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Author:  fangorn forest [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:00 pm ]
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I want to go out alone because I don't always have friends that are up for coming out and I really want to go out and game women.


Do you guys have any tips for going out alone I need some motivation.
Author:  Forrest123 [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:32 pm ]
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Same thing here... I always feel stuped if I were to go alone in a club/bar, so I never did that.
Author:  t_ASH [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:44 am ]
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I have yet to do it myself. I have sarged while i was somewhere on my own waiting for my friends to arrive but never dedicated a night to it. My cousin on the other hand likes to go out alone, usually to quieter places where you can carry a good conversation. Im in a new city and dont really know anyone so i should be giving it a try in the upcoming weeks
Author:  Pierce 007 [ Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:12 pm ]
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i personally find going out alone to a bar puts you in the wrong frame of mind but i also found that looking for ioi's first instead of plowing in saves alot of failure but then im pretty new at this :-)
Author:  Keksman [ Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:55 am ]
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I've done this quite a bit in different cities recently. Honestly, the better your city, the more likely solo sarging is to be more fun/successful than sarging with wings (admittedly, none of my current wings are PUAs). To go out by yourself, you absolutely must be in a mood to meet people and make new friends - not just close HBs. Last week I was out in a different city on a weeknight, and although I didn't see any targets, I got most of my drinks for free and got good tips on making the rest of my stay more fun. Use all the same inner game stuff you do before regular sarging, it all works the same.

Here are few other pointers. Be confident being out by yourself. You must look as comfortable hanging by yourself as you look while talking to people. That said, don't spend a lot of time by yourself. Definitely don't do laps checking out the crowd. Chat up the bartender, others at the bar, basically use every chance to strike up a conversation. Keep doing that until you find a set you want to open, and just do the same to her/them. Slight variations for clubs, conquer the dance floor immediately. You can't dance by yourself for very long, or it may look odd.

In my experience, once you start doing it, everything flows naturally pretty quickly. And because I had no wings to escape to or hide behind, solo sarging actually improved my game much quicker.

At gameon, I disagree. Going to bars alone may worsen the wrong frame of mind if you are already in the wrong one. Or if you lack confidence, you may lose your frame. Since I'm not only opening targets when I'm out solo, I also don't scan for IOIs. You actually draw a lot of IOIs by just being alpha and extremely sociable. Best case, HBs will actually open you.
Author:  Spanish-guy [ Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:49 pm ]
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I want to go out alone because I don't always have friends that are up for coming out and I really want to go out and game women.


Do you guys have any tips for going out alone I need some motivation.
I usually go out alone to practise day game, but not in the night..
Author:  raff5184 [ Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:30 pm ]
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even though I am new at this world, I prefer going out alone for more than one reason:

1. if things go wrong I won't feel embarrassed with my friends
2. your friends could discourage you from gaming (she's too hot for you, you're not so good at it..., let's go and have a beer instead, by the way I NEVER drink when I want to practice, especially in clubs or bars!)
3. It helps your confidence because you know you're alone and you don't need other people that boost you!
4. Also in the night you can go alone, it's only you that knows the truth, that u 're alone. If girls ask you? Are you alone? You can say: No my friends are somewhere
Author:  K9P [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:47 am ]
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I agree. Going out with a wing or friends puts you in your comfort zone. You may lose some social proof, but in my little experience, I find that I am more confident running solo. Plus, if things don't go well, you don't have an audience to bear witness :roll: One routine i wanted to try if i'm solo was if the girls asks if you're alone: "All my friends are lame, they don't wanna cum out! Thas why i wanted to meet new and interesting people" But, i suppose that elevates them, giving them higher value. While being honest at the same time, but losing social proof on the other. But the key i suppose, is in how you deliver. If you come in confident, she will respond. This guy is too cool for his friends. How you deliver, will determine her interpretation.
Author:  Keksman [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:12 pm ]
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if the girls asks if you're alone: "All my friends are lame, they don't wanna cum out! Thas why i wanted to meet new and interesting people"
Query: why do you have (only) lame friends? DLV! Just say they might come out, weren't feeling it, you were tired of herding cats... I don't like the "I'm out to meet new people" bit. True, delivery is important, but the line still stinks. Instead, use C&F to turn it around on her: "Do you always need backup to leave the house?" or something to that effect.
Author:  lachose1 [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:35 pm ]
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Going out with a wing shouldn't be done before you get used to gaming solo. Else, you'll end up doing nothing.
Author:  K9P [ Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:03 am ]
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I suppose that is running through her head 80% of the time. And the whole night, you'd probably have to qualify yourself as she would think this guy has lame friends, he is coming out alone....he is hitting on me! He wants only one thing.....That whole bit. With the whole "backup" routine, I can understand she will respond to unpredictability as it is more attractive. "Here to meet new people", she has probably heard that a million times. Was just thinking of movies...and everybody hates a movie that ends with an all too familiar ending...or u can just guess the next sequence of events. But I dunno, lately, ive been having the urge to move away from routines, and improvise. Be honest and direct, and try to create a good energy with confidence. Let me know what u think. Thanks man.
Author:  camus154 [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:15 pm ]
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I've done this many times when I first moved to my current city and before I'd met a good group of friends, and I still do it when no one can come out.

Like others have said, I think the #1 trick is making sure you don't look like that sad/creepy/alcoholic dude at the end of the bar staring at a TV screen or, worse, everyone else around you who's having a good time. I smoke, so stepping outside with the other smokers is an instant "in". It's a rare evening when I've been solo that I haven't wound up at least chatting with strangers all night.
Author:  Keksman [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:21 am ]
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K9P, despite all the conventional wisdom, her knowing what you're after isn't necessarily a bad thing as long as you don't come off sleazy. I mean, if you want to lay her, you eventually have to make that clear to her anyway... That's why I like silly but sexual openers. You get a laugh, credit for having balls, take away any tension or discomfort, and you plant a seed.
Author:  Pierce 007 [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:24 am ]
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I deliberately go out alone and do the newby 'hi' mission in the same manner during evening as I do during day and go to all the bars in town and talk to new people and girls. This prevents you from standing at the bar and feeling nervous and creates more opportunities and is more fur. Common sence really for a newish guy.
Author:  Nayail [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:59 am ]
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I almost always go out alone to the bars, I usually go early in the evening, right after work still in my business attire, most of the others there are alone too, so no big deal. I go to two or three different ones a week, chat up the bartenders, the regular patrons, until I become a semi regular. I always order the same drink and make sure the bartender remembers, I always come in a little later than the rest, everyone says hey name and the bartender either has my drink ready or will say Miller Lite?. Then I go back on the weekends, early, some of the regs will be there and have brought others. I also make it a point to ALWAYS chat up the married couples, most married women have a friend she is just dying to introduce to someone...and that someone could be you! Usually some of the regs are going to a late night club and will insist you come along.
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