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| Author: | Da Vinci 22 [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:46 am ] |
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Hey guys, Da Vinci 22 here. I've been looking through the threads on natural game and I've realised something, don't know if this revelation has been posted or touched on in the threads but I'm goin to write about it anyway, and it's two words..... SERATONIN and DOPHAMINE. These are chemicals that are created in our brain which affects our mood, in fact they boost it and has been nicknamed the 'happy' chemical. Now we all know about inner game and that we should be doing pick when in our best mood and state possible, however lm guessing everyone has their shite days with shite mood. So what I realised is that if we understood SERATONIN and DOPHAMINE, then we'd realise that it is one if not the main factor to a great mood and great state! Think about it, if we as pick up artists have high SERATONIN and DOPHAMINE levels, that means a better mood and state, which means more results in the field! These chemicals which are released in the brain givers us a more positive state, so if we're sarging in this state, then we'd be unstoppable. I'm betting everyone reading his. An think of a time when they knew being more positive would yield more results, I low I do. So there you have it. There are a range of ways to increase SERATONIN and DOPHAMINE levels form natural to supplements, but starting natural is the best way to go I think. Some ways are foods like bananas, strawberrys which allow SERATONIN and DOPHAMINE to be released. There is also exercise (20-30 mins cardio) and exposure to sunlight (yeah that's right). Best thing to do is research this yourself, there's millions of words written on increasing SERATONIN and DOPHAMNINE levels, loads of articles and scientific research done. I'm practicing this myself and I'll be posting field reports in response, till then I'd love to hear your guys take on this. Much love Da Vinci 22 |
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| Author: | poeticlyskuac [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:54 am ] |
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I indirectly wrote about it in my Body Language thread somewhere, maybe it was my Being the Man thread. I talk about stress and the chemicals involved, how they are a sign of a beta male according to two different studies. I also talked about how alpha males have a higher dopamine level. I came to the conclusion it's best to have fun and enjoy a stress free attitude but I certainly never really thought of it from the stand point of creating the chemicals and using it to create an ongoing mood. Laughter is a good way to maintain high dopamine levels watching movies and shows that make you laugh will help you maintain a good mood. I am all about laughter, I laugh more than most people. Fun seems to come first with me(found out according to color code personality test it's my core motivation lol). This is a very interesting thread and concept I like it. |
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| Author: | MrHolland [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:18 am ] |
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Serotonin* , Dopamine* Neurotransmitters (NT) have the power to alter our mood drastically, especially ST and DA. Balanced levels of these NT's are needed to have a "healthy mind". I don't wholly agree that they are the keys to inner game, however I do like idea! However, it depends what YOU mean by inner game? Of course happiness and pleasure drastically help, but I'm not sure they are the keys. Im not trying to shill you, i just want expansion on the idea. |
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| Author: | Da Vinci 22 [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:36 am ] |
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Hey guys Da Vinci 22 here. Thanks for the feedback, I'm loving learning!!!  I'm going out into the field today in a bit (day game) and I'm going to be increasing my SERATONIN and DOPHAMINE levels (got a load if strawberries in the fridge lol), so I'll be posting my results when I get back, it will be in the field report section soon. Till then.... Much Love Da Vinci 22 |
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| Author: | Bedtime Brawler [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:33 am ] |
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I've had quite a bit of experience with researching and experimenting the effects of these neurotransmitters, out of my own curiosity. Serotonin is linked to cognition and mood, joyfulness / melancholy etc. Dopamine is responsible for motivation and feelings of reward. It is essentially the chemical that drives all of our waking actions and pursuits; particularly relevant in game. Dopamine is one of the leading factors in the chasing and acquisition of sex. I'd say from my own experience, promotion of serotonin makes you more acutely emotional and prone to mood-swings, dampens your sense of humour and lowers your libido. All of these effects could be so minor as to be imperceptible to most people, but I don't think it's worth consistently messing with this aspect of your brain chemistry. By that token, I'd also argue that people suffering from depression ought to seek out natural ways to restore their mental health, if possible, (be it through CBT or alternative therapy, lifestyle changes, meditation etc.) as opposed to anti-depressants which, cumulatively, are essentially neurotoxic. To promote dopamine naturally seems to be more worthwhile as, like I said, it is what drives our willingness and ability to take action. Be careful as to what your spend it on though, as dopamine is the thing gets you addicted. Sex, gambling, cocaine, World of Warcraft, McDonald's, porn, chocolate, crystal meth... It's all dopamine! Make it work to your advantage by exercising willpower and conditioning yourself with good habits. |
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| Author: | chrish [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:59 am ] |
