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Author:  sushiman12345 [ Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Natural at picking up, but issues after that

I dont have many problems with picking up girls, but my areas of weaknesses after this are keeping them around and possibly wanting more from them down the road. Most girls I pick up stick around for 2 weeks, then disappear and we just say "Hi" when we are out and about. Does this happen to most PUA's? The last few really sexy HB 7s-9s I have picked up I been trying to become serious with, but how can you do this if you don't want to look needy? I do the whole call them once every 4-5 days, they know that other girls are after me, but it seems like that doesn't phase the jealousy side of these women. Would like some advice. I get the, " I don't want a boyfriend thing." I feel like women just view me as a fun dude to have sex with but to never become serious with. Maybe I'm missing something in my natural game that I need to work on.

Author:  skills360 [ Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:35 pm ]
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that is the problem you have, " i am trying to get serious with" is creating the opposite effect...do this and thank me later, keep doing what you are doing and is working, now eliminate trying to get serious with any girl, because you will give oneitis vibes, that will push them away, remember cat string theory, one the girls knows that you ae attracted and you want them, that will turn them off and push them away.. Use this routine, TRUST ME DO THIS: " right now i am just dating, i do not like to settle, most people settle and overlook flaws, and stay with somebody even if is not what they really want, what i do is i have my goals i know exactly what type of girl i want, but you never know anybody till you are with them 6 months to a year, and then the real person comes out. For that reason i date multiple girls, and if then one of them become my girlfriend i am exclusive" use your own words or whatever but you get the idea...

Author:  sushiman12345 [ Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:20 am ]
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That's very true, and I completely understand. I used to have a rotation of 5 girls, but they kind of disbursed because I didn't want to date them whatsoever. Now that I gradually moved on to the big and better things with hotter women, and I got to know them quite a bit over an extended period of time such as 3-4 months, I really don't know how to push it in to anything that could be serious. Normally the ones that aren't that solid hit me up a lot, but the ones that I find completely sexually attractive and I hook up with I normally have to hit them up to chill and what not. I do the whole hit them up every other week thing in hoping that they will realize that I probably have a lot on my plate and seeing other women. I hope that it will trigger their urge to hit me up which doesnt happen cause I feel that they are playing the same game as me. It's just hard to let the hot ones go and to completely ignore them, but idk how to trigger their urge to come hit me up and beg for me to chill with them. I try the whole game but sometimes it just seems to fail lol. Thanks for the advice tho.

Also is that method you told me is that what you say to them? or how does it completely work?

Author:  skills360 [ Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:38 am ]
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Sushiman, the problem is that even though you are doing that the hot ones are catching you in your bluff they are getting the oneitis vibes just like i said, you are focusing too much on their LOOKS! big mistake, i recommend you get the ebook "double your dating" by david d, it will help you a lot, you are making some mistakes... you need to improve your game, the hotter they are the more challenge they want, if not they get bored, your just like every other guy to them..

Author:  Visor92 [ Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:03 am ]
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I have this exact same problem bro. It gets kinda depressing eventually. I took a hb9's virginity 2 days ago, text her yesterday, she replied once then stopped replying. There I was thinking she'd want me to contact her, as I've read on this very forum that women get clingy/ sensitive after losing their virginity. Clearly not o_0
Im happy I can attract girls but I'd love to be able to keep them around.

Author:  skills360 [ Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:19 pm ]
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and that is the problem with structure game!!!! Keeping a girl around and being in a relationship is a totally different game all together...

Author:  skills360 [ Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:21 pm ]
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visor 92 she may have buyers remorse, but you broke one of the pua rules sleeping with a virgin... lol! never heard that one before a virgin with buyers remorse, did you do her good...the first time is painful and horrible for most virgins...

Author:  Visor92 [ Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:16 am ]
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Man I don't give a shit about having sex with a virgin, I wouldn't be able to stop my self, you should see the girl ;) And I don't think she was finding it horrible cos when her parents called her to come home (whilst we were having the sex) she kept postponing coming home. Her parents are strict, she has a cerfew, even tho she's 18/19. Eventually her parents just told her to come home after we were banging for like 40 mins (she obv. didn't tell them we were having sex lol). Anyway as we were getting dressed, I said "I'll finish you off next time", to which she replied " we'll see " with a cheaky grin on her face. I thought she liked me a lot. However, she does have some other romantic interest, with which she looks really cute with apparently. I dunno, I got with her 3 days ago and banged her 2 days ago, so I don't know anything about this other lad. Maybe I'm just a piece of man meat ;)?

Author:  sushiman12345 [ Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:40 pm ]
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True, I understand that I might have oneitis, but while I am talking to her I am hitting on other girls and banging other girls. I don't get how that can come off as oneitis? So how are you supposed to get that girl to think you're not needy and that you want to get her to be less flaky/ have her hit you up on the reg? It's like the one you want doesn't want you, but the ones that are definitely dateable but have wierd qwerks are not. it's not like I'm completely focused on her. I have read Double your Dating like 5 times, but it doesn't really explain this stage when you're passed the taking the girl on a tea date cause we have been hanging out for almost 3 months now. I feel like she is still wanting her ex who took her virginity supposidely, and is keeping me on the side until she gets to college at my school.

