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Author:  Adonis_Complex [ Wed May 28, 2014 1:01 am ]
Post subject:  Masculinity

It seems to me that society (especially women) are putting a negative spin on what it means to be masculine. Does anyone know why this is the case? It seems that nowadays being masculine is the equivalent with being an asshole. Why is there so much hate? Below are just a few examples of behaviors or mindsets that make me feel masculine, but I have heard and seen labeled as being an asshole:

-Take what you want, without asking for permission or apologizing. (within reason*)
-Do what you want, without asking for permission, or approval, and not apologizing when things go wrong
-Desiring an abundance of women, whether that be for ONS, FWB, Relationships, Etc.
-Being Sexually aggressive, and owning your intent for sexual relations (within reason* i.e. no means no)
-Desiring to be in charge and call the shots (Men are meant to lead not follow)
-Not qualifying yourself/sucking up to others, people should qualify themselves to you since you're the prize
-Commanding respect, and not putting up with other people's crap or lowering yourself
-Be honest and direct, tell people what you want, what you like, what you don't like, what you expect, whether the person is attractive, being stupid, doing a good job, doing a bad job, giving praise when praise is due, and likewise putting people in check

Author:  alphabro [ Wed May 28, 2014 8:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Masculinity

I haven't had the same observations. Masculinity will always hold its place in a society just like femininity will. I think maybe you are referring to the fact that the US is moving away from discrimination, towards political correctness. This includes looking at men and women differently. So in this case, I think it isn't necessarily being masculine that is looked down upon, it is calling it out or making it apparent there is a difference between men and women.

Author:  Adonis_Complex [ Wed May 28, 2014 10:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Masculinity

^point noted, though do you think that push for political correctness/equality is changing the dynamic of traditional male behaviors/characters.

I suppose the best example would be the American household. The concept of the traditional family is becoming a thing of the past.

More often, men are no longer the breadwinners and heads of the household. Furthermore, single parent family, and divorced families present an interesting dynamic.

The younger generation seems to be a wish-wash of the extremes.
-Hyper Masculine Males
-Feminine Males
-Masculine females
-Hyper feminine Females

Author:  alphabro [ Thu May 29, 2014 8:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Masculinity

Quote:
^point noted, though do you think that push for political correctness/equality is changing the dynamic of traditional male behaviors/characters.

I suppose the best example would be the American household. The concept of the traditional family is becoming a thing of the past.

More often, men are no longer the breadwinners and heads of the household. Furthermore, single parent family, and divorced families present an interesting dynamic.

The younger generation seems to be a wish-wash of the extremes.
-Hyper Masculine Males
-Feminine Males
-Masculine females
-Hyper feminine Females
I think the idea of the traditional family was working against masculinity far more than the destruction of the typical family. Think about, a man, with all his passions and dreams, his dick and desire, is forced to live under one roof with one woman and maintain the lifestyle of her and their children. Nothing is less masculine than this. Lions are known to mate with multiple lionesses and travel great distances from "family" to family, to help raise the cubs. He isn't sent to work each day, expected to return with more money than the other lions, and then taken for half his net worth upon divorce.

It is proven that men in long term relationships experience a drop in testosterone levels. Testosterone is argued by many to be the essence of masculinity.

I guess what I am trying to say is that I haven't been around since the birth of mankind, but I assume nothing has changed. Masculine men are looked up to by men and looked at as outsiders to women until they are ovulating.

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