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Author:  Dr. Spargenator [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:10 pm ]
Post subject:  When you smile at a girl, what kind of smile do you use?
Ok. So if I pass a girl and we both make eye contact and I smile at her, how should I smile? Should I smile playfully? Or smile like she's of lower value than me? Or just smile to show confidence? How does it help you when you smile at a girl? Does it show interest or just display confidence or something? Thanks in advance.
Author:  poeticlyskuac [ Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:56 am ]
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I personally believe in a genuine smile, this means your smile can be seen in the eyes, a relaxed jaw with parted lips. However, this is within my personal personality. If a smile isn't congruent it won't be genuine, it'll be forced this will make you look unconfident and reflect poorly on you.

Everything is about congruency, it's about you being sure of yourself. Congruency shows confidence. If you smirk and that is a part of your personality than smirk, if you smile than smile, if you don't smile, I'd recommend other flirting signals like a brow flash(eye brow raise) or winking.

To me the body language during the smile is really what changes the value of the smile.

True Smiles are a sign of confidence(though many may not agree with me). The reason they show confidence is they show comfort. One big difference between alphas and betas is Alphas chemically (dopamine) and literally have more fun and stress less. Betas are simply far more stressed (anxious behaviors, and contains a stress chemical), and have less fun. This is based off of a study, not myth.

True smiles help create the chemical that makes you happy, if you are having a bad day and force a smile(bite a pencil) for a few minutes you may not feel amazing but it should make you feel better.

The type of smile you grant her depends on the moment, everything is about the situation. If a cute woman trips the smile may be of humor, if a woman is sad you may want to give her a submissive smile. The one true thing about every smile is it should be both congruent and confident.

Your body language as a whole delivers a message, I'm friendly and nonthreatening but confident. I'm confident and happy. I'm only smiling because I'm not confident. Each part of your body language helps deliver a message, your body language surrounding your smile is just as important as the smile itself. In fact the body language surrounding the smile helps define the smile.

Here is a video I did on my Alpha Video Series on Smiling(this post has some different details than the video):
Author:  joshd9124 [ Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:39 am ]
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I agree with the guy above me it doesn't feel natural for me to give a full blown smile so I just give a slight smirk.
Author:  Corey [ Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:18 am ]
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Just a small smile....nothing cheesy

PS: Isn't it fucked up that we have links on the internet about how to fucking smile? Seriously.....thats just...wrong.
Author:  PatrickAnanda [ Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:19 am ]
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Ok. So if I pass a girl and we both make eye contact and I smile at her, how should I smile? Should I smile playfully? Or smile like she's of lower value than me? Or just smile to show confidence? How does it help you when you smile at a girl? Does it show interest or just display confidence or something? Thanks in advance.
Seriously?

Just smile at her. A genuine, happy smile. Why would it be anything else? If she is making eye contact with you for more than a second, she already wants you, end of story. Why complicate things and ruin what you already have?

GUYS, STOP OVERTHINKING, STOP OVERGAMING, STOP SHOOTING YOURSELVES IN THE FOOT.

Being genuine, being a man who is attracted to women is a man who will be attractive to women, PERIOD.

Just relax and smile at her, but you better go and talk to her after that. Life is a game and you should enjoy playing it.

Love and lots of it
Mack
Author:  clearspeak [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:31 am ]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smile#Duchenne_smiling
Author:  poeticlyskuac [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:07 am ]
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Ok. So if I pass a girl and we both make eye contact and I smile at her, how should I smile? Should I smile playfully? Or smile like she's of lower value than me? Or just smile to show confidence? How does it help you when you smile at a girl? Does it show interest or just display confidence or something? Thanks in advance.
Seriously?

Just smile at her. A genuine, happy smile. Why would it be anything else? If she is making eye contact with you for more than a second, she already wants you, end of story. Why complicate things and ruin what you already have?

GUYS, STOP OVERTHINKING, STOP OVERGAMING, STOP SHOOTING YOURSELVES IN THE FOOT.

