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| Author: | NotAPuA [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Natural Game: The Reality behind the Myth |
Hi, First, I am not a PuA. I have never aspired to be a PuA and I hope to God (Or any extra-terrestrial being for that matter) that I will never sink so low that I will resort to becoming a PuA. This post is not meant to insult, berate or belittle anybody on this forum (though it undoubtedly will) because personally, I need every single one of you: PuA's, AFC's, whatever you want to call yourself, I need you. The reason is simple; without all of you, I would not be able to run my game. I would not be able to go to a bar with a group of friends, and leave the bar with a good looking female on my arm/shoulder/dick/whatever. Most of you are probably sitting behind your computer screen seething and thinking: "What?! That makes no sense!" Well, sorry pal, but this makes perfect sense. The reason that this makes sense is because while all of you are attempting to become the next big thing in the PuA world (you're all doing so great too I bet!), I am benefiting from losers like yourself approaching women. Let me give you an example: Last weekend I was at a relatively packed bar in downtown Toronto with some buddies. I ordered myself a few double vodka waters and looked around to see what sort of females were in the joint. There were a lot of swamp donkies, a fair amount of average looking females, a handful of decent to good looking women, and one perfect 10. This girl was a rocket; perfect tits, perfect ass, perfect legs and hair, everything. I stood at the bar and crushed a few beers and then turned around to make my move. However right when I was about to approach this fine specimen, some tool wearing a cowboy hat, bangles and rings, and a stupid smile on his face approached her and her friends. I watched the scene unravel pretty quickly and since I'm relatively informed about the PuA scene I was able to understand what was happening. This guy stood there, doing his thing for these women (and more specifically the perfect 10) and eventually was able to isolate the target. Now I usually don't try to intentionally bust up another dudes game but in this circumstance, I wanted that girl and I get what I want. So I finished my drink and bee-lined to the area where these two were talking. I stood to the side for a minute and watched as this tool-bag tried to capture his audience with funny jokes, little tricks and a fair amount of contact (you can call it kino, but personally, I stopped using codes for words when I was 11). Eventually I had enough and thrust myself into the scene; it was my time to show this idiot what real game was. Me: Hey champ, I thought the Criss Angel fan club wasn't allowed out past 11:30. Girl: *Laughter* Tool: *Attempt to be clever and witty by insulting me back with almost the same line.* (Clever move!) Now if you have read this far you have probably guess what type of person I am: I am a Natural Alpha Male. I am not a nerd who has studied how to become an alpha male. I am not a random guy who decided enough was enough and attempted to better himself. No. I am the epitome of Alpha Male so when this weird dressed little man tried to insult me, I could not hold myself back. Me (to girl): Listen sweetheart, I don't think you want to be around for this. Girl: *Looks at me with disgust, back to Tool and waits for his reassurance.* Tool (standing with a smug look on his face, looking directly at me): Go to the bar, I'll be there in a sec. Now see what I did here? I called the shots. I made the moves. I made this tool agree with what I was saying while proving to this girl who the real man was. I wasn't running game. I wasn't using "canned lines" or techniques I had read in a book. No. I was being an animalistic, territorial man. This is something that is natural, not learned. Some people have it, most do not. As the girl went to the bar I tore this kid to shreds. Insulting his outfit (to all you peacock theorists out there. You look like a bunch of fuck faces. Thank you for making me look better), insulting his terrible attempt to pick the girl up and even insulting his choice of drink...some sort of gay martini. While I was doing this however I was certain that the 10 was looking or at least glancing in this direction so I made sure to stand taller than this kid, to look more dominant than this kid, and to show to her (and to the rest of the people watching) that natural ability completely kicks the shit out of your trained game. This was personal now for me. After about 5 minutes the kid had enough and tried to slide back to the girl at the bar. While he did this I went and took a piss, bought another double