PUA Forum :: Do you do NADA? And natural game tips on opening.

"You're fine as you are. This is the one tip I can't help you with. Listen, I know the kind of situation you're in. I may not understand the specific situation and all of the details... But I've been through the pain of sitting alone on Friday night, wondering why your friends are out having fun and you decided to stay in.

I've walked down the street, hoping the pretty girl walking towards me would have some kind of "flaw" so I could 'excuse' myself for not approaching her. And I just remember how awful it felt to realize that if I wanted a girl to even just cuddle or hang out with.. I had no idea how, no tools, and no confidence to make it happen for myself.

The problem is that people make approaching something external to their character, a facet of something they want to get better at (i.e. game), but it's so simple; when you are an open friendly person, opening and approaching becomes part of who you are.

When you're not pretending to be someone else, and you're comfortable in your own skin then it all becomes much simpler, that was why I felt so unnatural when using lines and openers (although they do have their place). So remember - You are fine just the way you are, but that doesn't mean you can't improve, you whole life should be about improving, otherwise you just stagnate, but if should be a part of who you are.

When I walk down the street on my way home from work I make a point of talking to people, but only if they interest me. You wouldn't force yourself to talk to people that don't interest you if your a dominant man (there it is again.. Wink), and that's the point, when I'm in a club my only stock opener is: "Having a good night?".[/b]

Author:	Scratch [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:15 pm ]
Post subject:	Do you do NADA? And natural game tips on opening.
Put this in the wrong section, if an admin could delete the other thread for me it'd be much appreciated I don't post on here very often but I do like to post if I think I can contribute, seeing as opening is one of the biggest hurdles for newcomers I'd like to share some theory. First off I have a question for each and everyone of you reading this: How much do you actually open? I mean really, how much? I'm not going to shoot anyone down if they're brave enough to say "never" or "once or twice a week if someone gives me a massive green light". Because I think this is a serious problem, it's not AA it's Not Actually Doing Anything - NADA, Zilch, Zero. If you don't approach, you wont get better, you simply wont, you can read as much as you like, you can theorise as much as you like but you can't improve. I just read a leaflet on how to set up this awesome new coffee table I bought from IKEA, now I've read it, I have a better understanding of how to put it together, but it wont put itself together. I have to take action and pick up those bastard allen keys and get to it. Nothing else other than actual physical action will put that beautiful coffee table together. It's the same with game, you can read and read, and get a better understanding of how to put this beautiful game together, but until you actually get out there and start working on it.. Nothing is going to happen - NADA. Now I have a something I want to share with you that I think will help, straight out of the natural game ethos. First off, and make sure you re-read this a couple of times, You are fine just the way you are, yes that's right. No I'm not kidding. To quote an amazing piece in Vin Di Carlo's mastermind newsletter last month (courtesy of Rewok): "You're fine as you are. This is the one tip I can't help you with. Listen, I know the kind of situation you're in. I may not understand the specific situation and all of the details... But I've been through the pain of sitting alone on Friday night, wondering why your friends are out having fun and you decided to stay in. I've walked down the street, hoping the pretty girl walking towards me would have some kind of "flaw" so I could 'excuse' myself for not approaching her. And I just remember how awful it felt to realize that if I wanted a girl to even just cuddle or hang out with.. I had no idea how, no tools, and no confidence to make it happen for myself. So this tip.. It's simply to understand you're fine as you are. You are here because your specific genes were successfully passed down through hundreds of generations. No matter what 'flaws' you find in yourself, or you let others tell you that you have. And when you get this - really GET IT - There wont be a woman on the face of this Earth who wouldn't be proud to call you her boyfriend. And I am dead serious about this fact." Rewok took exactly how I feel and put it on paper in this article, in fact you should see if you can get your hands on his "#4 Tips for dominance" from this article, it's really all you need to start becoming a more dominant man (more on that another time). The problem is that people make approaching something external to their character, a facet of something they want to get better at (i.e. game), but it's so simple; when you are an open friendly person, opening and approaching becomes part of who you are. When you're not pretending to be someone else, and you're comfortable in your own skin then it all becomes much simpler, that was why I felt so unnatural when using lines and openers (although they do have their place). So remember - You are fine just the way you are, but that doesn't mean you can't improve, you whole life should be about improving, otherwise you just stagnate, but if should be a part of who you are. When I walk down the street on my way home from work I make a point of talking to people, but only if they interest me. You wouldn't force yourself to talk to people that don't interest you if your a dominant man (there it is again.. Wink), and that's the point, when I'm in a club my only stock opener is: "Having a good night?". It's that simple. - I hope that made sense to a lot of people, it's still difficult to put into words but I thought rather than sit on it for a few weeks I'd let you guys read it and draw your own conclusions. Feel free to ask any questions or PM me, I'd really like to hear peoples thoughts on this. _________________ - Scratch PM me with any questions. -You fail 100% of the time you don't try-[/b]

Author:	Kalel [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:04 am ]
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Almost every style of pickup emphasizes the need to go out and sarge regularly and consistently. This is the real reason why most guys improve with women. Not necessarily the individually styles or techniques he uses, but rather the life experience he gains by trying them out. That's why natural game exists. Because eventually we realized that the ultimate goal of studying techniques is to one day have no technique(<-Bruce Lee). And that attraction should be a state of being, rather than a set of skills. But this is only the beginning. Once you get really good with women. You must tear yourself down again. Look at what drives you and why. Look at how you view women and why. See how you view yourself and why. You must take 2 steps back, completely reevaluate everything you have learned, and then move forward once again. Then you will realize that there is no end to this journey, no state of perfection off in the distance, no complete understanding of women and pickup, there is only constant and continual improvement and learning.

Author:	lightbulb [ Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:16 pm ]
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i liked this , the bit about talking to people your not interested in , cause i do this sometimes and feel almost icky inside, no more!!!

Author:	~Finesse [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:59 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Do you do NADA? And natural game tips on opening.
Quote: "You're fine as you are. This is the one tip I can't help you with. Listen, I know the kind of situation you're in. I may not understand the specific situation and all of the details... But I've been through the pain of sitting alone on Friday night, wondering why your friends are out having fun and you decided to stay in. I've walked down the street, hoping the pretty girl walking towards me would have some kind of "flaw" so I could 'excuse' myself for not approaching her. And I just remember how awful it felt to realize that if I wanted a girl to even just cuddle or hang out with.. I had no idea how, no tools, and no confidence to make it happen for myself. The problem is that people make approaching something external to their character, a facet of something they want to get better at (i.e. game), but it's so simple; when you are an open friendly person, opening and approaching becomes part of who you are. When you're not pretending to be someone else, and you're comfortable in your own skin then it all becomes much simpler, that was why I felt so unnatural when using lines and openers (although they do have their place). So remember - You are fine just the way you are, but that doesn't mean you can't improve, you whole life should be about improving, otherwise you just stagnate, but if should be a part of who you are. When I walk down the street on my way home from work I make a point of talking to people, but only if they interest me. You wouldn't force yourself to talk to people that don't interest you if your a dominant man (there it is again.. Wink), and that's the point, when I'm in a club my only stock opener is: "Having a good night?".[/b] This applies so well to me. I've also made a thing of talking to strangers, but I've tried to make the opener relevant to situation. Also, the only thing I find odd, is opening with these canned material as it doesnt feel exactly me, Im naturally a cocky/teasing person, so its not too bad when im trying to neg/tease a girl, im surprised how well it works. The only thing that affects me is i can 'feel' myself making an active choice to do this, Im hoping this will eventually just become part of who I am and stops feeling un-natural. Good post though, family. ~Blend

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