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Author:  thevault [ Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:44 pm ]
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Hey sorry for interupting but I noticed you earlier (or) when I was walking past and I wanted to come up and say hello and I'd regret it if I didn't, Hi I'm... (this may seem like weak game but actually its really not at all, this can be used for both night game or day game, but I'd reserve it for going after someone you really like if you have no other way in)

I need to find my friends again but... add in what ever you're doing (here you're letting her know you're not going to be hanging around and that you have a life)

Would it be possible to get your number, I promise only good conversation and if we like each other then maybe we'll do something sometime and if not well then no harm done you can just ignore me :) (some people say order her to give her number to you but personally I want the girl to have the choice that way she invests a little more which possibly increases the chances of her agreeing to meet)

To increase your chances even more this type of game can be very powerful to use after getting good eye contact walking away and then circling back, or just going straight over whatever

Another little trick is instead of just getting the number and leaving (this is for night game only btw) you can say "I need to find my friends but if I see you later I'll come over and talk for a little bit if thats cool" when you reopen 15-20 minutes later things will run a million times smoother because you already have attraction if things went well, you can just have normal conversation and chill out using your natural attraction no2-basics-of-becoming-attractive-vp349 ... ht=#349364 or as I like to call it being normal, friendly and fun

The D2 stuff you'll have to sort out cuz I can't be bothered going into it, but I will say this if you have a very social facebook page, then use the number to get hers add her and then set up a date

Note: you do not have to use my exact words but the basic structure can be the same
Author:  Ciornia [ Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:43 pm ]
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Overall, I think you have some good stuff here, particularly in the first line and in your use of time constraints. But I would adjust a bit of your wording ("sorry for interrupting"; "would it be possible to get your number"; "you can ignore me"; "if that's cool"), which sounds subservient and as if you're asking her permission for a lot of things. Consider tailoring your speech to continue being disarming and subtle but to be more assertive.

Peace,
Ciornia
Author:  thevault [ Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:01 pm ]
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You can if you wish but as long as you don't sound like a pussy going direct like this you'll be ok

The idea is to make it sound sincere, Sinn said in one of his videos the more nervous he was sometimes the better it came off

If you have good body language and you're as steady as a rock in terms of handling tests it really doesn't matter to much how you word things because you'll come over confident and she'll just think you're being a gentleman about it

I got the appology bit from one of Adam Lyons vids but I would do that anyway, he always goes in like that when he interups, which is part of the reason why he put AFC in front of his name

The "would it be possible to get your number" I use for a specific reason, I want her to make a choice, these type of approaches are high on flakes if you don't fallow up correctly so if shes making a commitment to actually give me her number instead of me ordering her then shes invested a little more, the difference being I'm offering her a chance to say the old "I have a boyfriend" if I don't get this then my chances are more solid

This isn't really my style, I have tried it a few times in clubs and to be honest everytime has lead to some sort of relationship, but I went in off eye contact so I kinda knew there was interest from her

But you have some valid points, thou I suggest people go out and try to see what works for them best, remember you have to becareful with this because this creates high amount of attraction straight away and if you come in cocky and loud it most probably will turn her off!
Author:  vizzy [ Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:35 pm ]
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I love direct game.

It's so much easier.

My whole game improved a million percent with direct game. Back with indirect, situation and opinion openers. I would talk myself out of approaching with shit like "hmmm....what opener should I use?" too late she walked away - shes gone.

Direct is so easy now. "hey you are too cute! I really want to talk to you".

"wow you have the cutest smile!"

"hey out of curiosity, do people tell you you're attractive all the time? if I said you're attractive it wouldn't be anything new right? well lets get a coffee and in 10 minutes I will tell you something nice about yourself that nobody else has told you - deal?" (not word for word unfortunately. it sounded alot better when I winged it).

I actually used the one above a bit ago. It wasn't planned or anything. I just went with the flow and it worked out GREAT. It wasn't canned or anything. I had this awesome conversation with her for like an hour. Meeting her again in a few days.
Author:  RamboBlack [ Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:36 pm ]
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I'm totally against direct game I do not think it is intelligent to use and it is not 100% effective.
Author:  AFC Royal [ Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:16 am ]
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This doesn't really sound like direct game to me. Or at least, not how I would normally imagine it.
Author:  thevault [ Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:35 am ]
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DeltaForce if you think that game is 100% effective even at its very best and that you can get any girl you want then you're living in a complete fantasy world dreamed up by so called "gurus" pushing nothing but products, thats gona lead you to be extremely unhappy

As for not intelligent if you have a 30 second all or nothing window of opportunity not intelligent would be to do something else but direct, don't be so dogmatic in thinking there is only one way and it's not like you have to go direct every time, you use what works best for the situation you're in

But maybe direct just doesn't work for you, maybe you haven't been able to pull it off, but that doesn't mean theres a problem with direct game!

Watch this great tutorial from Adam Lyons on direct and then tell me its not effective http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... d=32493504

AFC royal there is different levels of direct, it can range from "hi, you guys look friendly so I decided to come over and say hello" to "sup, wanna fuck?" your idea of direct might be more forward on the sexual side
Author:  Mind Hacker [ Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:10 pm ]
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Guys, I'd like to get your inputs on this:
What's different in direct game from what every other AFC is doing and expecting to get judged by the looks and hopefully get lucky?
Author:  civilian [ Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:05 pm ]
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Quote:
Guys, I'd like to get your inputs on this:
What's different in direct game from what every other AFC is doing and expecting to get judged by the looks and hopefully get lucky?
AFC= Talk More Bullshit
LOOKS= Not Talk AT All

Both still gets you there but one is easier. I shouldnt have to tell you which one.
Author:  Mind Hacker [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:51 am ]
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I probably should rephrase my question:
What's so special about direct game? I thought it was what every dude was doing?
Author:  Chopper Sixx [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:38 pm ]
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I probably should rephrase my question:
What's so special about direct game? I thought it was what every dude was doing?
AFC's rarely do direct game. They ask stuff like:
"Do you come here often?"
"What's your name?"
"Where are you from?"
They are indirect and they beat around the bush.

Sometimes, but more rarely than you would think, an AFC will compliment a girl.
"You're beautiful."
But he does this with a creepy smile and out of neediness.

If you just go up to a girl with solid confidence and say one of the lines above (edit: in an above post...not one of the lines above in this post), you are much, much different than an AFC, and it is definitely not what every other dude is doing.
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