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Author:  username290 [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:15 am ]
Post subject:  Clubbing- Alone vs Group
I've read up on clubbing and found that the general consensus is to make it look like you're not there to get laid but to have a good time, and to dance with some bros (not sexually) but not be in a big group. I've also read up on that its bad to walk around alone. But, its also bad to be with a group of guys. So my question is what exactly should I do/most people do? I'm guessing you stand in line with some of your friends, then when you get in the club what do you do?Break up and go solo? Here, you'd end up alone. Do you stick to small groups of 2 or 3 people?

Any help on the club gamer for an incoming frosh at college would help a ton!
Author:  IOWA [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:07 am ]
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It really depends on the club. i say go a couple times with friends hang out with them enjoy yourself and open sets its not some deep black hole you are entering and you will know what to do once you have been a few times. keep opening keep positive and keep gaming and the rest will unclothes itself for you.
Author:  username290 [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:06 pm ]
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Alright thank you. It's a club adjacent to my college, so I'll probably know some broads and then some guys. I'll probably go with guys but then is it the norm to all break up or stay in small groups and have fun?

Any general clubbing tips would help too- first timer.
Author:  sika [ Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:38 am ]
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if you have mates that are keen, great. if you dont, go anyway.
all my mates have girlfriends so just want to stay home with mummy, so I go out by myself.

what this dose is you have to fit into their group rather than them joining yours
which is abit of a bummer, but not an issue. just be fun and they will invite you to stay with them (verbally or not). then start to lead the interactions once you are past that hooking point, slow things down and switch the vibe to sexual. be careful not to stay in the fun vibe all night, as its a trap. push pull. work the basics. youll be sweet

I hate it when people say I need a wing or a group to go with. social proof is only one piece of the puzzle.
Author:  Vinicius [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:00 pm ]
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I hate it when people say I need a wing or a group to go with. social proof is only one piece of the puzzle.
I agree with you almost completely because I think that when you're jus starting it's best to go it alone. However, if you're having trouble doing things on your own I don see any issue in going out with a group or a friend or two. But, I wouldn't spend all my time with them. Consider your group your recharge station. Get comfortable and in a good state of mind and then go and start approaching girls. As you're still feeling happy from being with your friends, this can easily be interpreted as confidence if you approach. If the feeling starts to fade away because of AA or rejection or whatever other reason, go back to your friends and get recharged before going back into the field.

Nothing wrong with walking around a bar or club alone. The most important thing is how you walk. As Mystery would say, "You need to move with purpose" (like you're on a mission) rather than just awkwardly shuffle around as this can DLV (demonstrate lower value).

PS Does this make sense to people? I'm still new to the PUA community and wanna make sure what I'm believing and preaching is accurate
Author:  getwit [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:13 am ]
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It really doesn't matter, in my opinion. I always go to the club with my boys, but when I go after a girl, it's always by myself. Having a wingman just introduces more logistics. I lock in and focus on my target on the dancefloor. At that moment my friends and her friends are not even in my mind
Author:  sika [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:54 am ]
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I also find that "wing men" fuck up more than they help.
so unless you have trained them well or they know whats up, they generally are just a pain in the ass. theyl blow you out of a set by choading, try steal your girl, tell stories and jokes that lower your value just to look cool in front of a bunch of girls.
Iv had girls ask If I can stay but get rid of my friends, but thats not how I roll. unless its the end of the night and im heading home for sex I dont ditch.

If I go out alone, I go more direct. straight up and fun, I acually find it easier when my friends arnt there to pull me back to what they think is normal.
also going direct means you are risking rejection alot more, Id rather not give my friends something to give me shit about. I find its alot easier to stay in state when your pushing the limits and no one is there that is going to try fuck with you, call you on your failures and try make jokes on your behalf.

and besides if no-one is going to see you fail then it wont get braught up at every party you go to for the rest of your life for a cheep laugh.
and hell you make way more friends this way
Author:  Thyde [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:18 pm ]
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If your large group is high energy, full of good people that you have good relationships with then I can't see a downside. I think the main problem with big groups is if there are any AFC's in there then being associated with them brings down your value (especially if they shoot you down in a set or get into a fight)

sika is right, unless you have a trained wingman then they can usually fuck up more than they help.

