| PUA Forum https://pick-up-artist-forum.com/ |
|
| Direct Game Help https://pick-up-artist-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=135&t=156135 |
Page 1 of 2 |
| Author: | potential pua [ Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Direct Game Help |
I've recently gotten into Direct Game...I noticed that going directly to my target and using a more direct approach has really improved my inner game (immensely) while also reducing getting nervous over approaching. I go in straight to my target with a direct approach and typically get a good response. My question is for those who use direct game....how do you transition right after using a direct approach? I've noticed that she loves my confidence initially but I stall out and try natural game and it didn't work at all Thanks for any input |
|
| Author: | Heartnet [ Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Direct Game Help |
I can give you 3 things to watch out for, when you doing direct game. 1- Time, direct game work between when the time limit is short so both of you have to go somewhere. So bottom line, either you ask number or instant date after 3-4 minutes or you are out 2- Emotion, if you go direct and spike her emotion up then you have to keep the roller coaster going. if you going back to all these boring question instead of using bold assumption and be very free with sexuality, give up direct. 3- Investment, if you are not qualifying her and the conversation is not 90% oriented on qualifying and relate on some value level with her you are wrong on the conversation part. Conversation comes with practice but these will help you direct your conversation a bit better then so what you do for living and jump into boring subject. |
|
| Author: | Entouraged [ Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Direct Game Help |
Just talk about yourself and your passions for a bit, then qualify her, see what she is passionate in. Listen to what she says and take a convo from there. You are sexy as fuck had to come here and say hi... she responds: hey haha how are you Your response: you have an accent let me guess ur (Place) she says what ever... I am from XX your response, now the way to naturally transition is say something about that place mb a story you know or have experienced personally... Story time is the best time, we have loved it since kindergarten why stop now. Then after you talk about her location or what not go into passions, what do you do what are you studying (if a student) and ask why, get to know her a bit. If she responds well she is showing interest, then just get a day two take her out for drinks or insta date |
|
| Author: | potential pua [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Direct Game Help |
Thanks guys, great info. Heartnet - you wrote exactly what I was doing wrong with #2 -- I wasn't taking her on any kind of emotional roller coaster at all. I would seem to jump into interview mode as if my confident approach was enough to overcome everything else... Entouraged - I like the way your convo begins I think mostly why I wasn't being successful is that I was relying too much on trying to be natural as I was acing the comfortability stage and being funny, but definitely not attracting. I was getting plenty of #'s but it led to a shit ton of flakes Thanks again |
|
| Author: | puaninja [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Direct Game Help |
I think that a lot of guys can open strong, but fizzle out shortly thereafter. Generally it's because they can't keep the girl intrigued/entertained, then they start coming across as needy and seeking her approval/attention. |
|
| Author: | wingintyme [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Direct Game Help |
I would suggest to keep practicing. I don't do much direct game any more but I suppose even a broken clock is right twice per day so if you do it long enough with women who aren't as good looking as you, eventually it will work. What Entorage said "you are sexy as fuck I just had to say hi" is not gonna be good for attracting a high percentage of women. for one reason you start the conversation cussing. a large percentage of women don't like hearing the word "fuck" especially by a random guy. for another, women don't like being referred to by random men as "sexy" as a pick up line. So if just half the women don't like hearing "fuck" and another half don't like hearing "you're sexy" you just killed off about 75 to 90% of your approaches with your first line. whatever percent is left is probably not going to be impressed that half the weird guys who approach her say the same thing without the "fuck" and without the "sexy"so she's probably bored with it. But again, if you like it , try it. Throw enough shit at the wall and maybe something will stick. You are asking the question, how do you transition b/c you run out of things to say. It's a simple answer. It don't really work on women of equal or higher value to you. Go indirect, and learn how to transition to direct. |
|
| Author: | potential pua [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Direct Game Help |
I was typically going in with something along the lines of... "Hey! I thought you were really cute and had to come say hello..." I jumped on the RSD bandwagon not too long ago after meeting up with a wing who only knew RSD. Unfortunately, I have zero ability to naturally "game" so the conversation would just be comforting, not attracting. Bringing out the books and am going to read Mystery Method again so my mid-game can greatly improve. Luckily, the awesome thing about getting used to direct game and studying RSD is that my inner game is so damn tight now that I'll be able to do MM better than I used to. Thanks for the input |
