PUA Forum :: Getting a bit frustrated.

You just rationalized your way out of everything you could do to build social proof. Why can't you join a club now? You're a sophomore; that means you're only half way done. Do you really want to continue on the same way? And lunchroom sarging is fucking fun as hell. Don't make excuses for yourself. You're not committed if you're saying shit like, "well I'd just rather go home."

I'm in high school too and you know what I did the other day. I was sitting with my buddies and I say "Hey watch this I'm gonna go make an ass out of myself." I then proceeded to walk up to a table of girls I didn't know and said "Hey you know those guys that sleep around all the time and are complete assholes? Well now you know one more, Sobriquet, nice to meet you." And I got blown the fuck out. But it was funny as hell. My friends and I had a good laugh about it, and now those girls fucking stare at me all the time.

So, moral of the story is: don't just say you can't do something. Hell join the fucking science club. Make yourself known. There's still time for you.

I still think this kid should study more and fantasize less. He shouldn't be plucking ideas from the sky - he should be plucking them from his school books! Reading and thinking about PUA just increases his horny kid urgency which distracts his mind from studying.

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I am sharing my prospective with you from a 'parenthood' and 'guardianship' point of you. In principle, I agree with you. A high school kid has a whole life ahead of him and academic curiosity/success stands to only expand his future, not limit it. Growing up. my best friend's mom would drive us around and when ever she saw some bum or low level worker, point the guy out and tell us, "See boys? How much do you want to bet that he was a F student?"

However, there's this thing . . . 'hormones'. Telling a 16 year old kid to fantasize less about chicks, their tits, vagina, and fucking is like telling a kangaroo to stop jumping. It's going to happen one way or another. You can continue to tell him to stop but. . . it's not really a choice is it? This is like a stream that is flooding your garden. Sure, you could try to push the water back the water but that won't ever work. Why not just go with it, let the stream flow, but divert it the flow to a path that will be least harmful and might do some good?

Goal setting, planning, strategizing, and executing tasks are not easy things to follow. And without a compelling goal, I doubt the average 16 year old will ever try this out. Achieving success reduces useless fantasies. You don't sit there thinking up 1,000's of different fantasies because you know exactly what to do, what to expect, with quantifiable progress. People fantasize because their real life cannot provide the answers. Lots of guys begin their journals with a "PU perspective" but as they get going, almost always tend to expand their plans to encompass other aspects of their lives, including their academic lives.

Take a look at this journal: a-learning-journal-vt92897-180.html
If you don't want to read the whole thing, read the first few pages and the last few. The progress. . . it's amazing. . .

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Any advice?

One of my friends is Islamic and from the middle east. He gave himself an American last name and nick name. People can be "racist" and even "prejudice" since your name is Muhammad and well, the media embeds a lot of bullshit in people's minds. Watch Russel Peter's red, white, and brown comedy. It depicts stereotyping.

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Author:	lidsfitteds [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:51 pm ]
Post subject:	Getting a bit frustrated.
So let me just give you a bit of background on why I'm getting frustrated. I'm a highschool sophomore, I'm okay looking average build (a little on the short side though.) I've been learning loads of pua techniques and stuff, and I'm understanding a bunch of it. I should be doing good right? But I'm not, why? I have little to no social proof. People either dont know me, or probably think I'm a decent guy (with some exceptions: such as some people might think I'm pretty cool, some might think I'm totally lame.) I have a lot except for social proof. But here's another dilemma: I can't build much social proof because I'm a sophomore (If I had started the beginning of freshman year I'd be doing fine I think.) Also, I have like almost no places to sarge around school (excluding bus stops/ train stops.) I can't sarge in class (personally there's not many girls I'd want to get with in the classes I'm in this year, and that's the truth, excluding gym and the problem with gym is I can't peacock because of the gym uniform so I have like no confidence without my normal clothes.) I can't even go to parties and sarge because honestly I barely get invited (here and there I might but it's rare that I would get invited.) Last year I was doing so much better (a bunch of girl were sending me IOIs) than this year but I had oneitis (with this girl who was sending me loads of IOIs but I was just didn't have the guts to do anything about it then and she lost interest.) By now the girls who were sending me IOIs last year have pretty much all lost interest. Highschool is all about social proof, and without it I'm struggling. Any advice?