vodka water and then shot the shit with my buddy. While I was talking to my buddy, who do you think walks up to me and taps me on the shoulder? The tool? No. It was the 10. The rest of the story is simple; I acted like myself to the broad, I was cocky, I was confident, I was assertive and outgoing and I ended up taking her home and fucking the daylight out of her. Then I woke up, fucked her again and took her digits. So, the moral of the story? Well the moral is this; no matter how good you think you are, no matter how many women you have "sarged" or picked up, no matter what girls you have fucked (models, pornstars, senators, first ladies), someone with Natural Game and natural talent will always win. You think guys like Mystery and Gambler were never outgamed? They were. And it was by guys like me. I win. You lose. Natural Game is more impressive and more successful than your learned game. You can argue me all you like, but eventually, you will all learn. You can better yourself, and I'm proud of you guys for that. You can become the dude you have always wanted to be, but in the real world, the strong survive, the weak get eaten. I hope to see some of you in the near future. Gray |
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| Author: | Fin [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Natural Game: The Reality behind the Myth |
Quote: Hi,
FUCK YOU. How dare you insult pick up you fucking prick, I'd kick your face in if I ever met you, STRONG EAT THE WEAK BITCH. I'm gonna fuck your mother you pri...First, I am not a PuA. I have never aspired to be a PuA and I hope to God (Or any extra-terrestrial being for that matter) that I will never sink so low that I will resort to becoming a PuA. This post is not meant to insult, berate or belittle anybody on this forum (though it undoubtedly will) because personally, I need every single one of you: PuA's, AFC's, whatever you want to call yourself, I need you. The reason is simple; without all of you, I would not be able to run my game. I would not be able to go to a bar with a group of friends, and leave the bar with a good looking female on my arm/shoulder/dick/whatever. Most of you are probably sitting behind your computer screen seething and thinking: "What?! That makes no sense!" Well, sorry pal, but this makes perfect sense. The reason that this makes sense is because while all of you are attempting to become the next big thing in the PuA world (you're all doing so great too I bet!), I am benefiting from losers like yourself approaching women. Let me give you an example: Last weekend I was at a relatively packed bar in downtown Toronto with some buddies. I ordered myself a few double vodka waters and looked around to see what sort of females were in the joint. There were a lot of swamp donkies, a fair amount of average looking females, a handful of decent to good looking women, and one perfect 10. This girl was a rocket; perfect tits, perfect ass, perfect legs and hair, everything. I stood at the bar and crushed a few beers and then turned around to make my move. However right when I was about to approach this fine specimen, some tool wearing a cowboy hat, bangles and rings, and a stupid smile on his face approached her and her friends. I watched the scene unravel pretty quickly and since I'm relatively informed about the PuA scene I was able to understand what was happening. This guy stood there, doing his thing for these women (and more specifically the perfect 10) and eventually was able to isolate the target. Now I usually don't try to intentionally bust up another dudes game but in this circumstance, I wanted that girl and I get what I want. So I finished my drink and bee-lined to the area where these two were talking. I stood to the side for a minute and watched as this tool-bag tried to capture his audience with funny jokes, little tricks and a fair amount of contact (you can call it kino, but personally, I stopped using codes for words when I was 11). Eventually I had enough and thrust myself into the scene; it was my time to show this idiot what real game was. Me: Hey champ, I thought the Criss Angel fan club wasn't allowed out past 11:30. Girl: *Laughter* Tool: *Attempt to be clever and witty by insulting me back with almost the same line.* (Clever move!) Now if you have read this far you have probably guess what type of person I am: I am a Natural Alpha Male. I am not a nerd who has studied how to become an alpha male. I am not a random guy who decided enough was enough and attempted to better himself. No. I am the epitome of Alpha Male so when this weird dressed little man tried to insult me, I could not hold myself back. Me (to girl): Listen sweetheart, I don't think you want to be around for this. Girl: *Looks at me with disgust, back to Tool and waits for his reassurance.