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Author:  [AFC] Socrates [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:00 am ]
Post subject:  Can anyone become a natural?
Lets be honost, I am an afc and I am starting to study Natural game. I am reading the attraction code by Vin DiCarlo and I really want to become better at getting girls.

Ever since I started into this 'pua' stuff, i have been truly going down hill with life. I can blame everything on pua but things like my friendships with girls, they didnt like my new cocky/funny personality, or maybe i was just too cocky and wasnt good enough to use it.

Anyways I lost my social group , and truthfully I am like in no social group but kinda in one which is filled with loosers. My old social circle had alot of ppl, and some alpha males so I could have learnd from them. Now I am not part of that group but when I do go to hang with them, They dont control me and dont lead me, I am indipendent so i dont follow their tribe rules. Good thing and bad.

In my social group now, i dont really care much about it i want to leave.shit i just realized i am talking too much...lets get to the point.


So Im reading the attraction code and I honostly dont really want to pickup girls and dump them. I want to have girlfriends, ones that care about u, ones that u can experience love. I have only had 1 gf and she was hb8 and perfect but we broek up fast in a month. It was 3 years ago and i never have a gf after that.

After the breakup i started learning dd double ur dating . like cocky n funny, so ya.
didnt work out too good.

I have improved in the sence that I can go and meet girls open sets (sorta) but i am still nervious in the task.

I want to get a hot girlfriend who cares about me not just 1 night stand.
Am I really the onle one who wants this.
Maybe i might change but for now i need to improve my game.

I am in grade 12 17 years of age.

any tips on natural game?
so far i have only learned that social circle matters and u need to become the leader. dominance. alpha male. I need to act like an alpha male and thats most of what i learned right now.
Author:  Stand Up [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:44 am ]
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hey mate, don't quite no what you did that managed to alienate you from your friendship group, but you must have gotten pretty cocky. I love cocky-funny, although you've always gotta keep the funny, otherwise it's just rude.

as far as a relationship goes...how many one night stands have you had....?
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:27 am ]
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you are probably not authentic in communication and people notice that - you are giving your power away by being non-authentic.

i had the same experience a long time ago , not alot of friends in general and no female friends but i was still getting girls. Nowadays i fully understand my mind and how social psychology works thus im more in touch with myself and other people. Im more autenthic and people notice that , actually i can see if someone speaks to me through the ego or with non-authenticy.

my social circle is veryy small but filled with people of high intelligence and social psychological understanding, that doesn't mean alpha ... are they alpha on daygame, writing, speaking languages and traveling to countries ? yes.... are they alpha in every aspect of night game ? no

social circles do not have alpha males... nobody is alpha because value is dynamic and not static - other people are only alpha in certain scenarios or situations on the other hand you can control yourself to have value in every situation or scenario. people who want to control you are not good people ... really ...i often break off from my social circle in the club and on street to sarge , actually the best time you can invest and spend is time with yourself - people just need your attention or control over you because they don't have value themselfs.

ask yourself ... what do you consider alpha or value ?

since im freestyle natural right now im more into self development and spiritual growth, a year ago i would stick my head in any PUA material but that does not give me satisfaction, i believe development of the mind - development of principles make you better with life. The so called life strategies will give you understanding how society works - NOT only GIRLS and PICKUP - but society in general and that is important. So the material im in is generally self actualisation material similar like RSD blueprint decoded, you don't need tactics if you know tactics already - you need life strategies on principles.
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. like cocky n funny, so ya.
didnt work out too good.
but i am still nervious in the task.
if you are nervous you are not cocky ... maybe funny but not cocky, you are just incongruent in communication.

being alpha is not good body language or that kind of tactics based matter, what makes you alpha is your mindset - knowing who you are, and knowing you can accomplish anything. if you really know who you are you are authenthic thus the subcommunication will be alpha - with a stable comfortable energy.
Even after all these realisations i couldn't make friends with the enviroment in nightclubs... you know why ? i had too much value and i noticed people were not authentic. People in the nightclubs are in generally not good people and this is only true if you are the one with value and authenticy.
the way you are and think will attract certain people, do you want to attract shitheads and cokewhores ?

