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Author:  kidkurious [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Do I dress too gay or something?

I have a muscular body thanks to weight training, so to bring out these features, I often wear tight-fitting sweaters, t-shirts, and jeans. I've received a lot of compliments from girls.

There's this one girl I've been gaming (she has a bf, but wtv), but every time she compliments me on my nice clothes, she always says she wants to get something like that for her BF.
Like yesterday, I wore a nice polo, and she was like "that's a really nice polo... I should take it from you and give it to my bf".

Then... later on, she's like "you're my best friend".
She gives me a hug... so I playfully pushed her a way and said "go away".

Do my clothes make me seem gay? I mean I do my routines on this girl, and she gives me the "friend" thing.

Author:  DjSkye [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:29 pm ]
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Sounds like she's NEGing you ;)

Truthfully, I would call this an IOI of a sort, mixed with a dominance test, if you interpret it right... If she wants to buy one for her boyfriend, she obviously doesn't think it looks gay.

She is basically using the boyfriend thing to test your confidence. See this as an opportunity, as she's welcoming you to establish alpha-male status over her current boyfriend without him even being there!

My suggestion is to not let this strip you of your game at all. Either ignore the reference to her boyfriend or respond with a playful counter-challenge. "Yeah! You should bring him along sometime; I'd love to teach him how to have some style."

Remember, you're not seeking her approval at all. If you know you look good, then what does it matter what she thinks?

Cheers and best of luck to you.

-Skye

Author:  96Firebird [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:16 pm ]
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I'd also say this is a shit test. With saying she wants to get something like that for her boyfriend, counter with, "Don't bother, he can't pull it off like I can."

Author:  kidkurious [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:46 pm ]
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I'd also say this is a shit test. With saying she wants to get something like that for her boyfriend, counter with, "Don't bother, he can't pull it off like I can."
If I say that, won't she defend him, and thus make her like him more, and like me less?

I was thinking of saying something like "you keep wanting to make your bf dress up like me... is there something you're trying to say?"... implying that she wants me... subtlely

Author:  Mr. Prez [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:18 pm ]
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I'd also say this is a shit test. With saying she wants to get something like that for her boyfriend, counter with, "Don't bother, he can't pull it off like I can."
If I say that, won't she defend him, and thus make her like him more, and like me less?

I was thinking of saying something like "you keep wanting to make your bf dress up like me... is there something you're trying to say?"... implying that she wants me... subtlely
I'd drop the "is there something you're trying to say?" bit, instead go for "send him my way and some style might rub off"

can't say I've been in this situation before

Author:  Rye Lee [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:04 pm ]
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Yeah, you don't want to hint, or be overt about her being attracted to you, because it blows the whole thing. You want to just let it grow until she can't contain it.

I would slightly vary the initial response so that it sounded more like, "This shirt? You want us to look like twins? How about getting him a nice powder blue to go with his eyes?" If she says his eyes aren't blue, then you ask what colour and pick something more fitting, or if they're grey you can tell her close enough and blow it off (neg). If she doesn't know what colour they are, then you neg her for not even knowing what colour her bfs eyes are, then you make heavy eye contact and draw her in, then tell her to notice what a nice shade of [insert colour here] your eyes are, then keep holding for a couple seconds in silence for effect. Now you've anchored her. You could even do this if she does know his eye colour, by saying how well your shirt matches your stunning eyes and then do the EC as mentioned above.

Author:  The Doctor [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Do I dress too gay or something?

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I have a muscular body thanks to weight training, so to bring out these features, I often wear tight-fitting sweaters, t-shirts, and jeans. I've received a lot of compliments from girls.

There's this one girl I've been gaming (she has a bf, but wtv), but every time she compliments me on my nice clothes, she always says she wants to get something like that for her BF.
Like yesterday, I wore a nice polo, and she was like "that's a really nice polo... I should take it from you and give it to my bf".

Then... later on, she's like "you're my best friend".
She gives me a hug... so I playfully pushed her a way and said "go away".

Do my clothes make me seem gay? I mean I do my routines on this girl, and she gives me the "friend" thing.
Sounds to me like you went into WAY to much comfort and not enough attraction, and kino ESCELATION and landed square in the LJBF zone.

Author:  Rye Lee [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:28 am ]
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Oh, I forgot so say that I don't know why you think she's thinking you're gay, you just didn't know how to reply to her IOIs and so you've fallen into LJBF.

Author:  kidkurious [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:02 pm ]
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damn
so i guess i have no chance now...?

Author:  Gun [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:24 pm ]
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this is the magic word: KINO :wink:

Author:  kidkurious [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:13 pm ]
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so... if she did put me in LJBF, more kino will fix things?

Author:  Rye Lee [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:15 pm ]
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so... if she did put me in LJBF, more kino will fix things?
Its possible to recover from LJBF. Its much much much much much harder than going out and sarging another 10 girls successfully though. Sure, if you get good game, it might be as easy as successfully sarging 8 girls, but its just so much harder, it better be worth it and that's WITH game. You sound like you doubt your game, so I'm gonna suggest you're not gonna pull it off successfully and it could crush your ego trying. Either take it as practice and just neg and DHV and be alpha, drop the kino for now (kino is a reward, we don't reward girls that don't do what we want and that's what LJBF is). If you kino her, you're gonna cement her in the LJBF zone. By not kinoing her, you punish her and you stay a bit aloof, keep your body language SLIGHTLY distance by never being fully squared to her and focussing on her completely. This will make her feel like she's doing something wrong and will try to correct it. How? well, she'll try to make you more attracted to her, that's just what people do.

Again, take it as practice and don't be invested in it because it will probably end up hurting you more than it will help you, or drop it all together and move on.

Author:  xxIcexx [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:52 pm ]
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haha well at least gay guys havent hit on you yet, i hope

its awkward but fucking hilarious because it happened to me once at work when some dude called me sweetie, i turned around walked away and laughed so hard i got in trouble with my manager

other two times i was at school and it happened right outside of my classroom and one of my buddies saw it, made for interesting conversation with an hb8 that sits next to me

Author:  kidkurious [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:06 pm ]
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what if I ignored her for a while and talk to the other girls in the room?
I already have social proof because a lot of the girls in the room already talk to me often.

Author:  Gun [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:10 pm ]
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I don't think that kino in this case can be considered as reward :roll:. Usually when you get stuck in the LJBF zone its because there was no kino escalation. In my opinion if you run game from the start (A2) and use proper kino escalation you will get past the LJBF zone. But this is a bit difficult as Rye Lee said u must have good game.Good luck :D

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