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umm...nice try. but I'm not sure this is appropriate discussion when we're ultimately trying to get dick to meet pussy. Sure these chemicals ultimately reflect out states, high low & so on, but you don't need to be in a high state to get the girl you want; you simply have to be in her state and vibe with her there. then you can lead her state to whatever you want it to be. But that little fact is pure outer game. One of the true keys that I've found in terms of inner game is to realize that you don't need to be in any state to game properly, and that you KNOW that you know what to do once you have the girl in front of you. Knowledge Dropped Tone* |
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| Author: | Da Vinci 22 [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:29 pm ] |
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Cheers, appreciate your input mate, and I guess the state your talking about is only achievable through practice, so everyone has to start somwhere and make rationalisations about something's, being a pua is a journey more than anything. But I can relate to this state that your talking about, cheers  Da Vinci 22 |
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| Author: | poeticlyskuac [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:49 pm ] |
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Quote: umm...nice try. but I'm not sure this is appropriate discussion when we're ultimately trying to get dick to meet pussy. Sure these chemicals ultimately reflect out states, high low & so on, but you don't need to be in a high state to get the girl you want; you simply have to be in her state and vibe with her there. then you can lead her state to whatever you want it to be.
But that little fact is pure outer game. One of the true keys that I've found in terms of inner game is to realize that you don't need to be in any state to game properly, and that you KNOW that you know what to do once you have the girl in front of you. Knowledge Dropped Tone* Nice Try on belittling but you are so far off track it's disappointing. Our behavior and our chemical levels are linked(with the exception of the sociopath). If you understand chemicals and how you can literally read someone based off of their chemical output level you'd understand that chemicals vastly change our behavior. You can tell a lot about someones chemical levels based off their behaviors. You can indirectly tell a lot of someone's chemical output based off their body language. You can tell where a person lies for confidence and their status in society based off of their chemical output and body language. You won't be perfect but you can certainly spot a high dopamine low stress person by behaviors. Your lower dopamine levels will effect your behavior to the point where you will enjoy a beta classification. High Glucocorticoids mean you are beta, it's science not some made up bull shit. So if you increase your dopamine level and have more fun(whether that means not stressing) you are looking more alpha. In fact you are being more alpha when you have fun scientifically speaking(high dopamine levels are signs of alpha). Yeah, while you can game while you are high energy or low energy, your chemical levels as far as dopamines should be high and glucocorticoids should be low regardless of your energy level. So I agree with the type of point you were trying to get across you can game girls in any mood or at any energy level but you need certain chemical levels to come across as good mate believe it or not. |
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| Author: | Da Vinci 22 [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:27 am ] |
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Belittling??? Mate why would I try belittling someone I hardly know, I wouldn't gain anything doing it lol. But I like the info, we are on the same page. Where do you get your info from??? Da Vinci 22 |
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| Author: | chrish [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:34 am ] |
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Quote: Belittling??? Mate why would I try belittling someone I hardly know, I wouldn't gain anything doing it lol. But I like the info, we are on the same page. Where do you get your info from???
He's talking about meDa Vinci 22 His views are right, and I am a sociopath 
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| Author: | poeticlyskuac [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:37 am ] |
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Quote: Belittling??? Mate why would I try belittling someone I hardly know, I wouldn't gain anything doing it lol. But I like the info, we are on the same page. Where do you get your info from???
Chrish is right I wasn't talking to you. I thought his point was a bit far off base, confidence draws from your physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, and the relationships you have. So you need confidence on every level including a chemical level.Da Vinci 22 Stress Portrait of a killer has a great summation of Robert Sapolsky and how I got started with my thoughts on Alpha. I highly recommend watching it but if you read more into stress and everything you realize his ideals holds some value at every level because in nature the alpha enjoys the most(in nature this is sex) and stresses the least. His books is also very good and I do recommend it as well. |
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| Author: | Da Vinci 22 [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:00 pm ] |
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Lol got a bit mixed up, still new to the forum. Thanks for the input mate. Da Vinci 22 |
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| Author: | debovnik [ Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:13 am ] |
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you increase dopamine by vibing and connecting to others if you can vibe and connect, you'll get a good state rush that will help you talk to people |
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