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Author:  ArtistupPick [ Mon May 02, 2011 9:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Women that throw you off your game.

There are a few women (mainly women I've folded on or had some shit come up) that seem to just throw me back in AFC-land as soon as I come in contact with them in some way. Any way to get out of this rut, I'm not necessarily trying to get with them but I don't like them throwing off my game.




(EDIT: This might need to be moved to 'sticking points', I didn't see that. :x )

Author:  kiddgenesis [ Fri May 06, 2011 5:16 am ]
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I'm fairly new to the pickup game myself, but i believe they are called AFOGs Alpha Females of the Group.

If it's one of those things where you open and she goes like
Why ask us?
or
Uh...Why?

Then it's called a bitch shield, i overcame this problem with a video on youtube.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yhNi5OU8FY[/url][/url][/youtube]

Author:  LordCthulu [ Fri May 06, 2011 6:50 am ]
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Nice vid. I knew I wasn't getting to sleep early tonight. /facepalm

Author:  kinorc [ Sun May 08, 2011 3:36 am ]
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They don't throw you into anything. You decide to go back. Don't worry though, you are just running on your previous programming and waiting for the new ones your installing to be one the defaults. Its not a huge deal, just keep evolving and you will less often fall into your old ways, but instead you shall rise to the new self you want to become.

Your main issue is that for some reason, you still give a shit what these girls think. Its not a problem though, you will learn to not give a shit what any of the girls you meet think of you. You will learn to be so confident in yourself that you will know, if a girl isn't into you, its her loss.

Author:  Loupe [ Fri May 13, 2011 4:31 pm ]
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The best way to get over this is just to keep practicing on the girls that TOTALLY throw you off your game, then eventually itl be like yeh OK Im used to this now time to game them.

Stick in you'll get there in time.

Author:  cedius [ Wed May 18, 2011 5:13 am ]
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The best way to get over this is just to keep practicing on the girls that TOTALLY throw you off your game, then eventually itl be like yeh OK Im used to this now time to game them.

Stick in you'll get there in time.
Well said...and totally agree.

Don't worry about girls throwing you off. It's like when you first learned to drive, you didn't get it right off the bat and I won't go into all the different scenarios but I'm sure you get the gist of this...

Keep going at it, get blown out, let them throw you off...it's your failures that will get you results and success...so fail...and fail fast!

You'll be surprised at how many have gotten to where you are at now and just bowed out because...it's too hard! Don't be that person, trust me!

Author:  Blind_Oh!_bed_ience [ Fri May 20, 2011 10:45 am ]
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Hey Artistupick this is a quick analysis

“There are a few women (mainly women I've folded on or had some shit come up” It sounds like you are encountering the same women over and over again.
First impressions can have an impact on subsequent information processing. One theory is that we use stereotypes to deal with people; we will direct our attention to notice the things that mesh with our criteria. If something doesn’t match our criteria- White guy who raps or Asian guy who is bad at maths- we remember this because it is salient, however we will continue to pay more attention to the stereotypical behaviour we expected and say something like “ he the only Asian dude I know whose bad at maths, but still a typical Asian bad driver ”.

Exposer to these types of people (which is most of society) could change their perception by conditioning and reinforcement, but you would have to change the perception of more than 50% of their schema (depending on how strong and accessible their attitudes are towards you or what you actually represent in their eyes).
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The best way to get over this is just to keep practicing on the girls that TOTALLY throw you off your game, then eventually itl be like yeh OK Im used to this now time to game them.

Stick in you'll get there in time.
If these women are the same women you folded on in the past? Conditioning could work maladaptive and reinforce their negative beliefs and attitudes. If you were to try and crack a joke they are more likely to misunderstand and even take offence. The best advice is prevention, but if you have to encounter these people don’t use any language that could be taken as ambiguous and without looking like your hovering try to keep in close proximity (over 200 studies show what we think is unfamiliar is potentially dangerous. If nothing negative happens after repeated exposure, negative emotions decrease, and positive emotions increase). When you read that the situation has returned in your favour proceed with caution.

The difficult part is just like these women have made errors in judging you; you also don’t really know what their criteria vs schema really is.

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