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Author:  Libertine Aim [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:40 am ]
Post subject:  Should I just tell her how i feel?
Ive known this girl for about a year, straight ten.
Shes been in a LTR all the time. I still have k-closed her 2 times thou, while she had the boyfriend, and we allways flirt (also in front of other people).
Her boyfriend and her broke up last month. Ive been seeing her alot since.
We kissed a few times after the break, but the last couple of weeks shes been rejecting me.
I think shes dealing with some trust-issues right now.
I want to make her my girl. Hands down, shes my oneitis.
Shall I just tell her how i feel about her?
Or what do I do?

Before anyone says it;
Yeah, ive been GFTOW the whole time I known her.
(She knows and have seen some of my pick-ups as well).

The reason we havent esculated sexually, is because she havent let me.
Ive tried a few times while kissing, but she have said that "she couldnt do that to her (previous) boyfriend".

Any advice is much appreciated!
In forward thanks,
LA
Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Should I just tell her how i feel?
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Shall I just tell her how i feel about her?
NEVER! Nothing will put you in LJBFs faster than this.

Here are the three biggest signs you are about to FUCK UP.

1. You start thinking “I don’t want to play games with this chick. I like her. Why can’t I just let her know.”
2. You think “This girl is different, I don’t have to play games with her.”
3. You think “She definitely likes me. We’re past the point I need to play games.”
The minute any of those thoughts creep into your mind, re-read this post. And DO NOT convince yourself that she is different. SHE IS NOT ANY FUCKING DIFFERENT!
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Ive known this girl for about a year, straight ten.
Ahhh already on the pedestal of "10". and you've not been sexual with her yet?
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Ive been seeing her alot since.
Pursuing her a lot since?
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Before anyone says it;
Yeah, ive been GFTOW the whole time I known her.
(She knows and have seen some of my pick-ups as well).
Why do you feel you need to treat her any differently than these girls then? She's Prettier? Smarter? Hotter? Different? NO SHE IS NOT!
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The reason we havent esculated sexually, is because she havent let me.
Ive tried a few times while kissing, but she have said that "she couldnt do that to her (previous) boyfriend".
So now you are afraid to try again?
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I think shes dealing with some trust-issues right now.

or tired of dealing with needy men issues?

Just seeing it from the outside Bro.
Author:  Libertine Aim [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Should I just tell her how i feel?
Allright, that was a wake-up call - thanks man.

Ive had a good run with one night stands for a while now.
Now Ive finally found a girl that I want to comit to.
Yeah, it may have blurred my mind - but she has everything that I want in a girl.

Im gonna see her tonight actually, and I dont know how to play my cards.
Yes, I have been pursuing her.
Shes been rejecting my kisses and I have taken it with a smile and tried again and again.
But she fucks me up! For example:
Last time we saw each other, she rejected me 3 times.
When we had split up, she wrote me in the evening:
"Hey, are you out? Thanks for today, had a great time!".

I dont know what my tactic shall be.
Im afraid I will get friendzoned, if Im not making her clear about my intentions.

Keep in mind that I have k-closed her. Both when she had her bf and not.
She have also seen me with other girls, so that may be a sign for her, that I dont think shes special?

All advice is much appretiated!
My friends say that I just shall "keep trying" and she will think its cute and give in some time.
Author:  worldrunner [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Should I just tell her how i feel?
I would go all in, and tell her how I feel.

The only way to get out of the Friendzone that I've seen working and that has worked for me is to tell her exactly how I feel.

About what the other guy replied... Well what can I say I was also brain washed by PUAs and their out of the world exaggerated theories and conspiracies.

Once she puts an objection or rejects you after being brutally honest, then use your PU skills and show that you are strong and do not need her... but let her put the objections first.
Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Should I just tell her how i feel?
Your welcome. She wants to chase you. She wants a challenge. She wants a guy she cannot completely figure out.
A lot guys think that when I say you can’t express interest this means you can’t let a girl know you are attracted to her.
WRONG.
You HAVE to let her know you are attracted to her. To do this you need to know how to talk to women.
Express your sexual intent and attraction all you want.
That is perfectly fine.
But, don’t let her know you want more than that.
You have to be stone cold impossible to read, ALOOF.

I would go no contact for a day or two, then, I would see if I could get her worked up to a little "sexting"

by texting a few sexy questions to a girl, you can always make it seem like a joke if she doesn't warm up to you.

And the best part, it’ll work wonders for flirty girl you have a crush on. Text her these late at night for best results! When you think she is getting ready for bed, and has time to reply.

Start s.l.o.w.

"Are you alone?"

"what are your doing right now?"

"What are you wearing?"

See where this is going?
Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Should I just tell her how i feel?
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I would go all in, and tell her how I feel.

The only way to get out of the Friendzone that I've seen working and that has worked for me is to tell her exactly how I feel.

About what the other guy replied... Well what can I say I was also brain washed by PUAs and their out of the world exaggerated theories and conspiracies.

Once she puts an objection or rejects you after being brutally honest, then use your PU skills and show that you are strong and do not need her... but let her put the objections first.
So, it's okay to only use PUA "exaggerated theories and conspiracies" only after you fuck it up?
Author:  Libertine Aim [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Should I just tell her how i feel?
So far so good!
By now, I have been really sexual to her (part of my frame).
Maybe over the top.
You know, to the part where she starts to hit me in a flirty way, when I get over the line.
She once asked me, after I tried to kiss her, what I thought of her. I said I liked her.
Not in the serious "Im in like with you" but with a poker face.
She said she liked me too, and we high-fived.