* Tool (standing with a smug look on his face, looking directly at me): Go to the bar, I'll be there in a sec. Now see what I did here? I called the shots. I made the moves. I made this tool agree with what I was saying while proving to this girl who the real man was. I wasn't running game. I wasn't using "canned lines" or techniques I had read in a book. No. I was being an animalistic, territorial man. This is something that is natural, not learned. Some people have it, most do not. As the girl went to the bar I tore this kid to shreds. Insulting his outfit (to all you peacock theorists out there. You look like a bunch of fuck faces. Thank you for making me look better), insulting his terrible attempt to pick the girl up and even insulting his choice of drink...some sort of gay martini. While I was doing this however I was certain that the 10 was looking or at least glancing in this direction so I made sure to stand taller than this kid, to look more dominant than this kid, and to show to her (and to the rest of the people watching) that natural ability completely kicks the shit out of your trained game. This was personal now for me. After about 5 minutes the kid had enough and tried to slide back to the girl at the bar. While he did this I went and took a piss, bought another double vodka water and then shot the shit with my buddy. While I was talking to my buddy, who do you think walks up to me and taps me on the shoulder? The tool? No. It was the 10. The rest of the story is simple; I acted like myself to the broad, I was cocky, I was confident, I was assertive and outgoing and I ended up taking her home and fucking the daylight out of her. Then I woke up, fucked her again and took her digits. So, the moral of the story? Well the moral is this; no matter how good you think you are, no matter how many women you have "sarged" or picked up, no matter what girls you have fucked (models, pornstars, senators, first ladies), someone with Natural Game and natural talent will always win. You think guys like Mystery and Gambler were never outgamed? They were. And it was by guys like me. I win. You lose. Natural Game is more impressive and more successful than your learned game. You can argue me all you like, but eventually, you will all learn. You can better yourself, and I'm proud of you guys for that. You can become the dude you have always wanted to be, but in the real world, the strong survive, the weak get eaten. I hope to see some of you in the near future. Gray Hahaha! Had you for a second didn't I? Go on, admitt it! The funny thing is you emulate exactly what alot of PU guys do nowadays, infact you* do it perfectly! *By you here, I mean your fictional self; the one who's not signing on to forums in order to brag. The kind of sauve guy fucking beautiful women by choice is rarely the kind who gets his rocks by making posts like you did. Though I have been wrong before, social science is hardly exact. Though one thing we do have, is a defintion of an alpha male, care to tell us what it is? I've bet a muffin on what your answer will be! Not defending the community... this place IS fucked up, it's just not fucked up in the way you think it is... ..I'd actually prefer it if these guys put on a silly hat and went out, than reading stupid posts like yours. At least then they'd be performing some kind of action, rather than what happens now which is read or write a post exactly like yours then go back to being the fucked up loser that they were in the first place. |
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| Author: | Wal [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:19 pm ] |
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Stellar analysis. I like the detail--calling the shots, insulting someone else, even using the word gay to describe a drink--killer! Also, thanks for pointing out that you have to try to stand dominantly. Most naturals don't have a clue what they do and why it is effective. Keep your head in the game, bud--I'm sure that posture will eventually become natura... oops. Never mind. Enjoy the ego boost that you get from insulting people. |
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| Author: | Fin [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:36 pm ] |
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Quote: Stellar analysis. I like the detail--calling the shots, insulting someone else, even using the word gay to describe a drink--killer! Also, thanks for pointing out that you have to try to stand dominantly. Most naturals don't have a clue what they do and why it is effective. Keep your head in the game, bud--I'm sure that posture will eventually become natura... oops. Never mind.
