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Author:  The Asian Don [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Clubbing for the first time...NEED ADVICE

I'm starting my 2nd year of university, last year wasn't that great.

Okay so it's not really my first time. I went with my SPAM to the University student union(the only club in the town) on my first day. It was my first ever time clubbing and my confidence was quite low anyways. One of my SPAM was such an ASSHOLE. He was also physically really big and intimidating which didn't help me. He kept on trying to manipulate me into doing what ever he wanted and tried to destroy my confidence when I didn't. I had 1 drink but didn't want to drink anymore. No matter how many times I said no he wouldn't shut up and kept on trying to make me drink more even though I told him it's because of my religious beliefs. I didn't give in to the fucker which is great, but he made the whole night awkward and destroyed my confidence which affected all my interactions that night and ruined my relationship with my SPAM.

That's the only time I've ever been to a club and HATED it. This year however I'm determined to be more social and I need to go to the Student Union to socialise more.

How should I behave when in a club? What kind of stuff should I talk about in clubs? I hear that people don't really wanna talk about serious stuff like education and work at clubs; so what am I suppose to talk about? Should I just go and get a little bit drunk to get rid of some nerves? The one thing I'm MOST nervous about is DANCING! I have no idea how to dance and I feel self conscious and stupid when doing it.....

I go back to university in two weeks so any advice is greatly appreciated, thankyou!

Author:  MrMatt [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:44 pm ]
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Didn't even read the post yet.

Though, I feel like I can give you the best advice there is:

Have fun.



You're welcome.

Author:  7000 [ Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:44 am ]
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So you've been to a club and hated it, you seem to have disliked a certain type of person that you get at a club (and let me tell you that there are always going to be idiots at clubs, especially once fueled by alcohol), you don't seem to be the sort of person who wants to go out and get smashed and crazy drunk, and the topics of conversation you would seem to be comfortable discussing aren't things that you think you can discuss in a club.

So why are you going? Being social doesn't mean you have to go to a particular place. Join a sports club, or a society or just find some new friends from your course or whatever. Clubs aren't really a great place to "be more social", as you don't talk and make friendships.

Don't get me wrong - I love clubbing, so I'm not trying to tell you not to go. But you just don't sound like you really want to. And if you don't want to, then there are plenty of other (and far better) ways to be more social.

However, if you do want to go, then Mr.Matt's advice is about right to be honest - just enjoy yourself. Don't dance goofy, but if you're dancing with a group of people, then just loosen up a bit, and go with it. Smile, laugh. Have fun. Don't fret how bad you're dancing is - most people in clubs can't dance!

Author:  The Asian Don [ Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:31 pm ]
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The thing with my university is that it's in a very small rural town and the university is also very small. There's probably around 2000 students at the Uni. In terms of societys things really aren't great. The only sports societys are Rugby and Football(soccer), I'm embarassingly bad at both, I'm not a sports person. There was a film society but it wasn't great for meeting people(you go, watch a film, leave) and it quickly died off and got canceled. I am a member of the christian union but I wanna meet more people than that(yeah christian and pick up...strange mix). There's literally like 5 members. I will join the local Gym this year but that's not great for meeting people either.

I told myself last year I don't enjoy clubbing so I'm not gonna bother going. I regret this as I didn't make as many friends as I would have liked and had a lot of boring nights. I'm not exagerrating when I say there is NOTHING to do in this town apart from going to the Student Union, a Pub or a house party. I have a problem with clubbing as I have very little experience and feel nervous. You definitely have to go along to the student union every now and then if you wanna get to know a lot more people.

I'm determined to step out of my comfort zone and make a real effort this year. I'm a lot more open to drinking this time, I don't mind getting a bit drunk to have fun, I just don't wanna be getting wasted. I'm not planning to go clubbing on a regular basis, just once or twice during freshers week and ocassionally throughout the year to go hangout with people. If someone asks me to hangout, 70% chance it's gonna be at the Student Union.