Have I shot myself in the foot?
Im quite confused about it, because allthough she seems to like when I compliment her ass, she still rejects me.
This is where I thought that she may be a girl that you have to unlock emotionally to lay her down?
I want more with her, but she may think that I just want to get in her panties;
She have seen me with a couple of other women + my sexual agressiveness to her.
Thats why I thought of telling her straight, that I want something with her.
Im going on a date with another girl this weekend, and she knows. She asked about it and all that.

How can I change the situation?
Ive thought of cancelling the date, and next time we see each other then tell her I cancelled because I want something with her only.
Is it too dramatic or drastic?
Author:  Libertine Aim [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Should I just tell her how i feel?
Btw, great idea with the sexting bro!
I jack off to her occassinly, so why not let her know when I do it anyway :lol:
Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Should I just tell her how i feel?
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So far so good!
By now, I have been really sexual to her (part of my frame).
Maybe over the top.
You know, to the part where she starts to hit me in a flirty way, when I get over the line.
She once asked me, after I tried to kiss her, what I thought of her. I said I liked her.
Not in the serious "Im in like with you" but with a poker face.
She said she liked me too, and we high-fived.

Have I shot myself in the foot?
Im quite confused about it, because allthough she seems to like when I compliment her ass, she still rejects me.
This is where I thought that she may be a girl that you have to unlock emotionally to lay her down?
I want more with her, but she may think that I just want to get in her panties;
She have seen me with a couple of other women + my sexual agressiveness to her.
Thats why I thought of telling her straight, that I want something with her.
Im going on a date with another girl this weekend, and she knows. She asked about it and all that.

How can I change the situation?
Ive thought of cancelling the date, and next time we see each other then tell her I cancelled because I want something with her only.
Is it too dramatic or drastic?
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Have I shot myself in the foot?
I don't think that at all, in fact I think you've done pretty well Bro. On MOST points anyway.

I still think you needed that cold slap in the face on the 1st part LOL.

So far you have been all "full throttle" maybe it's time to flip a switch and back off a little?
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when I compliment her ass, she still rejects me.
I take this to mean in the literal sense? "Your ass is hot"? That does not mean "Stop"!

Of course she must "playfully" reject...ASD.
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I want more with her, but she may think that I just want to get in her panties;
I get that, but truthfully the way it works is, panties 1st, emotional crap 2nd.
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+ my sexual agressiveness to her.
Do you think you could tone this down to "Sensual Confidence"?
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Ive thought of cancelling the date, and next time we see each other then tell her I cancelled because I want something with her only.
No but I might say something like "I feel I must compare her to you as my standards are high".
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She once asked me, after I tried to kiss her, what I thought of her. I said I liked her.
I would have said "Hell yes, your like my best buddy, and bratty little sister all rolled into one".
Author:  Libertine Aim [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Should I just tell her how i feel?
Yeah, that might be a good idea.
Lay her on some ice for some time.

To be more correct, I say stuff like;
"Your ass seems so soft I want to use it as a pillow".
Allways with a playfull attitude.

About the sensual confidence, what do you mean excactly?
Is there somewhere I can read more about it?
I guess I could go Barry White-style sometimes, but I dosent know when etc..

Probs for the line with standards.

She litteraly just texted me this second, calling our plans off for tonight.
She ended the message with:
Maybe we can see each other another time? For ex. before you go on your date :)"

So shes well aware. Thats a good sign, right?
Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Should I just tell her how i feel?
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She litteraly just texted me this second, calling our plans off for tonight.
She ended the message with:
Maybe we can see each other another time? For ex. before you go on your date :)"

So shes well aware. Thats a good sign, right?
A little shit test huh? LOL Yeah take that as a sign of interest.

No reply necessary, why reward for such behavior? Unless the only thing I would say is "After" Your call.
Author:  Libertine Aim [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Should I just tell her how i feel?
Fuck didnt see it as a shittest?
Rather a kind sign of interest, where I should reward her.
Wrote back "lets look at it.".
Fuck it, Im gonna hang her dry from now on and wait for her to contact me.
And go on the date as planned.

Thanks man.
She has a soft spot on me, and you just made me realize.
I have to be more hars on her bullshit in the future.
"Shes just a girl im gaming!".
Author:  stirlingscot [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Should I just tell her how i feel?
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I would go all in, and tell her how I feel.

The only way to get out of the Friendzone that I've seen working and that has worked for me is to tell her exactly how I feel.

About what the other guy replied... Well what can I say I was also brain washed by PUAs and their out of the world exaggerated theories and conspiracies.

Once she puts an objection or rejects you after being brutally honest, then use your PU skills and show that you are strong and do not need her... but let her put the objections first.
I'd do exactly the same but in severe isolation and with a slight sexual frame. that is what I would do.

And if she rejects, tell this "10" on ignore list until she is ready to fuck you
Author:  stirlingscot [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Should I just tell her how i feel?
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Fuck didnt see it as a shittest?
Rather a kind sign of interest, where I should reward her.
Wrote back "lets look at it.".
Fuck it, Im gonna hang her dry from now on and wait for her to contact me.
And go on the date as planned.

Thanks man.
She has a soft spot on me, and you just made me realize.
I have to be more hars on her bullshit in the future.
"Shes just a girl im gaming!".
I think you should gftow but at the same time have this one as backup, but don't supplicate her, no-no
Author:  mucko [ Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Should I just tell her how i feel?
It is a common saying "never play the poker of love with opened cards"

She might be different for you, but nevertheless she is just a girl so pua techniques should work with her. Follow Heywood Jablowme's instructions ;)
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