Author:	lidsfitteds [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:09 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Getting a bit frustrated.
P.S: I'd do lunch sarging since the lunch room is just a big room filled with hot girls but I have lunch the last period of the day and I'd rather not go so late in the day (the lunch room is always dirty by then and I'd rather go home) Also, I think it's to late to join a club in school (like theatre or something)

Author:	Sobriquet [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:31 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Getting a bit frustrated.
You just rationalized your way out of everything you could do to build social proof. Why can't you join a club now? You're a sophomore; that means you're only half way done. Do you really want to continue on the same way? And lunchroom sarging is fucking fun as hell. Don't make excuses for yourself. You're not committed if you're saying shit like, "well I'd just rather go home." I'm in high school too and you know what I did the other day. I was sitting with my buddies and I say "Hey watch this I'm gonna go make an ass out of myself." I then proceeded to walk up to a table of girls I didn't know and said "Hey you know those guys that sleep around all the time and are complete assholes? Well now you know one more, Sobriquet, nice to meet you." And I got blown the fuck out. But it was funny as hell. My friends and I had a good laugh about it, and now those girls fucking stare at me all the time. So, moral of the story is: don't just say you can't do something. Hell join the fucking science club. Make yourself known. There's still time for you.

Author:	lidsfitteds [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:16 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Getting a bit frustrated.
Quote: You just rationalized your way out of everything you could do to build social proof. Why can't you join a club now? You're a sophomore; that means you're only half way done. Do you really want to continue on the same way? And lunchroom sarging is fucking fun as hell. Don't make excuses for yourself. You're not committed if you're saying shit like, "well I'd just rather go home." I'm in high school too and you know what I did the other day. I was sitting with my buddies and I say "Hey watch this I'm gonna go make an ass out of myself." I then proceeded to walk up to a table of girls I didn't know and said "Hey you know those guys that sleep around all the time and are complete assholes? Well now you know one more, Sobriquet, nice to meet you." And I got blown the fuck out. But it was funny as hell. My friends and I had a good laugh about it, and now those girls fucking stare at me all the time. So, moral of the story is: don't just say you can't do something. Hell join the fucking science club. Make yourself known. There's still time for you. I meant it's late in the school year to sign up for clubs, I could join next year though. I figure I can give the lunchroom sarging a try though, thanks man.

Author:	lidsfitteds [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:58 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Getting a bit frustrated.
Quote: You just rationalized your way out of everything you could do to build social proof. Why can't you join a club now? You're a sophomore; that means you're only half way done. Do you really want to continue on the same way? And lunchroom sarging is fucking fun as hell. Don't make excuses for yourself. You're not committed if you're saying shit like, "well I'd just rather go home." I'm in high school too and you know what I did the other day. I was sitting with my buddies and I say "Hey watch this I'm gonna go make an ass out of myself." I then proceeded to walk up to a table of girls I didn't know and said "Hey you know those guys that sleep around all the time and are complete assholes? Well now you know one more, Sobriquet, nice to meet you." And I got blown the fuck out. But it was funny as hell. My friends and I had a good laugh about it, and now those girls fucking stare at me all the time. So, moral of the story is: don't just say you can't do something. Hell join the fucking science club. Make yourself known. There's still time for you. You know you're right! I just need to suck it up and keeping sarging where ever. I guess I was just getting frustrated, now I'm in a good mind set, and I'm just going to start out by trying cold approaching atleast one girl a day.

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Author:	Mr. Marville [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:26 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Getting a bit frustrated.
who the fuck cares anyway what happens in high school. Just focus on your grades kid. Try to learn some stuff. Gain knowledge. Knowledge is Power. Power allows you to skip all the crap and go straight for the pussy. Unless you are Strauss Kahn.

Author:	Sobriquet [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:30 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Getting a bit frustrated.
I mean I agree that to learn is the goal of high school, but it's not like anyone while they were in high school was like, "well fuck this, I guess I'll just wait it out. Who cares what happens for the next 4 years." I mean maybe some people do, but that's pathetic. Pretty much the opposite of everything this is about. And good for you Mohammad_C97, it's one step at a time.

