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| Author: | ColdNovember [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | I want your advice/opinion |
My style of game involves the art of deep diving(chase amante), which essentially gets the girl to tell me her life story and get extremely comfortable with me very quickly. This involves her blabbing about her dreams, childhood, current problems, etc. while i basically prove to be an open mind and ear, just listening and relating to her when nessecary warmly and positively. By doing this, girls usually think that even though they just met me 5 minutes ago we have a "spark" between us. Now, ive been thinking and experimenting on how to escalate from there. N-closes are pretty easy once a successful deep dive has been accomplished and she is comfortable talking about anything. But K-close? F-close even? How can i use this comfort to achieve those? |
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| Author: | officialpoypoy [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I want your advice/opinion |
youv mastered comfort which is awesome. you can take her information and use it to reply with a few flirts, that sounds really good. like... hb: I WANNA BE A BALLERINA! u: lets practice! *PUA SPIN* wow you really suck at this!!! |
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| Author: | puaninja [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I want your advice/opinion |
That's a good strategy. It establishes a connection/spark/chemistry...even if it's forced and artificial. All you need to do from there is just continue on with your pickup routine. Go to rapport and seduction next. A lot of guys make the mistake of doing something right, then thinking "Okay, now I have to get her to kiss me or fuck me." But you don't need to sprint to the finishline just yet. Have some patience and keep working the set for a while without telegraphing too much interest or dependency on a favorable outcome. Heck, after you get her locked in, break rapport and tell her you have to go make a phone call. Let her sit there thinking for a while: "Is that cool guy going to come back and talk to me?" |
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| Author: | poeticlyskuac [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I want your advice/opinion |
Be SEXUAL- you need to be sexual. It is important to have them have sex on their mind with an association to you. My style is to build Attraction, then the connection, and then Sexual tension, this style is like using every aspect of a successful beginning relationship. This can all happen in a minute or over the course of a 20 minute conversation or longer. My advice to you is when you listen to her do what warped mindless (one of the best posters on the forum no doubt) refers to as laser eyes. Look at her in the eyes (strong eye contact) and think about how much you want to fuck her. You kind of get her point across without saying a worse. Sexual escalation is also a must, always be escalating and pulling back if needed (read and react accordingly), not at a creepy level but if you don't make it sexual to begin with then you won't have that association as anything but a strong close friend (that is what connections create a relationship you don't want to change). Attraction can come through the connection and the sexual tension. Attraction is part of how you carry yourself, your style, and attitude. If you want to be a good with women you'll have individuality in every area (your own personality) but you just need to be attractive through every facet. Work on your self-confidence and self-esteem (not that you sound unconfident, you don't but those things are an ongoing maintenance by way of good habits), carrying yourself as more attractive, and vibing a sexual aura (this comes through attitude and mindset). If you learn to be attractive and sexual your close rate will go up 10 fold, sexual being the biggest part because you get to sex by being sexual. Read warpedmindless's esp post (<---his articles here) and that will help you quite a bit, you can also check out 60 YOC as I think it is a big part of it. Another great sexual escalation guide is cieran's shock and awe technique in the pua lounge area. Long but well worth a read. Peace and Love, Vic |
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| Author: | AFC AzA [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I want your advice/opinion |
for me getting too comfortable is bad. there is no pressure, no excitement, no tension. my game is attraction - sexuality - connection - rapport im not good looking dude so i gotta stay sexual... or its easy to get friendzoned |
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| Author: | davidlov [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I want your advice/opinion |
imo i never ask questions too deep cause really i don't care enough as i just met her, the only way ill act as an open ear and then not judge her is if she voluntarily starts blabering about that stuff herself. the REAL way to spark an intense connection is being a master of flirting and know how to tease without ever getting to the point so soon. be the charming funny flirtatious guy that knows what to do with his hands, you'll probably break her heart if you don't call her. |
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| Author: | fleetersamuelli [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I want your advice/opinion |
i prefer to walk into a place and start flexing |
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| Author: | andyredsox [ Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I want your advice/opinion |
It's good that you have actually practiced the art of listening dude! Not all girls will respond F-close all of the sudden but at least you have established a comfort zone. You did mention, you listen to their blabber? Use that to gauge if you can do the next move of getting her to F-close mode. You might be surprised if she will gladly indulge! |
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| Author: | inpencil [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I want your advice/opinion |
I'd close it in 5 minutes after the deep dive was established. In the bathroom. |
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| Author: | davidlov [ Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I want your advice/opinion |
This is how you kiss close. Just go for it at anytime because it doesn't matter and don't give up if she pulls away. Thats cool and stuff but id rather talk about random stuff, funny things that happened to you, stories, ask her what her job is and be humorous while keeping sexual tension. |
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