I just need advice on how to behave when in a club. What type of things are you suppose to tlak about if the stuff I mentioned is too serious for a club environment?

Author:  zebraG [ Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:13 pm ]
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3 things

Learn to dance:
some-dancing-basics-groove-vt126351.html
Watch these moves, then do them in front of a mirror. You'll feel stupid at first, but no one can see you; it's fine!

Have fun. If the dance floor is empty-ish, close your eyes and pretend like you're the only one there. I've done this before and found myself opening my eyes to find 3-all girl sets having formed up around me!

Find the smokers area and go and chat to them. Guys, girls, whoever really. Smokers tend to be more willing to talk to strangers. It's also generally quiet here so you can actually talk.

Author:  RitualSlave [ Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:19 pm ]
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zebraG!

So true! Happens all the time! I actually learned it from Gambler's videos off this site -- was amazing! I've done it about a dozen times...and it's worked every time!

The best material thing you have at your disposal is the dance floor. It's so HQ or "DHV" if you will.

~ Surrep

Author:  Reality Show [ Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:22 am ]
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I personally hate clubbing as well. Never worked for me.

I would recommend taking dance classes.

Author:  RitualSlave [ Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:55 pm ]
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@Reality Show:

I'm a GOOD PUA (as not the best), and I certainly mess up in a lot in my approach (i.e. not enough comfort, not enough attraction building, not running enough patterns, etc.)

But there is one thing I know for certain that anyone can good at -- and that I AM good at, and that is dancing.

Dancing (showed to me via the video by Gambler that's available through this website) is THE most excellent way to build your value in a club! Because it shows you're fun, non-needy, cool...pretty much awesome in every way!

The only way you can top this is to have girls GRINDING on YOU while you do this (which has happened to those of us who choose to do this -- not to brag, but this includes me)

When you dance like a rockstar for a couple minutes, you have free access essentially to dry hump the hottest women in the club (not a good idea for the long run, but that option's there).

So, Reality Show, the reason you're not getting results on the dance floor is NOT because you're "rhythmically, athletically and musically challenged." The only reason that can possibly be conceived in PUAville for no success with dancing is:

Inner Game That Hasn't Been Developed Enough Yet (i.e. You're obviously going out to get girls vs. Having fun and drawing people to your vibe)

Dancing is THE best way with any club!

The fact that you're posting on this forum tells me you're a cool guy in the making, Reality Show. At the moment, now, I'd be willing to wager that you don't have the belief system(yet) that says the following:

"I and what I'm doing are the best things going on."

"I am indifferent to the opinions of others."

"I'm fucking awesome."

"I like having fun. Being social is an awesome excuse to have fun."

"I am the best because I give more to other people by giving them the fun and validation they want -- when they earn it from me."

Etc. Etc.

When you DO develop that belief system (same goes for anyone else), I'd bet BIG money that your results would change BIG TIME!

Let me know if this helps, guys!



Talk soon,

~ Surrep

Author:  skills360 [ Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Clubbing for the first time...NEED ADVICE

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I'm starting my 2nd year of university, last year wasn't that great.

Okay so it's not really my first time. I went with my SPAM to the University student union(the only club in the town) on my first day. It was my first ever time clubbing and my confidence was quite low anyways. One of my SPAM was such an ASSHOLE. He was also physically really big and intimidating which didn't help me. He kept on trying to manipulate me into doing what ever he wanted and tried to destroy my confidence when I didn't. I had 1 drink but didn't want to drink anymore. No matter how many times I said no he wouldn't shut up and kept on trying to make me drink more even though I told him it's because of my religious beliefs. I didn't give in to the fucker which is great, but he made the whole night awkward and destroyed my confidence which affected all my interactions that night and ruined my relationship with my SPAM.

That's the only time I've ever been to a club and HATED it. This year however I'm determined to be more social and I need to go to the Student Union to socialise more.