Author:	kasabi [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:00 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Getting a bit frustrated.
This is a good age to learn goal setting, planning, and strategy. Currently, your thoughts are all over the place. You have no tangible goals. Your picking ideas out of the sky with no reason. You don't know what you did yesterday, you don't know what to do today, and you have no idea what will happen tomorrow. This mess in your head forces you to be concerned with everything. You are in high school. You have many, many years to figure this out and you will have many opportunities to meet 100's of gorgeous women. *"Meeting" women, in PU terms (to me any ways) means having sex with them. You are behaving as if you are 'late to the race' and this horny kid urgency will get in the way of a solid plan. The reality is that you are ahead of the race. It seems that you think you are missing out on fun. Look. . . other than a handful of kids who were introduced to sex way to early, often times under less than ideal/legal conditions, everybody in your school is in your position. So relax. Read some of the journals in the "field reports" section of this forum. You will see many people who achieved a lot of progress. If you want to succeed, create a journal. I can tell you a whole bunch of things that you're doing wrong and suggest a whole bunch of things to try but without a journal, all these things will remain as "ideas". You'll want to turn ideas and thoughts into executable tasks.

Author:	Mr. Marville [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:46 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Getting a bit frustrated.
I still think this kid should study more and fantasize less. He shouldn't be plucking ideas from the sky - he should be plucking them from his school books! Reading and thinking about PUA just increases his horny kid urgency which distracts his mind from studying.

Author:	kasabi [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:23 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Getting a bit frustrated.
Quote: I still think this kid should study more and fantasize less. He shouldn't be plucking ideas from the sky - he should be plucking them from his school books! Reading and thinking about PUA just increases his horny kid urgency which distracts his mind from studying. I am sharing my prospective with you from a 'parenthood' and 'guardianship' point of you. In principle, I agree with you. A high school kid has a whole life ahead of him and academic curiosity/success stands to only expand his future, not limit it. Growing up. my best friend's mom would drive us around and when ever she saw some bum or low level worker, point the guy out and tell us, "See boys? How much do you want to bet that he was a F student?" However, there's this thing . . . 'hormones'. Telling a 16 year old kid to fantasize less about chicks, their tits, vagina, and fucking is like telling a kangaroo to stop jumping. It's going to happen one way or another. You can continue to tell him to stop but. . . it's not really a choice is it? This is like a stream that is flooding your garden. Sure, you could try to push the water back the water but that won't ever work. Why not just go with it, let the stream flow, but divert it the flow to a path that will be least harmful and might do some good? Goal setting, planning, strategizing, and executing tasks are not easy things to follow. And without a compelling goal, I doubt the average 16 year old will ever try this out. Achieving success reduces useless fantasies. You don't sit there thinking up 1,000's of different fantasies because you know exactly what to do, what to expect, with quantifiable progress. People fantasize because their real life cannot provide the answers. Lots of guys begin their journals with a "PU perspective" but as they get going, almost always tend to expand their plans to encompass other aspects of their lives, including their academic lives. Take a look at this journal: a-learning-journal-vt92897-180.html If you don't want to read the whole thing, read the first few pages and the last few. The progress. . . it's amazing. . .

Author:	lidsfitteds [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:05 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Getting a bit frustrated.
I mean it's not like the only thing I do is pick up or read about pick up. I've gotten the whole: 'focus on your grades right now' so many times before. But you know what? I figure it's going to be like that my whole life, whether or not I'm in highschool or college or working there's always going to be something that I'll be focusing on so might as well learn pu before I'm a lonely 40 year old virgin. Also, I'm learning a skill (pick up) in my free time (seems a whole lot better than spending my free time scrolling through facebook or watching porn like some people.)