Haha, my SPAM read your post and just choked on her coffee.Enjoy the ego boost that you get from insulting people. She thanks you! |
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| Author: | Wal [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:50 pm ] |
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Alright, alright, settle down! I don't want this guy insulting my hat just because your roommate liked my joke... I can't bear the pain. |
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| Author: | BrianFL2 [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:15 pm ] |
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its actually a good thread because it identifies this ego trap of identifying with "pua" which is essentially meaningless. There is no such thing as a "pua", even the big "pua gurus" are distancing themselves from it as fast as they can. they need to to change the name of this forum before long, because in a year if you hear "pua" you will hear laughter soon after. you guys are probably too young, but remember Leisure Suit Larry ? Google it if you never heard of it, there was a video game made for it, pretty funny. |
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| Author: | NotAPuA [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:02 am ] |
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Jesus, the amount of insecurity in these responses is exactly why I feel the need to post this -- to demonstrate to you self-deluded cellar dwellers that while you may feel in control in the bar or with females (which I doubt is the case for any of these responders), in real life, in life outside of pick-ups and game, you lose. While I would like to respond to Fin and others personally,I know that my words will fall on deaf (and apparently illiterate (next time proof read your work so I can at least take you seriously)) ears. Keep your chins up boys, perhaps you will one day amount to something other than a facade and a bunch of cheap tricks. Cheers and good luck |
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| Author: | Warped Mindless [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:17 am ] |
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Quote: Jesus, the amount of insecurity in these responses is exactly why I feel the need to post this -- to demonstrate to you self-deluded cellar dwellers that while you may feel in control in the bar or with females (which I doubt is the case for any of these responders), in real life, in life outside of pick-ups and game, you lose. While I would like to respond to Fin and others personally,I know that my words will fall on deaf (and apparently illiterate (next time proof read your work so I can at least take you seriously)) ears.
A insecure guy calling other guys insecure....you sure your not a pua? Keep your chins up boys, perhaps you will one day amount to something other than a facade and a bunch of cheap tricks. Cheers and good luck |
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| Author: | NotAPuA [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:15 am ] |
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Quote: A insecure guy calling other guys insecure....you sure your not a pua?
Poor grammar and spelling...are you sure you should be on the computer this late kid? **edit* Needed to add a smiley face. |
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| Author: | Fin [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:19 am ] |
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Quote: Jesus, the amount of insecurity in these responses is exactly why I feel the need to post this -- to demonstrate to you self-deluded cellar dwellers that while you may feel in control in the bar or with females (which I doubt is the case for any of these responders), in real life, in life outside of pick-ups and game, you lose. While I would like to respond to Fin and others personally,I* know that my words will fall on deaf (and apparently illiterate (next time proof read your work so I can at least take you seriously)) ears.
Come on, is that what you have been broken down into already? Hiding behind grammer? Most of these kids can't argue their way out of a paper bag and they've already demolished you to cheap tricks and a facade of superiority?... I know, I couldn't resist the irony. Keep your chins up boys, perhaps you will one day amount to something other than a facade and a bunch of cheap tricks. Cheers and good luck Please respond, I'd love to hear how you are different from PUA*'s and I really want to know what your definition of alpha male is, as I said I have muffin riding on what your answer will be... *You're not, you emulate perfectly what modern PU is all about, again we're using the adjusted version of "you". Insecurity checklist. Needless ad hominem- Approval seeking behaviour- Refusal to engage in free debate- Need to feel dominant over others- Condescending tone to be-little others- Takes pleasure in causing others stress- ---------------------------- I'm curious, maybe I am not following you, but where exactly do you not fall into all of the above categories? |
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| Author: | Wal [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:11 pm ] |
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More insults. Here is the deal: we all know you're a troll, and we're having a bit of a laugh at your expense. But that doesn't mean we can't be cordial with each other. In the spirit of cordiality, let me respond to your post in a more direct way: You insult other people because you desperately want to be superior, and you aren't really sure that you are. You derive your sense of self-worth from the fact that you did not have to learn how to talk to women, though, so insulting those who have to learn this skill makes you feel superior. Anyway, I am happy that this comes naturally for you; I'm sure you get enough sex. But that doesn't mean that you're better than anyone else, and, in fact, your pride is your downfall. You see nothing wrong with the way you live your life, so you do little of consequence to improve yourself (like, say, learning that there is more to life than comparing yourself to others). You are living inside your own