How should I behave when in a club? What kind of stuff should I talk about in clubs? I hear that people don't really wanna talk about serious stuff like education and work at clubs; so what am I suppose to talk about? Should I just go and get a little bit drunk to get rid of some nerves? The one thing I'm MOST nervous about is DANCING! I have no idea how to dance and I feel self conscious and stupid when doing it.....

I go back to university in two weeks so any advice is greatly appreciated, thankyou!

Follow my stuff and my post, everything you need to know is in there:

the-skills-method-to-club-game-dance-fl ... highlight=

Author:  skills360 [ Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:54 am ]
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@ 700
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So you've been to a club and hated it, you seem to have disliked a certain type of person that you get at a club (and let me tell you that there are always going to be idiots at clubs, especially once fueled by alcohol), you don't seem to be the sort of person who wants to go out and get smashed and crazy drunk, and the topics of conversation you would seem to be comfortable discussing aren't things that you think you can discuss in a club.
you go to a club to dance, have a good time, and pick up, not to have elaborate convos.

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So why are you going? Being social doesn't mean you have to go to a particular place. Join a sports club, or a society or just find some new friends from your course or whatever. Clubs aren't really a great place to "be more social", as you don't talk and make friendships.

Don't get me wrong - I love clubbing, so I'm not trying to tell you not to go. But you just don't sound like you really want to. And if you don't want to, then there are plenty of other (and far better) ways to be more social.
That is not true the reason he does not like the clubs cause is out of his comfort zone, he does not know what he is doing and he does not know how to dance... To tell somebody to give up on something he has not tried or uncomfortable with, is not good advise.
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However, if you do want to go, then Mr.Matt's advice is about right to be honest - just enjoy yourself. Don't dance goofy, but if you're dancing with a group of people, then just loosen up a bit, and go with it. Smile, laugh. Have fun. Don't fret how bad you're dancing is - most people in clubs can't dance!

^ go out and have fun advise = you want to learn pick up go out and talk to girls, silly advise...But wait, i want you to go out every weekend for a month just have fun even when you do not feel like having fun=let me know how many girls you laid by "just having fun", o wait, i will save you the effort probably none..

Author:  skills360 [ Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:02 am ]
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@ Reality show:

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I personally hate clubbing as well. Never worked for me.
I am sure that if it worked you would be hooked since is the fastest most physical game there is, what else is faster??
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I've been dancing for 3 years now though, but I still don't feel comfortable dancing at a regular nightclub freestyle. For those of us who are rhythmically, athletically and musically challenged (I am all three), that can be a big goal to tackle. For me still too big of a challenge.
^ is all in the hips, you do not need much dancing, take a zumba class, i will post video tutorials on all types of dances...No the crap on the internet, dance moves that will get women turn on..
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Plus, think about this. Even if you were kinda good, how many girls can you realistically dance with or get to know in a loud, dark nightclub? Not many in my opinion.
I average minimum 3 women a weekend(i go out only friday and saturdays) and i have a gf, it is the fastest, easiest game there is...
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My recommendation? Don't dance on the dance floor. Just take dance classes. Find the Salsa classes. You'll dance with 30 different girls in one night sometimes. It's not too loud, you don't have to go to the music, the girls are just as new as you are. It's the best way to go.
Salsa, is not a good idea too much courtship, if you want to get laid forget salsa(i am salsa dancer)... best pop 40, hip hop and r&b cause sexually charge and allow escalation...
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Also, that flat mate who is bigger than you who is ordering you around and 'disrespecting' you so much. That is something I would deal with pronto. He obviously caused you a lot of psychological damage. You have to learn how to stick up for yourself.
Do not hang out with that guy or talk to him, cut the friendship, he is toxic...
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He's probably just doing all that to get a rise out of you. No one trusts the quiet guy who keeps taking it, goes along with everything and quietly gets angry. Just do to him, what he does to you and you will gain his respect. He might physically hurt you, but he would be a coward if he did so to a smaller / developing guy. But give it a shot. Talk shit to the shit talker. Try to learn from him. Maybe he is actually helping you learn and is just testing you.
Cut the friendship or have a talk, if he keeps disrespecting, just cut the friendship as simple as that, you need people in your life that lift you up, not to bring you down..