Author:	lidsfitteds [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:16 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Getting a bit frustrated.
Quote: Quote: I still think this kid should study more and fantasize less. He shouldn't be plucking ideas from the sky - he should be plucking them from his school books! Reading and thinking about PUA just increases his horny kid urgency which distracts his mind from studying. I am sharing my prospective with you from a 'parenthood' and 'guardianship' point of you. In principle, I agree with you. A high school kid has a whole life ahead of him and academic curiosity/success stands to only expand his future, not limit it. Growing up. my best friend's mom would drive us around and when ever she saw some bum or low level worker, point the guy out and tell us, "See boys? How much do you want to bet that he was a F student?" However, there's this thing . . . 'hormones'. Telling a 16 year old kid to fantasize less about chicks, their tits, vagina, and fucking is like telling a kangaroo to stop jumping. It's going to happen one way or another. You can continue to tell him to stop but. . . it's not really a choice is it? This is like a stream that is flooding your garden. Sure, you could try to push the water back the water but that won't ever work. Why not just go with it, let the stream flow, but divert it the flow to a path that will be least harmful and might do some good? Goal setting, planning, strategizing, and executing tasks are not easy things to follow. And without a compelling goal, I doubt the average 16 year old will ever try this out. Achieving success reduces useless fantasies. You don't sit there thinking up 1,000's of different fantasies because you know exactly what to do, what to expect, with quantifiable progress. People fantasize because their real life cannot provide the answers. Lots of guys begin their journals with a "PU perspective" but as they get going, almost always tend to expand their plans to encompass other aspects of their lives, including their academic lives. Take a look at this journal: a-learning-journal-vt92897-180.html If you don't want to read the whole thing, read the first few pages and the last few. The progress. . . it's amazing. . . Yeah I think I'm going to try the whole field journal thing soon. Thanks for posting the link too, I subscribed and bookmarked that topic.

Author:	meetjoeblack [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:44 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Getting a bit frustrated.
Quote: Any advice? One of my friends is Islamic and from the middle east. He gave himself an American last name and nick name. People can be "racist" and even "prejudice" since your name is Muhammad and well, the media embeds a lot of bullshit in people's minds. Watch Russel Peter's red, white, and brown comedy. It depicts stereotyping. Create a new image, try a 30day challenge, and checkout rsdfreetour.com

Author:	lidsfitteds [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Getting a bit frustrated.
Quote: Quote: Any advice? One of my friends is Islamic and from the middle east. He gave himself an American last name and nick name. People can be "racist" and even "prejudice" since your name is Muhammad and well, the media embeds a lot of bullshit in people's minds. Watch Russel Peter's red, white, and brown comedy. It depicts stereotyping. Create a new image, try a 30day challenge, and checkout rsdfreetour.com I mean I didn't mention Islam once yet in this post (I am muslim) but I don't think that affects my game really (excluding religious things like no-sex before marriage) but that doesn't have to do with my game right now. And yeah I've watched some of Russel Peters stand up on youtube, he's a funny guy. But there area where I live isn't a racist area ( theres plenty of diversity around my city: latinos, whites, blacks, arabs, indians, you name it.) Plus I'm not one of those guys who like has a mustache and beard and baggy clothing I'm a pretty normal guy I'd say ( shaven, short hair, normal clothing: straight fit/ skinnyish jeans or chinos/ cardigans/ fitted shirts/ snapbacks) Just having a little bit of a social circle problem.

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Author:	lidsfitteds [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:54 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Getting a bit frustrated.
Quote: You just rationalized your way out of everything you could do to build social proof. Why can't you join a club now? You're a sophomore; that means you're only half way done. Do you really want to continue on the same way? And lunchroom sarging is fucking fun as hell. Don't make excuses for yourself. You're not committed if you're saying shit like, "well I'd just rather go home." I'm in high school too and you know what I did the other day. I was sitting with my buddies and I say "Hey watch this I'm gonna go make an ass out of myself." I then proceeded to walk up to a table of girls I didn't know and said "Hey you know those guys that sleep around all the time and are complete assholes? Well now you know one more, Sobriquet, nice to meet you." And I got blown the fuck out. But it was funny as hell. My friends and I had a good laugh about it, and now those girls fucking stare at me all the time. So, moral of the story is: don't just say you can't do something. Hell join the fucking science club. Make yourself known. There's still time for you. Yeah I went to the lunchroom to sarge today and opened this 2 set (one of the girls I allready knew so I wouldn't exactly call it a cold approach.) But it was fun. Later I didn't say hi to a cute girl on the bus, so I'm still dealing with AA but atleast I got an approach in today.