Also she wants to meet up, but something always comes up with her until she finally shows up cause she knows that its been awhile and then we hook up, but not to the point of sex. I think this girl is a straight up player and is doing the same stuff that I do to her, but she is doing it more discretely. I don't really know what else I can do than act myself and hit her up once every 3-5 days until I can crack the seal on this girl. Thanks for the advice tho

Author:  skills360 [ Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:51 pm ]
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READ THE CAPS NEXT TO YOUR SENTENCES:


True, I understand that I might have oneitis, but while I am talking to her I am hitting on other girls and banging other girls. YES BUT THE OTHER GIRLS DO NOT REPRESENT A CHALLENGE LIKE THIS ONE, YOU CAN BANG A BUNCH OF GIRLS AND STILL HAVE ONEITIS, HAPPENED TO ME WITH MY CURRENT GIRLFRIEND LOL...I GUESS LUCKY ME HAPPY ENDING....I don't get how that can come off as oneitis? THE OTHER ONES DO NOT REPRESENT A CHALLENGE TO YOU, YOU HAVE ONEITIS... So how are you supposed to get that girl to think you're not needy and that you want to get her to be less flaky/ have her hit you up on the reg? It's like the one you want doesn't want you, but the ones that are definitely dateable but have wierd qwerks are not. EXACTLY BECAUSE OF THE ONEITIS VIBES YOU ARE SENDING SHE IS CATCHING YOU IN YOUR BLUFF...it's not like I'm completely focused on her. I have read Double your Dating like 5 times, GOOD BOOK GOOD FUNDAMENTALS THAT YOU ARE STILL BREAKING...but it doesn't really explain this stage when you're passed the taking the girl on a tea date cause we have been hanging out for almost 3 months now. I feel like she is still wanting her ex who took her virginity supposidely, and is keeping me on the side until she gets to college at my school. BINGO! MAYBE! THEN YOU GOT A DO THIS STRATEGY IT WORKS FOR ME, DATE OTHER WOMEN, LET HER KNOW, HELP HER GET BACK WITH HER EX, TALK ABOUT GAME ETC... DO NOT BRAG, DO NOT BLUFF, AGAIN HELP HER GET BACK WITH HIM...IN THE PROCESS SHE WILL FALL FOR YOU, RENT THE MOVIE THE UGLY TRUTH...

Also she wants to meet up, but something always comes up with her until she finally shows up cause she knows that its been awhile and then we hook up, but not to the point of sex. I think this girl is a straight up player and is doing the same stuff that I do to her, but she is doing it more discretely. MAYBE!I don't really know what else I can do than act myself and hit her up once every 3-5 days until I can crack the seal on this girl. Thanks for the advice tho! YOU ARE TOO NEEDY TO GET A GIRL YOU MUST BE WILLING TO LOSE A GIRL, IF YOU ARE IN A FORUM ASKING FOR ADVISE ABOUT A GIRL, MEANS YOU HAVE ONEITIS, TRUST ME SHE AIN'T ASKING ADVISE ABOUT YOU...

Author:  sushiman12345 [ Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:04 am ]
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Thanks for the honestly in your post man, I really do appreciate it and it makes a bunch of sense. So how would you start out now? Last time I talked to her was yesterday. I know where to go from there, but how should my next conversation go with her? or what point should I try to get across in order to reverse this shit. Once again thanks a ton bro and you've been a lot of help

Author:  skills360 [ Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:17 pm ]
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sushiman, take a lit of bit of a break, it will kill you and give you anxiety attacks, like an addict, but let her initiate the contact, then start from 0...Your main goal is to kill your oneitis vibes, i want you to say to yourself over and over and over and over again, to GET A GIRL I MUST BE WILLING TO LOSE A GIRL, memorize it put it on your cell phone, say it 100 times...Every time you are about to talk to her call her etc... to get a girl i must be willing to lose a girl..

Author:  Apocalyptica [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:01 am ]
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If you are looking for more, don't fuck them on the first night. Can do wonders..

Author:  Visor92 [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:51 am ]
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If a girl is lying on her back, sexy, naked and willing, I can't not fuck her ;)

Author:  sushiman12345 [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:00 am ]
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That's what I'm kinda used to is the one night fucks, so when I don't pull a girl that first night then I expect that every night that pasts after that I feel like I messed up. I think that somewhere within our interactions I messed up and I try to figure out what happened during that interactions. Cause I know not to show neediness and I thought by contacting 1nce every week or so is pretty non-needy like. Appreciate the extra help though guys!

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