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Author:  Shadowboxer [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:28 pm ]
Post subject:  I have creepy written all over me.
Not sure why, but I just walk in school and girls don't give me positive responses.

I'm white, got green eyes, not that tall, and can't really compete with other guys when it comes to appearance. and not just looks but non-verbal shit.

How can I turn this around?

There are guys in my classroom who girls just look at them and say "He is FUCKING HOT"

And I am pretty charming and funny but I still can't get them. I don't get what I'm doing wrong.
Author:  puaninja [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:17 pm ]
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There's super hot guys and super hot girls. Members of the opposite sex will always be attracted to them based solely on appearance. They have to do nothing at all other than exist, and either you are one of these good looking people or you aren't. But don't get all down about it. It's like focusing on how easy rich people have it. It's pointless.

You may not ever be able to land HB10s, but if you clean yourself up and learn some game, you might be able to land 8s and 9s from time to time. That's better than what most guys get and I'm sure you'd be happy with that. But you've got to work at it. You've got to analyze how you look and how you interact with women, then make the appropriate changes.

Learn the in's and out's of pick up. Find a system that suits you and some routines that you can get comfortable using in the field. Eliminate things that DLV you. Increase things that DHV you. Don't worry about people and things you have no control over. Focus on only the things you can make improvements on, then do so. I guarantee your life will change once you start doing this, and for the better.
Author:  Shadowboxer [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:47 pm ]
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and what kind of high value things can you do?
Author:  puaninja [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:01 pm ]
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Demonstrate excellence. Show that you are smarter, stronger, faster, or more skilled than others. Show off musical ablities, artistic talents, and physical attributes. Embellish those things that will give you DHV. Downplay things that DLV you.

If you have $110 to your name. Take a hundred dollar bill and wrap it around 10 ones. Now it looks like you are walking around with a millionaires bankroll. Don't be afraid to let the ladies catch a glimpse of your money clip. In fact, make sure they do.

Beyond the physical/tangible things, use your words to build yourself up. Become an interesting person to talk to. Be funny, exciting, and entertaining. Tell stories that people want to listen to.
Author:  Shadowboxer [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:28 pm ]
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Alright so I gotta stop being so lazy and goofy. This power game is some really tricky stuff I'm not gonna lie.

How should a good conversation flow besides humor and small talk?
Author:  poeticlyskuac [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:39 pm ]
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Smile more (most important), non threatening body language is key, if you'd like to work on your body language you can check out my alpha series. There are a few things I'd improve on the video but it should give you a good idea of what to do. Or here is an article: http://scienceofnaturalgame.com/2012/03 ... tive-male/ Honestly I put these together to help guys out, so I hope you enjoy.

I also did a video where I talk about creepy as well here q-ampa-confidence-avoiding-the-creepy-s ... 47147.html

It was a Q&A here is what he asked:

"I've got a problem with girls. Not only can I not talk to them, but most of the time I can't even LOOK in their direction. Whenever I make eye contact with them, it always seems hostile. I never smile because I think I'll come off as creepy, so do you have any advice on how to change this mindset, or how to smile, in a non creepy way?"

Note: Remember when I talk about confidence I'm referring to self-confidence.

If you are worried about being creepy you are being creepy, if you are just having fun people will have fun too.

You should begin to focus on creating a connection with girls rather than a first response and working on your self-confidence. The self-confidence especially if you have a decent style (don't be bland) will make you more attractive, I remember in the past you've talked about martial arts(I think it was you) you are probably in good shape. Health is an attractive feature.

People tend to give you what you give them, if you are coming in to school and not getting positive responses don't expect them. You need to be the cheery happy guy and give them a positive response and they'll return one, otherwise she'll reflect your opinion of yourself.

Overall you need to gain attractive habits, correcting your body language has to become conscious habit. Your current body language is years of habits, any time you want to change a habit you need to work on consciously changing it. This means every couple of minutes you make sure to straighten it up.

Peace and Love,

Vic
Author:  officialpoypoy [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I have creepy written all over me.
turn that creepy and make it to crazy and fun and interesting.

2 days ago I told a random girl i liked her and the only way i could express to her my love is to put ketchup all over my hair. Which i did. I got some stares and smiles which got me laughing.

your not ganna get any girls by putting ketchup in your hair but trust me its good to be crazy and fun and interesting becuz your making events and strong memories and its fun and wild.

i mostly did it to make other ppls day interesting.

but yea make your life interesting fun and crazy and wild doing fun stuff and you will have a strong inner game which will make your outer game alot easier.

plenty of girls say hi to me when i walk by now at school. :P
Author:  Ninja1992 [ Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I have creepy written all over me.
Haha ketchup in the hair, ballsy move :lol: mind you, at school age you don't want to make a fool of yourself; that persona would become your stereotype or 'norm' within the school, something quite hard to break out of.
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How should a good conversation flow besides humor and small talk?
Imagine a conersation with your closest friends. It's not question/statement 'hairdresser conversation.
It's quite casual, barely any thought goes into it, and it's generally statements back and forth.
I've gotten good enough at it to the point that the flow of conversation isn't an issue. When opening someone new you can't really avoid asking questions, but make sure you express what you want to say with statements.
Most important thing - DO NOT THINK. Just act - you don't want to be caught like a deer in the headlights trying to think up a witty comeback.
The best closes/pulls I've done (not many pulls, but still) is when you don't give a crap about what you do and just act naturally.
Author:  Shadowboxer [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I have creepy written all over me.
I'm starting to think my mind is holding me back when it comes to sarging. I guess I gotta stop thinking and that's all there is to it. Do you guys know how to pattern interrupt?
Author:  Ninja1992 [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I have creepy written all over me.
You shouldn't be thinking on your feet all the time whilst sarging! If you're with you're friends you would just speak naturally and not think about it; the fact that you're doing it whilst sarging gives value towards the girl - you're putting all this effort in and she turns up her nose, right?

Have you ever found that when you're instate and happy, social interactions are always, always free flowing and natural? If you can be instate, you can achieve that my friend :D Let your positive feelings and the natural flow of the interaction guide you.
Author:  mattyicesototesgrand [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:47 am ]
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Demonstrate excellence. Show that you are smarter, stronger, faster, or more skilled than others. Show off musical ablities, artistic talents, and physical attributes. Embellish those things that will give you DHV. Downplay things that DLV you.

If you have $110 to your name. Take a hundred dollar bill and wrap it around 10 ones. Now it looks like you are walking around with a millionaires bankroll. Don't be afraid to let the ladies catch a glimpse of your money clip. In fact, make sure they do.

Beyond the physical/tangible things, use your words to build yourself up. Become an interesting person to talk to. Be funny, exciting, and entertaining. Tell stories that people want to listen to.

I agree. However, you don't want to "show off" you want to passively demonstrate excellence. Confident people don't go around bragging about their success, they are content with themselves. Get a wing, have him tell whoever you're trying to game about some of your talents. Fake it 'til you make it. Also, saying you have "creepy all over" you definitely isn't attractive. Do some inner game work and realize that you're a smart, funny, kid. Study the kids who are considered "hot" then do what they do better than them.
Author:  Bruce-Wayne [ Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I have creepy written all over me.
You definitely need to work on your inner game first and foremost. Everything else will just fall into place afterwards.
Author:  mephislee [ Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I have creepy written all over me.
"Creepy" is in the eye of the beholder. Like dropoutbillionaire said, you need to fix your self confidence first or none of the pickup systems in the world will help you.

Also, what one girl might find "creepy" is completely different from what another girl defines as "creepy". I read this somewhere-don't remember where but its goes: "Give yourself permission to be creepy."
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