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Author:  TheIntruder [ Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Gym parking lot opening opportunities
My gym has a really tiny parking lot. which at first pissed me off, but then I realised that it is actually a great opportunity to open. :twisted:

Since the parking lot is always full during peak hours, I end up having to wait a few minutes for someone to leave so that I can take their parking space.

I noticed that women, especially hot ones who think they can get away with anything because of their looks, steal parking spaces from AFCs who have been waiting before them.

The first time a girl tried to steal my parking space, I was very rude about it. It was a knee jerk reaction. The second time I did it more neutrally. Now I'm thinking I need to do it with a smile and have a cocky funny opener as well.

The only opener I can think of, which is kind of weak actually, is something kids used to say in grade school:

"Ladies first, but men before!"

Any suggestions :?:

Thanks in advance
Author:  TheIntruder [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:08 am ]
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Since no one replied, let me make it more general. What do you say to a girl who tries to take advantage of hte fact that she is a girl by cutting a line?

It is an opportunity too both DHV and open at the same time, and its going to happen to all of us over nad over again, because many women are just like that.
Author:  loyalknicksfan [ Mon May 03, 2010 12:38 pm ]
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Just be like "excuse me, i was waiting before you." do it politely. Treat them like you would treat any stranger who was trying to cut in line, and show them that your not startled by their good looks. At the same time don't be angry, so you won't come off as a nut. Next time you see her, neg her about her cutting in line.. You'll def see her at the gym again..
Author:  TheIntruder [ Tue May 04, 2010 12:21 pm ]
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That is basically what I did...guess there isn't anything else to say really.

Except I hate saying "excuse me". Sorry sounds bad too. Pardon sounds gay.

The English language fails us in this case. Its too "nice".
Author:  Scratch [ Tue May 04, 2010 5:37 pm ]
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You don't want to be nice, and you don't want to sound like a nut? Better keep your mouth shut then and go with non-verbals like letting her take your spot, or ramming her car with yours.


In my opinion excuse me is absolutely fine, it's not apologetic in fact said with the right tone in cant be downright indignant. Stop worrying about how you'll open and just get into a conversation and game as normal.

Simply by worrying about this so much you've already set yourself up to fail, you can't go on a forum and ask for ways to seem like you don't give a crap. Kind of an oxymoron no? The whole point is to treat beautiful women like anyone else, only game when you're attracted based on something else than their looks, and that comes with experience. So get out there and stop worrying.
Author:  TheIntruder [ Wed May 05, 2010 6:27 am ]
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Scratch, thanks for responding, but if you read the earlier posts, I was not trying to sound like a dick. I wanted to say something that conveyed personality.

As for the excuse me thing, google it...there are clearly two schools of thought on the subject among PUAs. Style says don't say it, it makes you sound like a beggar (although in this case there is a difference because it is followed by something alpha, unlike a normal opinion opener), other gurus say that it is OK to say excuse me.

Personally I don't like the phrase. It makes you sound weak.

I am not worried about it. I have an analytical mind. This is how I learn and I think this is how most of us learn, otherwise we would not be on these boards. I am trying to change my behaviour for the long term, not only in this specific situation.
Author:  the scamp [ Wed May 05, 2010 8:57 am ]
Post subject: 
I think I'd plump for;

(with a big smile)

"OI! Ginger/Blondey/Shorty" (gentle Neg)

"My space! Scoot!"

(wink)


Assertive behaviour counteracted by open friendly body language

Scamps
Author:  TheIntruder [ Wed May 05, 2010 9:34 am ]
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Yes, that sort of thing...it may take some practice to get that one righ though because it isn't "me" right now.
Author:  the scamp [ Wed May 05, 2010 9:38 am ]
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Bollocks

You are who you want to be.


So practice by saying it to girls, so maybe you calibrate it wrong the first few times, Does it matter in the big scheme of things?

Get in the car, listen to some music that makes you feel good, wear shades, whatever, feel happy
Author:  Scratch [ Wed May 05, 2010 10:56 am ]
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I would like to repeat what my fellow w. sussexer said. Bollocks.

You don't learn about individual situations, you learn how you can be your real, true self. And you are worrying, if you weren't worried you wouldn't be on here, what I'm trying to get across is instead of asking how to talk to them, just do it.
No one remembers the opener anyway! You need to start feeling comfortable with being your normal self, like how you are when you are with close friends and family. We could give you all the insane, funny openers in the world. But after you've said it you're not going to be able to carry on the bravado because, just like you said, it's not you.

YOU are fine just the way you are, you shouldn't be asking for ideas on how you can respond, but more on what you can do to free up your own mind so you can respond and think for yourself.

If you're really gunning for an opener in that specific situation, just be honest. Say "I think you girls try and take our spots because your cute, not today lady." Say it with a cheeky smile and see her on the inside of the gym.

Check out that daygame website I reccomended a while ago www.daygame.com
Author:  TheIntruder [ Wed May 05, 2010 11:49 am ]
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You misundestand me. I'm not that new to the game, by the way...but that particular phrase isn't me. I've never spoken that way before, not to mention that it is British and I'm not British.

My inner game is fine, but it would take time to practice saying that and have it come out naturally, because it is not a way of speaking that I use now, just like you would sound fake if you were forced to use American phrases or something that you are not used to saying.

And yes, while it is a frame of mind, these scripted lines help you develop that way of thinking. That is, after all, what the mystery method is about...fake it till you make it.
Author:  the scamp [ Wed May 05, 2010 1:47 pm ]
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Maybe you could say it in a faux English Accent?

:D


Scamp
Author:  the scamp [ Wed May 05, 2010 1:49 pm ]
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ps. Scratch, ANOTHER West Sussex PUA?


Was convinced I was the only one!

Props man, if ever you wanna sarge
Author:  Scratch [ Wed May 05, 2010 2:10 pm ]
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Ha yeah totally. I'm in Brighton, where abouts are you?

And to the intruder; if you're all about the mystery method (fake it till you make it) which is the most inefficient way of learning by the way. Then why are you posting this in the natural game forum?

Throw away MM, pick up TAC by Vin Di Carlo, read "Why the seduction community sucks" by LoGun and understand that faking it till you make it is an awful, old, and outdated way of learning pick up. Seriously.

Lines have their place early on, but you want to get rid of them as early as possible, if you rely on them it hinders your game development in amazingly complex ways.

Anyway, even if you don't take my advice I wish you all the best chap.
Author:  the scamp [ Wed May 05, 2010 2:17 pm ]
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Horsham, it kinda sucks.

Sorry to hijack the thread but my pm doesn't work!

Brighton sarging would be good though. i guess a spot of daygame?
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