Being genuine, being a man who is attracted to women is a man who will be attractive to women, PERIOD.

Just relax and smile at her, but you better go and talk to her after that. Life is a game and you should enjoy playing it.

Love and lots of it
Mack

Nice! Well Put...
Author:  poeticlyskuac [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:31 am ]
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Just a small smile....nothing cheesy

PS: Isn't it fucked up that we have links on the internet about how to fucking smile? Seriously.....thats just...wrong.
Well that smile video was a part of my alpha video series, I hate the argument about smiling not being a sign of alpha or confidence so I added a section. I figured it fell with in the realm of the question so I added it in. Everything is about context. The video fit in perfectly with the question and the series.

What's really fucked up to me is there is an argument against smiling, or that smiling shows a lack of confidence. People seem to be incredibly stupid about smiling, there really is a science to it, you don't give a woman who just lost her husband the same smile as you would to your friend who just fell. One has too much energy for the situation.

Charismatic people use the right smile at the right time, they understand (even if it is just subconsciously) the power of a smile. It is sad that people seem to forget that smiling is just plain fun. I have had to come to the defense of the smile several times on this forum and it is just getting annoying that their is a stigma with smiling.
Author:  Water Wizard [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:20 am ]
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Ok. So if I pass a girl and we both make eye contact and I smile at her, how should I smile? Should I smile playfully? Or smile like she's of lower value than me? Or just smile to show confidence? How does it help you when you smile at a girl? Does it show interest or just display confidence or something? Thanks in advance.
Seriously?

Just smile at her. A genuine, happy smile. Why would it be anything else? If she is making eye contact with you for more than a second, she already wants you, end of story. Why complicate things and ruin what you already have?

GUYS, STOP OVERTHINKING, STOP OVERGAMING, STOP SHOOTING YOURSELVES IN THE FOOT.

Being genuine, being a man who is attracted to women is a man who will be attractive to women, PERIOD.

Just relax and smile at her, but you better go and talk to her after that. Life is a game and you should enjoy playing it.

Love and lots of it
Mack
Come on Mack, you're underthinking. If OP had to create a post about this, that's a strong indication that he's unsure about it. If he's unsure about it, what should he do, do whatever is "obvious". Like do whatever he's been doing the last few decades? The reason why most people are posting on this forum is because this stuff is unintuitive and they and because of that, they need to learn it, they need to think about it.



@ poeticlyskuac:

Good posts man, liked your youtube seriest as well.

People do seem to forget that smiling is producing a vibe that people, girls included, graviate to, and that it's showing that one is comfortable with themselves in that particular environment, which is a indicator of confidence. People seem so obsessed with being the alpha male on these boards, whadda they think, the leader of a tribe is gonna be constantly on guard and ready to pounce at everyone? Reality check, if the leader is a total a-hole they will overthrow him, the leader has got to make his subordinates feel somewhat at ease with him in charge, and he's gonna be happy for being at the top.
Author:  Water Wizard [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:18 am ]
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btw, OP, don't smile like she's of lower value unless it's in a VERY playful manner in a VERY specific circumstance. Not only is it a dick move, it's a indicator of insecurity(would a truly confident guy give a damn that's he better? No! He's so used to the idea that he's the boss he doesn't give a damn about being better than someone else, he's comfortable with himself)

It might be hard to figure out which type of smile is best, but you want to choose it based on the circumstances, and ideally you want to be as expressive as possible. If you're not sure what smile to use, just make it a happy one.
Author:  poeticlyskuac [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:35 pm ]
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Ok. So if I pass a girl and we both make eye contact and I smile at her, how should I smile? Should I smile playfully? Or smile like she's of lower value than me? Or just smile to show confidence? How does it help you when you smile at a girl? Does it show interest or just display confidence or something? Thanks in advance.
Seriously?

Just smile at her. A genuine, happy smile. Why would it be anything else? If she is making eye contact with you for more than a second, she already wants you, end of story. Why complicate things and ruin what you already have?

