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Author:  CatLicker [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Opening in Natural Game
Hello guys,
So I recently decided to ditch the canned material and tackle the Natural way. Even though canned material gets me some succes, it feels kinda fake, and I think I have the kind of potential required to go Natura.

My only question is how to open. Not an opener but how, like the general attitude. With the opener I'll usually go with a direct " I saw you walking by, I really liked you and just thought that I had to come and say Hello " But that's just my last resort if there was no observational opener. So how do you MPUA's think a Natural should open as far as physical game is concerned and all the other good stuff ? :)
Thanks
Author:  ConfidenceMatters [ Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Opening in Natural Game
Hey man. I'm glad you bring this up. While natural game is by far the best it's also the most challenging. In essence it means becoming an alpha or sigma male which entails a few things. Here's a list of the superficial traits you need to adopt:

-Learning open body language is a most. This portrays tons of confidence and is just generally very attractive.
-Dress well. Not foppish but well. Make sure everything fits properly and doesn't look like you got it out of the discount bin at Walmart. Google Glenn O'Brien and Peter Newman for reference.
-Learn to make comfortable facial expressions (no lip biting!) and measured eye contact while speaking, and looking distracted when others are speaking to you.
-Put on 10 lbs of muscle mass
-Correct all posture problems

Socially:
-Learn to communicate well: speak at a measured pace, enunciate, and use tonal inflections at the proper time
-Always memorize a few good stories and jokes.
-If anyone tried to clown on you just either ignore them or agree & amplify.
-Don't nod or lean in to listen to someone. Tell them to speak up.

Other:
-Make more money
-Be more aggressive and persistent when pursuing something.
Author:  CatLicker [ Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Opening in Natural Game
Thanks for the reply.
I really think I've got all of these checked and it's only when I got them covered that I decided to go Natural Game 'cause I thought that I can do better. The ONLY thing that bugs me is : Physical Game.

I realized that it's important to avoid the LJBF plus some Statements of Sexual Intent here and there. And I'm really comfortable Kino'ing girls. An issue arised when I saw RSD's infield videos like they go HEAVY KINO. And I don't know if it's just because they're clubbing in those videos. My question is, is it advisable to go THAT heavy on kino on Day Game ? ( As I mostly game on daytime ) or on Indirect Game ?
Author:  ConfidenceMatters [ Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Opening in Natural Game
Here's a good example of day game. Cheers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mRV5c48ZnM
Author:  CatLicker [ Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Opening in Natural Game
Thanks for the vid.
So essentially NO KINO during Daygame ?
Author:  ConfidenceMatters [ Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Opening in Natural Game
Kino is important, especially if you don't have a way with words. It communicates a lot of subtext. But it's not always necessary. You have to read the situation in order to figure out when it's ok. Here's an article.

http://www.girlschase.com/content/7-way ... -touch-you
Author:  armax [ Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Opening in Natural Game
It seems like your are trying to summarize and implement the kino approach as if it was canned material all over again. Being able to calibrate on the fly is still very much a part of the good natural game.

And of course you got to touch the girl. Even if you are not at a club you still got to let the girl know what's up.
Think about it, if the girl agrees to proceed with you, why would light kino be bad?

Your best results will come from the times you've been able to establish at least some form of a physical contact.
What you really need is some experience.

As long you don't base your entire interaction on just that and have a good smile and eye contact you'll be fine.
Author:  CatLicker [ Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Opening in Natural Game
Yeah Armax. I'm quite physical, but it's just that lots of guys have been promoting this idea that Kino will be detrimental to your daygame.
Thanks guys :)
Author:  davidlov [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Opening in Natural Game
"hey baby, you like six packs? well i have a 10." (lift my shirt) "im also bad with math, which is probably why i took up modeling. haha nah im also an aspiring actress because im really pretty"

(talking with a smirk as she laughs)

"wont you give me a hug barbie doll? lets see how sexy we look mashed together"

(hug her for like 2 seconds and then i grabbed her head and went for the kiss and i said,

" let me give you a blessing"

the rest was history. as i progress with women i use bits and pieces and bring up random topics that have worked for me in the past to keep conversations interesting avoiding awkward silences or maintaining sexual tension besides that everything is off the top of my head, have a sense of humor and if you can make yourself laugh then you can make anyone laugh. you don't have to be a model or an actor to say what i said, its called sarcasm. GO WITH THE VIBE !

look up willy beck on youtube and subscribe. i just recently discovered him and he is the greatest man alive imo.
Author:  bondjonathan [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Opening in Natural Game
I like the concept of Natural game or social calibration if you like. I find that the more you think about what to say when you open a girl the less genuine it appears from the girls point of view. I think it's best to just say how you feel and be DIRECT
Author:  CESARE [ Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Opening in Natural Game
I don't completely agree with what has been said here.

Here is what i think is right: natural-game-fully-explained-vt39114.html


And just for the records: I think that video is a fake. The girl knew what was happening and you can see it when she looks at the camera at second 12-13 of the video. I didn't see completely the video, but I don't think a random girl would let me flirt with her while recording it (anti-slut defence).

Keep sarging guys! Experience helps becoming confident and natural!
Author:  alxbkr [ Sat May 31, 2014 6:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Opening in Natural Game
Kino is complicated during day game. You still need it but you technically can't do as much as night game
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