in fact i always go out on my own , i sarge alone day or night - because im having more fun on my own and i like the be anonymous. Strange people can't judge you that quick because they don't know you ( if they judge i don't give a shit), just notice your enviroment drawing value from you , people will procrasternate and will draw you into that vortex. People are value takers and most of your friends probably are value takers - when you know to learn how to control state -getting in state and what ''state'' does you will be surprised how people can sabotage your mood, in any way you should be comfortable without friends or social circle for several weeks - you don't need other things to make you happy if you are happy yourself.
state , social alliances, external validation, resistance ... especially the first two are important.
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I want to get a hot girlfriend who cares about me not just 1 night stand.
Am I really the onle one who wants this.
if you have a social circle who are the opposite of this you probably don't want to make female friends or compromise you value for friends in that enviroment.

RSD blueprint decoded is in general good material, you also should go / sarge on your own
Author:  [AFC] Socrates [ Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:21 pm ]
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yea, i see what you mean. But we still need some good friends, poeple who u can trust and rely on. I mainly want a social circle to have fun and go out more. I want girls in my social circle so i can ask advice on clothing or hairstyles or anything really.

I am pretty scared to go sarging alone. I never really went sarging b4 and i really think in my mind that the girls will think im an ugly creep.

I mean shudnt I work on my inner game first before going out and sarging?
I need to turn alpha and belive that i am the best and not care about what ppl think.
Author:  Rune [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:53 am ]
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Lets be honost, I am an afc and I am starting to study Natural game. I am reading the attraction code by Vin DiCarlo and I really want to become better at getting girls.
Well, that's a start.
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Ever since I started into this 'pua' stuff, i have been truly going down hill with life. I can blame everything on pua but things like my friendships with girls, they didnt like my new cocky/funny personality, or maybe i was just too cocky and wasnt good enough to use it.
Trial and error.
You're right; you're probably being too much of a jerk.

Do not be deceived bro; it's not the mean aspect of a jerk they like, it's the confidence in yourself they like.

The key is knowing who you are. That's your first objective.

To give you some leeway, I will tell you who I am: I am Rune, a future Ivy League History Professor, an entrepreneur, a businessman, a suit specialist, a gamer, a philosopher, a fighter, a contractor, a negotiator, and many more proficiencies to date. I have endured the struggle of finding myself in order to get women, and am proud of my accomplishments. I believe in God, and strive to keep a positive attitude in all situations, regardless of circumstance.

...find yourself first, THEN go for the girls.
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Anyways I lost my social group , and truthfully I am like in no social group but kinda in one which is filled with loosers. My old social circle had alot of ppl, and some alpha males so I could have learnd from them. Now I am not part of that group but when I do go to hang with them, They dont control me and dont lead me, I am indipendent so i dont follow their tribe rules. Good thing and bad.
Even if you're King of the Losers, you're still a loser.

Find yourself, then build yourself up. It's that simple.
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In my social group now, i dont really care much about it i want to leave.shit i just realized i am talking too much...lets get to the point.
If you want to leave, leave. Your choice; your mandate; your rules.

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So Im reading the attraction code and I honostly dont really want to pickup girls and dump them. I want to have girlfriends, ones that care about u, ones that u can experience love. I have only had 1 gf and she was hb8 and perfect but we broek up fast in a month. It was 3 years ago and i never have a gf after that.
If you want a girlfriend, you must not be deceived. The arts work for any situation (One nighter, Relationships, multi, etc...), but, what do YOU want?

I'm looking for a girlfriend as well. This is outlining some problems in MY own head as well ("All girls are cheating sluts", "She'll never like a nerd like me", "I don't have a solid group of friends", etc...)
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After the breakup i started learning dd double ur dating . like cocky n funny, so ya.
didnt work out too good.
As of now, this is new to you.
It's all good. Take a taste. Sample the arts.

BUT...
Choose what works for YOU. Don't follow something just because a guru wrote or said it. That is called being a tool.