Author:  Reality Show [ Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:49 am ]
Post subject:  Mind blowing

Skills, I was skeptical. But I looked at your videos and I was shocked. Amazing stuff man. I can see the potential of what you know. I had never once in my life seen that sort of thing in person.

I can see myself experimenting with that. A+

Author:  skills360 [ Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mind blowing

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Skills, I was skeptical. But I looked at your videos and I was shocked. Amazing stuff man. I can see the potential of what you know. I had never once in my life seen that sort of thing in person.

I can see myself experimenting with that. A+

Listen dude, if you do exactly what is say, there is no way it could not work, just give it time, get familiar with the clubs, bar and lounges you go...Learn how to dance to turn women on, none of the other shit matters... Dance for fun to peacock, but the goal is to dance close get compliance and escalate, AND DO NOT WASTE TIME IN NO RECEPTIVE GIRL, NO NEED FOR LINES, NO NEED FOR GAME, IS EASY SHIT!

Author:  The Asian Don [ Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:25 am ]
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Thanks for all the advice guys.

I won't really have to deal with that asshole SPAM anymore. I've moved into a different flat with a friend so I'll probably only see him around Uni and the gym every now and then. 100% I will bump into him at the club(he goes like 3 times a week) but whatever, he's jut a "Hi, Bye" guy to me now, probably just a bit of polite conversation if I have to speak to him. He's actually a pickup artist and a pretty good one at that; sure he gets some girls but most guys don't like him as hes always acting like an asshole. Not a nice person to be around. It even says on his facebook "Dickhead and proud" so him being an asshole is obviously part of his "routine". After that night I pretty much cut him off and made hardly any effort to speak to him. It was super awkward living in the house with him, but whatever.

My aspiration in pickup isn't to f-close loads of girls, I just wanna become a more confident, social person that knows how to flirt with the ladies. I'm more interested in attaining relationships than f-closes. I'm like Sweater in Neill Strauss' The Game.

I just wanna be able to have fun and enjoy myself in a club and get chatting to some girls and stuff. I'm out of my comfort zone in clubs so I need to desensitize myselft to them and learn how to "behave." I will read that link you posted earlier skills

Author:  skills360 [ Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:02 am ]
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Thanks for all the advice guys.

I won't really have to deal with that asshole SPAM anymore. I've moved into a different flat with a friend so I'll probably only see him around Uni and the gym every now and then. 100% I will bump into him at the club(he goes like 3 times a week) but whatever, he's jut a "Hi, Bye" guy to me now, probably just a bit of polite conversation if I have to speak to him. He's actually a pickup artist and a pretty good one at that; sure he gets some girls but most guys don't like him as hes always acting like an asshole. Not a nice person to be around. It even says on his facebook "Dickhead and proud" so him being an asshole is obviously part of his "routine". After that night I pretty much cut him off and made hardly any effort to speak to him. It was super awkward living in the house with him, but whatever.

My aspiration in pickup isn't to f-close loads of girls, I just wanna become a more confident, social person that knows how to flirt with the ladies. I'm more interested in attaining relationships than f-closes. I'm like Sweater in Neill Strauss' The Game.

I just wanna be able to have fun and enjoy myself in a club and get chatting to some girls and stuff. I'm out of my comfort zone in clubs so I need to desensitize myselft to them and learn how to "behave." I will read that link you posted earlier skills
If you want relationships the last person you want to model is "mystery" or "Neil Strauss" , to get a relationship, a quality one you probably need to fuck a lot of girls to cherry pick the best, for now do not even worry about relationships...you wanting a relationship is the fastest way, no to get a relationship, i know it makes no sense, but being outcome dependent in the wanting a relationship will fuck everything up..

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