|
| Author: | Entouraged [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Direct Game Help |
I actually was just giving an example, and that was the first thing that came to mind, you are right about cursing, and such. To be completely honest, instead of saying sexy as fuck... I actually like to use my (somewhat college education) and use phrases like... You look radiant, I just had to meet you. Why? Because everyone says beautiful, who says radiant. But yea, was just making a point, and typing quickly, and that just was typed hahaha. Reading too much into it though, if you don't care what you say, and are congruent with your actions, mind, and words, who cares, she sure as hell won't. |
|
| Author: | puaninja [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Direct Game Help |
Or "you look vibrant". I heard that used on a hot chick recently and it worked really well. |
|
| Author: | potential pua [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Direct Game Help |
anything about energy seems to work well (vibrant, good energy, energetic, happy, etc..) I'm about to get into yoga (first class tomorrow) so I can definitely use anything about energy or great body language as an opener After getting back to reading MM, I think that direct and indirect can work (the only difference of the two is when your interest is conveyed during the interaction). It's all about mid-game that dictates any type of closing. I've actually had pretty good success going direct into a 2-set---looking at target (direct opener), then turn to friend "i think your friend is adorable...mind if I talk to her for a few minutes?" ---surprisingly great success, but back to the original comment about where to go from there is why i wouldn't get great at closing using direct. |
|
| Author: | Paul_T [ Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Direct Game Help |
I can only say what works for me... but basically, I want her to be doing most of the talking, and I want her talking about her. Builds investment, gives more chances to tease her and joke around, and I find out more about a (hopefully) cool girl. So after I go direct, I just start talking about her. Contrary to the usual advice of "it gets boring", it doesn't as long as you keep a balance between talking about you, and talking about her. In practice, this normally looks like this: "Hey, I know you're busy, but I just say you and thought you looked really stunning" "thanks" "yeah, and You are definitely dressing in a very moroccan style... are you moroccan?" "no" "Oh... well did you intend to dress in a moroccan style" "no" "ah shit... well... apparently I'm not Gok Wan and don't know anything about fashion! But maybe you dress like your job, what do you do?" <-- they key is to laugh about it and not get flustered. Cut the topic and try another topic. "I'm a reporter" <-- finally, something to work with! |
|
| Author: | potential pua [ Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Direct Game Help |
Yea that makes sense I still use direct approach during the day and that's a conversation that definitely would happen during the day. For some reason, in night game, I just chump out and stall when using a direct approach. Oh well! Back to the drawing board....but i've taken away some good notes from here and will incorporate into my night game. I think some sets at bars are best opened with direct approach |
|
| Author: | AFC AzA [ Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Direct Game Help |
me : hey, I'm aza hb : I'm HB me : great HB... so what do you do other than looking fabulous ? hb: haha blah blah me : no shit ? blah blah... okay... I'M RUNNING OUT OF THINGS TO SAY ! you better work on girl haha hb : haha lets talk about blah blah sometimes I add this line after introducing myself "I just wanted to say something.... I'M SINGLE" in deep flirtous tonality hahaha... its pure gold. |
|
| Author: | Eerie [ Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Direct Game Help |
Here's a direct opener I just came up with to help with the transition. Let me know what you think. Open with: You're super pretty so I had to come say hi to find out if you are sexy. After her response which I would imagine would be some sort of inquiry as to the sexy comment at the end. I would transition into conversing about the difference between sexiness and simply being outwardly pretty. Whether sexy for you is how smart she is in certain areas, or how she walks, stands, tone of voice, etc. Then from there you can probe her about her ideas of sexiness vs looks. Then from there you can just go with the flow and naturally converse about it. Might be loads of neg opportunities and cocky funny stuff to throw in like exaggerating one of her beliefs of sexy as a joke. |
|
| Author: | potential pua [ Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Direct Game Help |
Have you used it in field much? If so, how are the responses? I must say that's a pretty nice direct opener. Major props...i really like the ambiguity with the statement. You're saying that you're attracted to her, but at the same time, she could take it that you're also trying to figure her out as well. I have just recently gotten into yoga, and I believe that this could easily lead to energy I've experienced from this new practice and how much sexual energy is found within yoga and to "screen" her if she contains any sexual energy. Really like it bro, Thanks. |
|
| Page 1 of 2 | All times are UTC |
| Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group http://www.phpbb.com/ |
|