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Author:  Lucky69 [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:40 am ]
Post subject:  Confidence vs Arrogance.

What is the difference between Confidence and Arrogance?

For days I have had countless sleepless night pondering upon this question. And now that I have come to a conclusion, I will spare you all the suffering by informing you all about my findings.

But before I do that, some of you may be wondering why this is important and what this has to do with pick up. Though moral standards and code of conduct may differ from person to person, one fact remains true to all, you are what you are today because of what you have experienced in life so far.

So without a further ado:

Arrogance: How many times have you heard the saying, "Fake it til you make it." Personally I have heard this term more times than I can account for. You can relate this saying to the term 'arrogance'. Arrogance comes off when one is trying to be confident but isn't quite there yet because he is not congruent with the vibe he is trying to give off. So basically, this person is trying to gain the acknowledgement of others.

Confidence: Now this term is very vague but there is two main types, situational and core confidence. The definition of these terms is something that is known throughout the community. However just in case someone is not familiar with these terms I will present a short explanation of these terms.

Situational- If someone is good at basketball, they will be confident when they are playing basketball. This is something everyone has, for everyone is good at something. The difference is some people find this earlier in life than others.

Core- This is a quality only a few % of mankind has an abundance of. Core confidence is like a seed. Some people are born with a bigger seed than others but does not variate too much in the earlier stages of Life. Additionally, depending how you nurture that seed even a smaller seed can one day grow to be a great fruit bearing tree. Maybe even one day overshadowing the other trees. Remember, people with an abundant amount of core confidence does not need the acknowledgement of others because he acknowledges himself.

Why is this information important?
Because understanding and accepting is the first stage.

What does this have to do with pickup?
A wise man once said, "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man how to fish and he will eat his entire life."

And I will end this with a few quotes that are dear to my heart.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.” - Albert Einstein
Through this quote I hope you all find your own path and do not let others put you down.

“I know it seems hard sometimes but remember one thing. Through every dark night, theres a bright day after that. So no matter how hard it get, stick your chest out, keep ya head up.... and handle it.” -Tupac Shakur

Author:  pumpington [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:49 am ]
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arrogance:
1.The act or habit of arrogating, or making undue claims in an overbearing manner; that species of pride which consists in exorbitant claims of rank, dignity, estimation, or power, or which exalts the worth or importance of the person to an undue degree; proud contempt of others; lordliness; haughtiness; self-assumption; presumption. Closely related to the act of arrogating.

confidence:
1.Self-assurance.
2.Expression or feeling of certainty.
3.The quality of trusting.
4.Information held in secret.

(#2 being most important for confidence here as it is the definition that relates the most to pickup)


being certain of yourself (core confidence), or being certain of a situation (situational confidence), have little to do with having a superiority complex and more to do with simply being certain, someone can be completely sure and believe in themselves 100% without thinking they are better or worse for being certain, where as if you are arrogant it is about being better, if someone goes agaisn't you, you have to put them down or prove you are the best, you can be confident and arrogant at the same time, you can also be arrogant and unconfident at the same time, they are really not tied together all that much

the whole ego thing (in the tolle sense) is an interesting concept, alot of guys try really hard to prove they are right all the time, or defend themselves or their opinions, really there is no need, if you are confident in yourself just voicing your opinion in the first place is enough, because you believe in yourself and don't need others to believe in you, how ever for alot of guys the ego steps in and you have to be right and need to defend your opinion or attack those that would dis-agree with your point of view, when really you are not being attacked in the first place so there is no need to be defensive, I like that you brought this post up, possibly can make for a good discussion

I believe Ezo wrote a post on frame control a while back that got into this a bit

Author:  poeticlyskuac [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:19 am ]
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Self-Assurance and Expression of Certainty are quite similar but I consider confidence certainty, self-assurance, self-love, and happiness in your life direction. Confidence is not just self-assurance, it is also self-love. It is about your happiness with your place in life. I've met fools(naturals) that worked shitty ass jobs with really no future but they got more pussy than the best pick up artists I've ever come across. They were just happy with who they are and where their life was, plus the rest.

I love the post. Confidence is so much but I agree that some folks have situational confidence. Mine was at a pool table, I have a swagger at a pool table. Now I have learned to carry that confidence that swagger every where.

Confidence is such a difficult thing to attain because it requires so much. Spiritual, mental, physical, and emotional balance. I don't know many folks that gain all of that. Emotion alone is enough to control than you add mental, physical, and spiritual and it is rough. Plus you need confident relationships and the natural ability to connect with folks.

Most people will just never gain confidence because it does require work. It does come to some of us (you can gain just confidence with women), but core confidence isn't easy.

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