GUYS, STOP OVERTHINKING, STOP OVERGAMING, STOP SHOOTING YOURSELVES IN THE FOOT.

Being genuine, being a man who is attracted to women is a man who will be attractive to women, PERIOD.

Just relax and smile at her, but you better go and talk to her after that. Life is a game and you should enjoy playing it.

Love and lots of it
Mack
Come on Mack, you're underthinking. If OP had to create a post about this, that's a strong indication that he's unsure about it. If he's unsure about it, what should he do, do whatever is "obvious". Like do whatever he's been doing the last few decades? The reason why most people are posting on this forum is because this stuff is unintuitive and they and because of that, they need to learn it, they need to think about it.



@ poeticlyskuac:

Good posts man, liked your youtube seriest as well.

People do seem to forget that smiling is producing a vibe that people, girls included, graviate to, and that it's showing that one is comfortable with themselves in that particular environment, which is a indicator of confidence. People seem so obsessed with being the alpha male on these boards, whadda they think, the leader of a tribe is gonna be constantly on guard and ready to pounce at everyone? Reality check, if the leader is a total a-hole they will overthrow him, the leader has got to make his subordinates feel somewhat at ease with him in charge, and he's gonna be happy for being at the top.
Thank you Sir! I appreciate the love. I agree completely. Smiling is huge in courtship and can do so much for the woman. Smiling makes you appear far more attractive, I just don't understand these guys and having issue with a huge attraction and seduction asset like smiling.

I hate the word Alpha man, but everyone seems to only want to say it. I prefer the word confidence, being confident is key, being dominant doesn't always get you laid. I've come across some dominant alphas and they have their moments but most of them aren't well liked.

I am a manager at a grocery store, when I was young I managed like a dictator due to my previous construction experience. I was very direct and this some times came across negatively(a lot of times), when I switched my style to more of a please and thank you and even just fun more people worked hard for me. Now I make everyone work harder than the rest of the managers and I'm still the favorite manager. I smile a lot and have fun, they have fun while working for me, which makes it easier to do everything.

You learn as a leader the more you do for others the more others will do for you. My employees would go out of their way for me, not every boss can say that about their employees.

Smiling is essential to my success as a manager and I highly recommend everyone realize the power of it.
Author:  PatrickAnanda [ Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: When you smile at a girl, what kind of smile do you use?
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Ok. So if I pass a girl and we both make eye contact and I smile at her, how should I smile? Should I smile playfully? Or smile like she's of lower value than me? Or just smile to show confidence? How does it help you when you smile at a girl? Does it show interest or just display confidence or something? Thanks in advance.
Seriously?

Just smile at her. A genuine, happy smile. Why would it be anything else? If she is making eye contact with you for more than a second, she already wants you, end of story. Why complicate things and ruin what you already have?

GUYS, STOP OVERTHINKING, STOP OVERGAMING, STOP SHOOTING YOURSELVES IN THE FOOT.

Being genuine, being a man who is attracted to women is a man who will be attractive to women, PERIOD.

Just relax and smile at her, but you better go and talk to her after that. Life is a game and you should enjoy playing it.

Love and lots of it
Mack
Come on Mack, you're underthinking. If OP had to create a post about this, that's a strong indication that he's unsure about it. If he's unsure about it, what should he do, do whatever is "obvious". Like do whatever he's been doing the last few decades? The reason why most people are posting on this forum is because this stuff is unintuitive and they and because of that, they need to learn it, they need to think about it.
No. That OP had to create a post on smiling is a strong indication that the community is going down the drain. OP, If you are reading this, understand that you are by no means the focus of my frustrations, your thread is merely an outlet, one of many. By responding the way I did, I was hoping to spare you the long months of achieving nothing.

Understand: In the old community, when a newbie would ask a question, the answer would inevitably be: GO try it 20 times and then come back and tell us about it.

Yes my friend, a smile is intuitive. What do you want me to tell you? OP, you need to curve your upper lip at a specifically 62.8 degree angle. Studies show that it is the perfect smile to attract a mate. Be careful tho, if you smile at a 62.9 degree angle, it signal that you have a small penis. Beware of this common mistake... Like come on guys!