Which retraces to the roots...Who are you?
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I have improved in the sence that I can go and meet girls open sets (sorta) but i am still nervious in the task.
Good. Keep going.
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I want to get a hot girlfriend who cares about me not just 1 night stand.
You want it, then focus on it. Make that one of your primary life goals. Set goals around it. Have faith. Pursue it. Keep going. I can tell you what to do, but YOU have to decide whether to do it or not.

I want a hot girlfriend I can love and fight and fuck and talk and kiss and smack and spit on and tickle and hug and caress and curse out and argue and play and cum inside of and suffer pain and eventually have a kid with.

...God aligns the path for whatever I want. I follow, unwaveringly.
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Am I really the onle one who wants this.
Maybe i might change but for now i need to improve my game.
Practice Practice Practice.
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I am in grade 12 17 years of age.
My god you're a baby.
You're not even in college yet. lol.

Disregard high school suffering. It's useless and stupid.
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any tips on natural game?
Only one, and it's the only one you need:
BE YOURSELF!!!
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so far i have only learned that social circle matters and u need to become the leader. dominance. alpha male. I need to act like an alpha male and thats most of what i learned right now.
No, you need to act like alpha YOURSELF.
Who are you?

Once you find out who you are, learn to LOVE yourself.

Once you LOVE yourself, the "alpha" will come naturally.

It all starts from within. You are but a mass of carbon and hydrogen atoms. You can MOVE yourself at your root.

Keep asking questions. Is your Screen name not Socrates? Use your noggin kid. No more bitchin.

Chin up, feet forward, fuck the seventh.
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:25 am ]
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and many more proficiencies to date
i assume that includes : writer who is addicted to the enter button and spacebar. :P
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But we still need some good friends, people who u can trust and rely on.
of course, especially when you can't rely on yourself
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I mainly want a social circle to have fun and go out more
you can't have fun on your own , with the above in mind .. you need other people to go out ? you need permission or the external confidence factor given by other people ?
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I want girls in my social circle so i can ask advice on clothing or hairstyles or anything really.
now i see this random excuse which is total bullshit , who cares what you looks like - looking good is subjective , if one chick tells you you are hot other won't think your hot..... you sound totally insecure.

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I am pretty scared to go sarging alone. I never really went sarging b4 and i really think in my mind that the girls will think im an ugly creep
here's the truth.... you just don't have the inner game , the confidence to do it yourself... deep in your mind you thought unconciously you were ugly and a creep - you were think this for many months or years probably.....i don't want to judge your inner game, il rather say ; it's not efficient for the goals you've set or the results you expect.
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I mean shudnt I work on my inner game first before going out and sarging?
mmm probably ... however this is the easy path and the more information and things you learn the more you beat yourself up about when it goes ''wrong '' ( there is no wrong,there's only learning ). if you are a bank manager with education you will beat yourself up when you make mistakes , however if you were a bank manager now without any knowledge ( never heard of a 17 year old bank manager so don't take the piss out of me :P ) you wouldn't worry too much about the mistakes you made. Be aware of the pros and cons - relationships between theory and practice ( in a self-psychological way of course)
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I need to turn alpha and belive that i am the best and not care about what ppl think.
yes but if you look through this filter you will only be a selective learner.... if you think body language will make you alpha only - you miss the whole point about voice tonality.... be flexible.......

you are the guy who is full of social conditioing and superficial values ... don't beat yourself up about it you are only 17 , people don't know a fuck when they are 17.
Author:  Rune [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:51 pm ]
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i assume that includes : writer who is addicted to the enter button and spacebar. :P
You already know!
The King Keyboard Jockey, at your service! =p

But yeah man, Socrates...bro.
Be you man. Find out who YOU are.

And win!
Author:  treytreigh [ Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:18 am ]
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I can blame everything on pua but things like my friendships with girls, they didnt like my new cocky/funny personality, or maybe i was just too cocky and wasnt good enough to use it.
Well obviously!! Your personality changed. They became friends with the real you, not the cocky new you. Don't fix something that aint broken.

You're too young to hit up clubs but go to parties and try some of the 'new' you on people who have never met you.

Girls your age are tough to break, go for the one who has the reputation of a slut :wink:
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