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| Author: | Mr Reactive Sweatman [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | After direct opening, repeating problem |
Okay so i could use some help from you guys. Ive been starting to open more direct and it gives so really great results. SOMETIMES. Sometimes, i will open direct and strong for example: *claw* 'hey who are you, you're hot' i usually get a really good reaction from this (if i dont i can usually tell why) The problem is then immediately following this. often the girl will be interested and i can carry on with conversation and escalation. HOWEVER, a lot of the time the girl will say thankyou and tell me her name smiling but then give an excuse to move on to find her friends or whatever. i have tried joking around to get them to stay, i have tried being dominant and saying no, i have tried joking around calling them rude.. etc etc but nothing seems to work can anyone help with this little annoyance? cheers guys |
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| Author: | pumpington [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:51 am ] |
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be less needy, let her go, go talk to a different girl when this happens, you can always go re-open her later maybe try being less aggressive physically to begin with, let it happen more gradually so the girls are more comfortable, don't mistake this for be afraid to touch, touch the girl, just lower the level of compliance to begin with, and build it, be more subtle with the touching, and let it happen gradually think of it like this, some random person you don't know, walks up and without ever even talking to you, throws their arm around you, but heres the catch, they are twice your size and can kick the fuck out of you easy, how do you act? |
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| Author: | Mr Reactive Sweatman [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:57 am ] |
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haha yeah i get what you mean about looking at it from the girls point of view. maybe i am coming in from a place of neediness and need to be more free from outcome. the weird thing is, with a lot of these sets that go, is that they seem to be very interested and throwing loads of IOIs and good eye contact yet still they 'need to go' but then, maybe me seeing them showing interest like this, again, makes me less free from the outcome |
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| Author: | pumpington [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:17 am ] |
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Quote: haha yeah i get what you mean about looking at it from the girls point of view.
maybe they just don't want to seem easy, or have boyfriends, or are slightly nervous and trying to not piss you off cause you seem to have balls, who knows, no point in over thinking it, just let em go, then go back and re-open them latermaybe i am coming in from a place of neediness and need to be more free from outcome. the weird thing is, with a lot of these sets that go, is that they seem to be very interested and throwing loads of IOIs and good eye contact yet still they 'need to go' but then, maybe me seeing them showing interest like this, again, makes me less free from the outcome it even helps in bars to do less to begin with, walk around and break the ice with plenty of people, just to socialize, keep it short and snappy, learn some people's names, pay attention to the reactions you are getting, go re-open people with good reactions, and game the girls that you liked just realize there is no hurry, you don't have to escalate and fuck a girl in 10 minutes, you can take your time and get to know her and fool around for fun, if your not enjoying yourself and you're just there to fuck, then they can sense it, you might as well just ask them home right away if that's the mind frame, know where your leading but de-tach from needing it to happen |
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| Author: | Mr Reactive Sweatman [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:28 pm ] |
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yeah ill try to just be a bit more chilled and just move on to other girls and maybe re-open later. thanks for the help pumpington @tonyking yeah i guess you are kind of saying treat the root of the problem rather than the problem its self by analysing my game? i dont think im being too deep though, my style is more fun and flirty. initially anyway! cheers guys |
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