head, waging war on your insecurities by thumping your chest, and you are so obsessed with demonstrating your superiority that you actually feel the need to insult other people. You see, I don't really care what your opinion is of me--I don't need to compare myself to anyone. I simply live here and enjoy it, and I derive my sense of self-worth from being myself. If we met in real life I am sure you would like me, and you wouldn't believe that I am a "self-deluded cellar dweller," but that is besides the point. The thing is, you're just too damn insecure and childish to be my pal and hang with my friends, because we'd ditch you as soon as you started going at it. There is simply no need for that kind of behavior. It is a little embarassing. Anyway... if you want to see what I am talking about, stick around. Yes, there are a lot of people posting on these forums that don't have a clue how to communicate (none of whom have responded to this post--these are all users I have come to respect), but at the very least they are taking a proactive step to improve, and these kinds of people can use no-nonsense advice from naturals like yourself. You might learn something, too. You might figure out how to stop living in your own head, how to stop judging your value based on a comparison with others, and maybe even how to totally stop judging. |
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| Author: | Warped Mindless [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:42 pm ] |
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUH3JQjcweM[/youtube] |
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| Author: | IOWA [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:45 pm ] |
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This guy is right. I completely agree with him. I'm one of the few advocates of heavy drinking in this forum and I can see getting shit faced is a key point in his game. Well done. |
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| Author: | NotAPuA [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:46 pm ] |
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Enough with the analysis of my behaviour guys, come on. I'm on here trying to make a point and all you guys are trying to do is play therapist. I don't need, nor do I care about your psychoanalysis of my motives/actions/behaviour/etc etc. What I do need however is for every prospective and current "PuA" to understand that while you may be talented in your own right, Natural Game trumps all. I don't care if you've fucked Carmen Electra doggystyle on a balcony overlooking the Champs-Élysées, I don't care if you've taken my mom out for a nice seafood dinner and never called her again, no matter what, Natural Game trumps all. Now most of you have taken this as insulting/berating/demeaning/etc, but like I said before, this is not meant to do that. This is meant to demonstrate the power that is Natural Game. I'm proud of being who I am, I don't need to hide my insecurities by pumping myself up to be a fucking asshole. I am only here trying to demonstrate that while your material may be the shit, natural game is ten times nastier. Keep on hating if you want, but if you do you're completely missing my point. G |
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| Author: | Wal [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:20 pm ] |
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Quote: Enough with the analysis of my behaviour guys, come on. I'm on here trying to make a point and all you guys are trying to do is play therapist. I don't need, nor do I care about your psychoanalysis of my motives/actions/behaviour/etc etc. What I do need however is for every prospective and current "PuA" to understand that while you may be talented in your own right, Natural Game trumps all. I don't care if you've fucked Carmen Electra doggystyle on a balcony overlooking the Champs-Élysées, I don't care if you've taken my mom out for a nice seafood dinner and never called her again, no matter what, Natural Game trumps all.
This forum exists because some men lack a natural ability to approach women without some form of instruction, but that doesn't mean they cannot endow themselves with that ability through practice. The idea that "Natural Game Trumps All" is a moot point, because we wouldn't be here if that weren't true.Now most of you have taken this as insulting/berating/demeaning/etc, but like I said before, this is not meant to do that. This is meant to demonstrate the power that is Natural Game. I'm proud of being who I am, I don't need to hide my insecurities by pumping myself up to be a fucking asshole. I am only here trying to demonstrate that while your material may be the shit, natural game is ten times nastier. Keep on hating if you want, but if you don you're completely missing my point. G Think of it like playing a sport. Take basketball, for example. Let's say basketball is really, really fun (well, it is)! Everybody wants to play basketball, but not everybody is endowed with natural athleticism in the forms of speed and strength. The unathletic guys get their asses handed to them every time they play. So they get together and analyse what the athletic guys do right, and try to break it down and emulate it. They practice plays, they lift weights, and all of a sudden, some of the unathletic guys are able to get in the game and play pretty well. Is there something wrong with that? Keep that in mind, and then consider what your role is in this "basketball game of life." In such a scenario, you'd be the naturally athletic guy insulting other people in a pick-up game--not out of good-natured ribbing and sportsmanship, but because you genuinely believe that having to have learned basketball is somehow worse than naturally being good at basketball. We did that as kids. Can you imagine being an adult and doing this? Anyway, I've gone off on a tangent. You haven't insulted me, mang--I don't like to use material or canned stuff, either. My game is, probably, almost as spontaneous as yours is; I just had to practice and learn how to not be scared to death when talking to pretty girls. Does that make me a tool? BTW I do love the term swamp donkies. I gotta use that one... |
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