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Author:	Mask21 [ Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:29 am ]
Post subject:	Gaming
Hi guys, I'm still a noob and would just like to know which is better for beginners, direct or indirect game? and for direct game, what do you do after saying you are interested on the girl. can you go say "so how u doing?" or is it more dependent on the situation? comments are appreciated. Just wanted to know which is better to pursue first.

Author:	mobrinks [ Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:46 pm ]
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As a complete beginner, your best bet is completely forgetting about game. That's right. Your focus should be: - Reducing approaching anxiety. - Just TALKING to women, not trying to pick them up. Ask women on the street for the time, make small talk with waitresses, cashiers, etc. Just start TALKING to women. This will give you a HUGE foundation and make it much easier in the future to begin to actually pick them up. Once you are comfortable and proficient at making small talk with women, you can begin looking into how to "game" them.

Author:	Keksman [ Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:51 pm ]
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More generally than what mob says, do things that improve your self-esteem. Work out, pick up a cool hobby or two, go out and make a bunch of new friends, etc. That will strengthen your inner game, which is the foundation for any PUA.

Author:	poeticlyskuac [ Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:34 pm ]
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I agree with both of them. However, I would like to add inner game, self improvement, enlightenment, and body language(sending and receiving). All are very important. Each is a requirement for success with women. Inner game- Without inner game you are doomed. You can do all sorts but if you don't love yourself how can anyone else? Self improvement- This isn't something limited to pick up. This is something that you should always be doing. If you ain't improving you are becoming obsolete. Enlightenment- A lot of people think that their path to happiness leads to success with women. That is so ridiculously wrong. Getting laid hundreds of times is fine, doing it doesn't guarantee happiness. If you ain't happy without sex, you sure as hell won't be happy with it. Sex is merely a fun and amusing satisfaction. Body Language- Well this is pretty simple. If you don't send the right message, you are of value, confident, etc. with your body language you look like everyone else, which means you get what everyone else gets- sometimes you get laid, sometimes you don't. You also need to read and understand body language. You need to be aware of what you are doing, and how it effects them. How you can use this toward your advantage and what would be a disadvantage. Understand the courtship process and what/why it works. Sending, and receiving the correct are very important and you will never be successful with women without understanding them.

Author:	Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:04 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Gaming
Quote: Hi guys, I'm still a noob and would just like to know which is better for beginners, direct or indirect game? and for direct game, what do you do after saying you are interested on the girl. can you go say "so how u doing?" or is it more dependent on the situation? comments are appreciated. Just wanted to know which is better to pursue first. I would have loved to just start with direct when I was a beginner. Saves a lot of time. When you're doing direct, open with a smile, confident body language, a compliment and then introduce yourself. Places to take the conversation: 1. Cold reads (whether correct or incorrect) get information out of her in a fun way, and make her think "why did he think that about me" or "how did he know?" in the process 2. Open ended questions are better than questions that you can answer with one word. So "what's it like moving to a new city?" is a lot better than "are you enjoying being in London?" 3. Tell an interesting / funny story about something that happened to you recently. If she has no follow-up questions for you or a story of her own along similar lines, you can ask "has anything like that happened to you?" or "do you have any friends like that?" or "have you ever felt like that?" or something relevant to your story to get her going. 4. Don't be afraid to cut threads or jump around. Cutting a story half way through to talk about something related is great, because then you generate curiosity in her, and you always have the original thread to go back to if your new thread doesn't go anywhere. 5. You MUST introduce elements of flirting, teasing, sexual innuendo and so on into your conversation. This shows that you are comfortable with yourself, and that you are not a pushover who will just agree with everything she says in order to make her like you. Remember, you've already told her she's hot and you want to get to know her. You're both on the same page - you're hitting on each other and flirting. It's ok. In fact, it's great to acknowledge or play up that she's hitting on YOU, that what she just said has a double meaning, and so on. It keeps the interaction fun, and also keeps SEX on her mind. (Sex with YOU that is! ) As for the teasing, that's important too. You've just gone up to her and said that you're initially attracted to her based on her appearance. Now, you want to find out if her personality is GOOD ENOUGH to bother actually hanging out with her. If you're getting 10-20 numbers a week, you don't want to bother setting up dates with girls who are boring, or stupid, or who don't find your sense of humour funny. There's another girl just around the corner who is just as hot but will find you HILARIOUS, believe me. So, if she starts losing you with a boring story, SAY SO. If she's into something really nerdy like stamp collecting, MAKE FUN OF HER! As long as you're not being a total dick and you do it in a light-hearted, joking way, she'll laugh but actually change the subject or ask about you. In her head she's going "omg I don't want to screw up and say the wrong thing!" This kind of tension is what you want to create in her during that initial approach. You want her to have butterflies in her stomach and be worried to lose YOU. 6. Once you've gotten her laughing and you're having a nice little chat, you want to establish commonalities. Once you find a few, try to use one as the basis for setting up your day 2. She used to hunt? Fucking amazing! There's a carnival in town, take her and challenge her to see who's the best shot at all those games. Lay down the challenge, and then set up the day and time right there. Then exchange contact info. HAVE FUN DON'T BE A PUSSY

Author:	heno 007 [ Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:19 pm ]
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gooooo direct in my opinion. I stress the importance of confidence and saying what you are thinking inside.- i want to fuck you.

Author:	Mask21 [ Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:06 am ]
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thanks guys for the opinion. Yeah, I do wanna go direct. But first I wanna do is what mobrinks, keksman and poet said. I'm just gonna first focus on reducing AA and meeting new people since I just moved in a new country. LOL haha. I figured what's the point of maybe having success with women if you don't really have any pals you can really hang out with right? thanks again guys

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