You see a girl, look her in the eye, she looks at you, relax and smile. You should always be smiling anyway, life is a beautiful adventure, studded with wonderful women. What is there to not smile about? Why bother yourself with such nonsense as trying to appear high value. The thing your buddies arnt telling you is that the act of TRYING to APPEAR high value inevitably MAKES you low value.

I make this offer to everyone I feel deserves help. I am busy coaching, but if you PM me and keep in touch, I promise to do my best to help you every step of the way.

love and lots of it
Mack
Author:  On A Rampage [ Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:34 am ]
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Completely agree Mack,

I don't think wandering how to smile is actually the true problem. The fact that your wandering how to smile indicates that your unsure about yourself. Your not confident. You probably don't enjoy your own company.

The first thing I ask people is, 'Can you sit in a room with no T.V, computer, phone, NOTHING. Just yourself. Can you sit there and pass the time for an hour and enjoy it?'

If you can't sit down and enjoy your own company and I mean actually LOVE being with yourself then your already at a huge disadvantage to becoming alpha. This is what alpha is all about. Once you can do this and love yourself for who you are then everything else will just follow. You won't be worrying about how you look, how to smile or anything else. You will be comfortable in any environment you're in, thus becoming alpha.

If I were you OP I would start doing some soul searching. Once you love yourself for who you are, the rest will naturally follow. ;)
Author:  poeticlyskuac [ Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:28 am ]
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No. That OP had to create a post on smiling is a strong indication that the community is going down the drain. OP, If you are reading this, understand that you are by no means the focus of my frustrations, your thread is merely an outlet, one of many. By responding the way I did, I was hoping to spare you the long months of achieving nothing.

Understand: In the old community, when a newbie would ask a question, the answer would inevitably be: GO try it 20 times and then come back and tell us about it.

Yes my friend, a smile is intuitive. What do you want me to tell you? OP, you need to curve your upper lip at a specifically 62.8 degree angle. Studies show that it is the perfect smile to attract a mate. Be careful tho, if you smile at a 62.9 degree angle, it signal that you have a small penis. Beware of this common mistake... Like come on guys!

You see a girl, look her in the eye, she looks at you, relax and smile. You should always be smiling anyway, life is a beautiful adventure, studded with wonderful women. What is there to not smile about? Why bother yourself with such nonsense as trying to appear high value. The thing your buddies arnt telling you is that the act of TRYING to APPEAR high value inevitably MAKES you low value.

I make this offer to everyone I feel deserves help. I am busy coaching, but if you PM me and keep in touch, I promise to do my best to help you every step of the way.

love and lots of it
Mack

LOL The community has always been like this man, it floods with newbies, they all learn then new newbies come in, it's a cycle. I've been around here off and on for 5 years, dumb questions flood in, then they get answered. Don't be too aggressive but realize this happens it's not new. Help the new guys, this means not cutting out steps, we both know is problem is far below his actual smile.

Your goal isn't to appear high value but to learn to show confident behaviors which really means just learning good posture and to stand like you are proud of who you are. Not too difficult as complicated as most people make it focusing on good habits helps keep you feeling good (how you stand is how you feel (confident, unconfident, or any other).

Nice advice Rampage! I completely agree. If you can't be left alone with your thoughts you need to change how you think.
Author:  Henry.Faith [ Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: When you smile at a girl, what kind of smile do you use?
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Ok. So if I pass a girl and we both make eye contact and I smile at her, how should I smile? Should I smile playfully? Or smile like she's of lower value than me? Or just smile to show confidence? How does it help you when you smile at a girl? Does it show interest or just display confidence or something? Thanks in advance.
The smile is in the eyes. I widen my eyes by raising my eyebrows and because my teeth are kind of bad I give a closed lip smile and only raise one of cheeks as a smile.

I'm reluctant to look in the mirror too often, but we are all self-conscious at first; practice your smile in the mirror. You will see the smile is in the eyes.
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