I think the best thing I can say here is quality over quantity.

Vinicius has a point too, there's nothing wrong with being in a club alone. You can still do false time constraints like 'I have to meet my friends outside so I cant stay long' as long as you don't look uncomfortable by yourself.

I usually prefer going out with one guy. Remember that obstacles aren't always one person. One well trained wing man can occupy more than one obstacle while you isolate a target. If you're alone you will find it harder to isolate as it's not common to find good looking girls alone.

Thyde
Author:  wiiguy [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:02 pm ]
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It really doesn't matter, in my opinion. I always go to the club with my boys, but when I go after a girl, it's always by myself. Having a wingman just introduces more logistics. I lock in and focus on my target on the dancefloor. At that moment my friends and her friends are not even in my mindImage
I would agree, but with groups over 3 people, I like to have a wingman. 3 or less I really prefer to go in alone.
Author:  Wall1e [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:50 pm ]
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At club game i usually go alone, because then you are showing confidence, and just approach who you want.

However, having a strong and experienced wingman sure helps out a lot, because girls sometimes have friends who literally drag your target away.

A good challenge at club game is the kiss rejection challenge, in which you try to kiss her whenever you feel you want to.
Author:  fajitaman89 [ Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:44 pm ]
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Depends. If the wing challenges you, and doesn't compete with you, then it is a good idea. Otherwise, go it alone for a while until you find guys who you can learn from.
Author:  ALPHA LiON [ Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:22 pm ]
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keep opening keep positive and keep gaming and the rest will unclothes itself for you.
I see what you did there :lol:
Author:  skills360 [ Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Clubbing- Alone vs Group
Quote:
I've read up on clubbing and found that the general consensus is to make it look like you're not there to get laid but to have a good time, and to dance with some bros (not sexually) but not be in a big group. I've also read up on that its bad to walk around alone. But, its also bad to be with a group of guys. So my question is what exactly should I do/most people do? I'm guessing you stand in line with some of your friends, then when you get in the club what do you do?Break up and go solo? Here, you'd end up alone. Do you stick to small groups of 2 or 3 people?

Any help on the club gamer for an incoming frosh at college would help a ton!

Hey dude! forget about what you read it depends on the situation, being with friends is ok if they are high value and social, if they are low value and make mistakes, they will automatically bring down your value guilt buy association. Gaming alone is good and gives you advantages as long as you are social and know people at the club or open people, you do not want a group of guys approaching sets at the same time, it will creep them out, you may open and then the wings come after.... if you want to learn club game follow my stuff...
Author:  media [ Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:32 pm ]
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I do club game alone all the time and I usually end up chatting with another guy who is doing the exact same thing. We can all spot each other, so if you need to show some social value, have a smoke or chat with the other guy flyin solo or groups of guys. Remember everyone is in a good mood for the most part at a club so they'll chat and welcome you into their group. Then, fly off to meet the chicks you want to meet. Eventually, you'll isolate your target and do your thing anyway....good luck. Also, there is a great thread about club game somewhere on here....check that out!
Author:  Roaker1 [ Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:03 pm ]
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I recently started hittin bars and love it!
At first i started going with co workers but
They would just hug the wall. Met some other guys
That are into gamin too and we just would open sets togethe or
Just wander away and go solo. From that i build up my confidence
And started going solo.

I encourage going solo once youre there u fill like
A loner so its more of a push to open. The first three
Sets up open u might be a bit choppy, but after a few beers
U get into it that u get balls of steel lol i tryd it last nite
And man did i just own the nite. I get rejected a few times but
Brushed it off and kept going. From there i was getting hugs
From grls to havin one touch my ass to number closing.
:)
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