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Author:  Do66y [ Sun May 19, 2013 7:45 am ]
Post subject:  Apocalypse Opener
I prefer the direct game, because it fits with my personality well. I've got two qestions regarding the 'Apocalypse Opener':

1. What does "Do you want to come home with me" exactly mean? Since I'm not a native English speaker - is this a direct question for sex or does the woman only think that you want sex if you ask her so?

2. Are there users out there in the jungle who had sccess with the Apocalypse Opener?

Thank you.
Author:  -..-.-.-.- [ Sun May 19, 2013 8:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Apocalypse Opener
What is your first language? Chances are somebody can provide you with an accurate translation.

Basically, you are only asking her if she wants to go to your place with you. However, there is a more or less arbitrary connection between the expression and having sex, much like the signifier/signified concept of de Saussure. Thus, it is not a direct question for sex, but it is mutually understood that agreeing to coming home with you also means that you're going to have some fun with each other.
It's pretty analogous to "grabbing a coffee", since this doesn't just mean getting a coffee together and parting company immediately after getting the coffee, but usually involves talking for a while.
Author:  Do66y [ Sun May 19, 2013 4:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Apocalypse Opener
Thank you.
So, the question is not as dramatic as it is presented by Ciaran :-)
My game is comparable, but I try to build up some attraction before I ask THE question:

1. Me: Hey, do you know that you're looking so sweet?
2. Girl: (blush) bla, bla
3. Me: You have a really sexy body..
4. Girl: (more blushing)
5. Me: I'd like to meet up with you. When do you have time?
(...)
1. and 3. shall pump in some feelings into the girl.
I don't know if it works. I'm going to that for the next 12 Months.
After that I'll know.

My first language is German.
Author:  -..-.-.-.- [ Sun May 19, 2013 9:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Apocalypse Opener
So the best translation would probably be "Willst du zu mir nach Hause kommen?" (I also am a native speaker of German). Don't underestimate the power of the question though; it is a very bold one to ask and it is not to be delivered with a smirk, since this would take away all the effect. You are essentially asking for sex with the question, and your counterpart will be aware of that (unless she's completely sexually oblivious).
Author:  ChitownMaverick [ Mon May 20, 2013 1:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Apocalypse Opener
IMO.

Bad opener.

Good close.

Women like guys who don't waste time with games and bullshit that take her farther from HER goal of getting some hot dick.

Did this two nights ago. Flirting, banter. Asked if she was single (I don't care but figured I'd ask). Yes. Asked if she thought I was attractive. Yes. Asked if she wanted to come home with me. She said let her think about it.

She thought about it and decided that if she came home with me, we wouldn't be hooking up. It was genuine, not ASD. I told her that's cool, I'm not really looking for just a friend. She understood and appreciated by directness.

Then she told me to add her on Facebook because she has some friends who might like to take care of me.

Loss? Victory?

Time will tell.

Lesson: Doing all this PUA shit, more often than not, makes you come off as a clown and a pussy. A few guys pull it off well but 99% don't really get it. You don't lose any power by expressing your interest and desires. That is what men do.
Author:  Do66y [ Mon May 20, 2013 8:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Apocalypse Opener
Sometimes I have the impression that the girls over here (Germany, and perhaps Scandinavia) are more bitchy than in the rest of the world. I often read that this extreme direct stuff works well in the U.S. and other countries, but here the girls rise up their bitch-shield very fast.

Well, "that's what men do", right, and so I don't change my style to indirect, knowing that gettig good results may be harder over here than elsewhere.
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