then again tonight I went out and met this other girl and started flirting, and same thing with the smiling.
Anyone have any tips in keeping things light and fun while keeping from having a shit eatin grin on your face.
Author:  BamBam [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:18 am ]
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Smiling is good jeez don't worry about it, as long as you can turn the "clown" off in the important times... I smile too much and i look foolish when i try to be serious lol

just be yourself and have fun, people love being around someone who smiles
Author:  cn_bn [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:40 pm ]
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I have trouble forcing a smile. I tried but i can barley get a forced grin. I think i will look like an idiot :P Any tips on how to overcome that? How noticeable should the smile be?
Author:  Droether [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:04 am ]
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I have trouble forcing a smile. I tried but i can barley get a forced grin. I think i will look like an idiot :P Any tips on how to overcome that? How noticeable should the smile be?
It is incredibly hard to pull of a realistic 'fake smile' due to the movement of the eyes when you genuinly smile.

And smiles should be noticeable! It conveys that you are normal and fun-loving!
Author:  cn_bn [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:37 pm ]
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Well, yesterday i went clubbing, and i tried to smile and use positive body language. Think some girls did notice me more, or if they didnt i at least felt more confident i was even able to try wing for my mate, something i never could do before.
Author:  daggaz [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:22 pm ]
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I've never been told I smile too much. Thats just a nonexistant put-down in my world, and if a girl ever did tell me such a thing, I would probably be so shocked by her negative frame that I wouldn't even think of wanting to game her. Seriously, What a Bitch!

I often hear things like this instead: "You have such a great smile!" "I love your smile" "Its so cute your eyes wrinkle when you smile" "Oh my god you have such crazy good energy, are you always like this?" etc etc etc..

If you smile a lot, it will actually make you happier, and make it easier to smile. If you are trying to force a smile, you should instead try to just keep a small smile on for the majority of the day. Think of things that are amusing or that make you happy, it will help. Then when you are in front of the girl, that energy will be real and if you take in her sexy energy as well, you are going to have no problem smiling at her.
Author:  cn_bn [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:56 pm ]
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I've never been told I smile too much. Thats just a nonexistant put-down in my world, and if a girl ever did tell me such a thing, I would probably be so shocked by her negative frame that I wouldn't even think of wanting to game her. Seriously, What a Bitch!

I often hear things like this instead: "You have such a great smile!" "I love your smile" "Its so cute your eyes wrinkle when you smile" "Oh my god you have such crazy good energy, are you always like this?" etc etc etc..

If you smile a lot, it will actually make you happier, and make it easier to smile. If you are trying to force a smile, you should instead try to just keep a small smile on for the majority of the day. Think of things that are amusing or that make you happy, it will help. Then when you are in front of the girl, that energy will be real and if you take in her sexy energy as well, you are going to have no problem smiling at her.
Yeah i do that, i dont go around grinnig i just try to have a small smile and it works i think. Ive noticed different reactions from other people, though ive only started with this yesterday.
Author:  kbell [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:27 pm ]
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Sometimes after smiling and talking for awhile, my cheeks are really sore. Than I don't want to smile, but do anyway. I thought this was a problem, but perhaps its a good thing?
Author:  Royale389 [ Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:08 pm ]
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say you're on the bus and you're just scanning around the room. Would it be appropriate to smile to a female you find attractive while briefly glimpsing at her? I find it that if i was just smiling out of nowhere ppl think i'm some freak or he's some creepy dude smiling out of nowhere. and what about smiling at a chick whos sitting next to her bf? should u smile at her? or no
Author:  Johnny Chase [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:24 am ]
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I would definitly say don't smile all the time. But look like you have a good, positive outlook on life. Don't force things, or try to hold a smile to long. Try to think about something or get excited to help you smile naturally.

In regards to smiling at random girls, that goes into a bit of direct game. I would make eye contact first, and based on her eye contact levels and body language try to get a read, and then flash a smile if it seems like a good idea.

In regards to the girl with her boyfriend, unless she's eye fucking you or smiling at you first, the most i would do is make eye contact. Unless you have a very innocent, friendly smile, your approaching direct game, and on a girl that hasn't given you any IOI's who happens to be with her boyfriend, you're dippping your toes in a possible fight.

Hope that helps
Author:  Patience [ Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:24 pm ]
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Smiling makes you come across as more attractive. Utilize it. Also, in order to get past a "fake smile," crinkle your eyes a little. A genuine smile emits crows feet wrinkles in the corner of the eyes. Practice this in the mirror. Also, if you are not sure whether or not to use a smile, just give a little half smile. This is a closed mouth smile where one side of the lip and cheek raise a little. Kind of like a smirk. It is not threatening at all and can also help in those awkward passes down hallways and staircases and what not.

-Patience
Author:  Flashpoint24 [ Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:56 pm ]
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After practicing in the mirror I found the most natural looking "forced" smile is when I laugh to myself....because I get amused pretty easily it's easy to find something to giggle to myself about. So smile as if you're remembering something funny...

Also....from a book I've been reading.....

"Technique: The Flooding Smile

Don't flash an immediate smile when you greet someone, as though anyone who walked into your line of sight would be the beneficiary. Instead, look at the other person's face for a second. Pause. Soak in their persona. Then let a big, warm, responsive smile flood over your face and overflow into your eyes. It will engulf the recipient like a warm wave. The split-second delay convinces people your flooding smile is genuine and only for them. "

So there you have it...a way to force a more natural smile...and a way to control you "over-smilers" out there who come off as "fake" to people.
Author:  seansmc [ Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:42 pm ]
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did you ever hear of the saying "Smile with your eyes?"

links below may be of help:

http://www.wikihow.com/Smile-With-the-Eyes
Author:  jkenpo [ Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:45 am ]
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I've noticed a lot of guys walk around with pretty stern looks on there face. I have been guilty of it fairly often. For example walking down the street in a neutral mood nothing wrong, and I had people say they thought I was upset because of the look on my face. I was sending the wrong message and not realizing it. I realized that even if your not smiling it is worth checking to make sure that you aren't sending a negative message.
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