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Author:  TLRS [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:29 am ]
Post subject:  60 years of Challenge experience - Thoughts, FR
Hope you have the time to give me some feedback.

So I had a 3 year-long relationship, and I've been trying to get back in my "Inner Game" since August, when we broke up.
I was using MM and DeAngelo, and I must say that I felt that something was missing, something that I knew in the past, but couldn't remember anymore.

And then, I realized that I was putting to much pressure on me. In the past I was a successful PUA, and had a reputation of being a player, and having a lot of girls. And now I was too desperate to show the world (or my little town) that I still couldo do it.
Soooo I searched, and read a very good article on Ego by Chief.


It was exactly what i needed to hear and remember. And then I saw his link to 60 Years of Challenge.
I put my hands on the material and started to study it, and was very impressed with the sincere and direct approach he made. And finnaly, came the light. And I felt so stupid (but so relieved)...how could I forget something so basic? (maybe too much MM and related)

- Sexual Tension

I forgot what it was, the importance of it. Was too focused on A C and S phases, the lines, the negs, the Kino, avoiding rejection...
And reading 60YC was really refreshing. Yes, I knew that he was right about the tension, the escalation, and how to just tap into what is already there, the Sexual Tension! (if it isn't, you just didn't waste your time!)

So I want to thank Chief, and 60 years of Challenge for your refreshing and sincere thoughts. I'm now much more confident in my inner game, and things are flowing naturaly once again.

I will publish my FR and sincere experience of what went well and not using 60 years of Challenge method
Author:  TLRS [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:00 am ]
Post subject:  FR
First Field Report

This isn't really a FR, only my first experience using the micro-escalation on a girl I had previously sarged.

So I had this girl, petite, and very inteligent, that I knew already.
Before 60YOC
I used the Cube routine, and the Five question game (won a Shot! ) 8)
Couldn't get almost any Kino running.
Run a lot of qualifying routines, but couldn't see in her the vibe that it was going ON.

So I read some of the 60 Years of Challenge routine
(About escalation, doing less, using the sexual tension in your favour.)

I gave her a call: you owe me a shot, tonight we're going out.
She says yes. And instead of worrying about her interest in me I just reframed to this new method: "she's there, don't need to know anything more than that."
We talked in a bar, in Lisbon, but this time, I didn't make an effort to talk, or too ease the tension with humour, or to put her at ease. I would just be silent, look at her, think of how good would it be to fuck her right here, and you know how it goes.
She starts to get nervous.
She fills the silence with non-sense talk
She looks at me for validation, (Poker Face)
She gets more nervous
I start to try to grab her hand casualy, to get an IOM
No luck, keep getting closer, she is clearly getting nervous
I feel the vibe escalating, and she starts to dance to the music in the bar (trying to deal with the tension?)
I grab her hand, take her to the little dance floor, start to make her spin a little, tease her hands, and then IT'S ON
She starts to kino me like hell while dancing
I get closer, keep looking to her eyes, poker face
Then, we kissed, very naturaly, didn't even notice it happening
We get out of there, and make out near her house, i didn't pressure to fuck, thinking I would certainly have her later (I know, so stupid of me, now I know by 60YoC that I should have tried, so I could know where she would stop, you never know!)

"after issues"
So, today I met her, and she was all "let's just be friends" and stuff...I didn't react to it, it's normal, and just kept looking in her eyes. The tension was building once again, but then again she kept verbaly rejecting me. I managed to keep the tension but she blocked me (although as I said, the sexual tension is there, she wants me.)

So I know there's a world out there for the taking, and I will be doing that too, but I really want to fuck this girl. I think I know how to handle this, but I would like some thoughts from you guys, since I'm only now getting my skills back

60YoC says that we should avoid the "Disco make-out" since it's so what everyone else do. And I'm feeling now exactly what he meant...

Thank you*
Author:  HighTide [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:26 am ]
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where were you able to find his material. I found the micro-escalation one and something else i dont remember the name of but ive never heard of that disco thing.

BTW 60 is a prophet lol. Only 17 and what he says applies to all age groups whereas MM is geared toward older more socially wired women.

Gotta love that sexual tension huh...
Author:  Chief [ Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:26 am ]
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BTW 60 is a prophet lol. Only 17 and what he says applies to all age groups whereas MM is geared toward older more socially wired women.
60 isn't a teenager... I think you're thinking of TVA_Oslo aka BoyToy aka BoyToyPUA, but he's not 17 anymore lol
Author:  Shyler [ Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:44 pm ]
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BTW 60 is a prophet lol. Only 17 and what he says applies to all age groups whereas MM is geared toward older more socially wired women.
60 isn't a teenager... I think you're thinking of TVA_Oslo aka BoyToy aka BoyToyPUA, but he's not 17 anymore lol
I think that High Tide meant that he is 17 and not 60's lol :P. And I agree with that 60's method is appliable for all ages while most others are not.

To the OP, you did great actualy. 60s says that if you make out too much at the bar that it is difficult to take her out there later because by making out you already released all the tension.
But you managed to get out with her and to get near her house and continue there. It is this fase where you should have pushed forward in order to get laid. But it doesn't matter anymore, it's in the past.

I love the sexual tension a lot! It's my addiction. I like the seductive fase you described, very familiar.
Author:  HighTide [ Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:58 pm ]
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my bad i should have cleared that up, but yea im 17 and i started looking into his material after chief posted the anti-manifesto and im already getting more closes in the past 2? months since i read it than i did all sophomore and junior year combined LOL.
Author:  TLRS [ Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:20 pm ]
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To the OP, you did great actualy. 60s says that if you make out too much at the bar that it is difficult to take her out there later because by making out you already released all the tension.
But you managed to get out with her and to get near her house and continue there. It is this fase where you should have pushed forward in order to get laid. But it doesn't matter anymore, it's in the past.
Thank you, I really wanted to clear that out. It will make me more confident in the future. And you're right, it's in the past.


About 60YoC 4 elements: I really think that guys who have already some learning on MM-related tech, but (like me) are held back by approach anxiety or escalating will get the most out of it.
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